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Lou's request for dialog-ptewpstn? rayww

Posted by Lou Pilder on February 18, 2009, at 6:27:27

In reply to Re: God help me with my attitude Jay_Bravest_Face, posted by rayww on October 18, 2008, at 10:17:41

> > >
> > > Is it just me or does it seem like most people in organized religions care more about proving their own particular doctrines than loving God and loving others like the Bible tells us to do?
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> > > Shouldn't all churches (no matter the denomination) be the one place where you truly are welcomed with an open heart?
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> >
> > Yes, exactly! Even the Pope has addressed this. (Pope John Paul II). Many people go to church for 'selfish' reasons. The 'bless me' clubs, where they are trying to rank up points, and 'cleanse' themselves of 'sin'...for a week anyways. That is why I believe your/our relationship with God should be very personal, sacred, and watch out for these selfish 'pretend' Christians.
> >
> > Jay
>
> People are always complaining about the churches, but do they ever take a real good look? There are opinions all over the place, and a church for everyone somewhere, but even within church most people are still searching and questioning. When your question becomes a prayer to God, you may be surprised at the answers you will find. http://mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/
> Even if a church could be perfect, the people would not be. Church is for people who need. You need to have a problem first, and then you will need church. Need meets need. When you begin your search, include all. Here's the story of Glenn Beck's search for a religion. http://www.meridianmagazine.com/youtube/080619glenn.html
>
> He thought organized religion was all about manipulation, power, and money. So, not trusting, they went on a church tour, attending everything from Atheist to Mormon. Things to watch for: happy faces of children, warm feeling. You can trust the children. And I think you can learn how to identify a genuinely happy face from the phony.
> ray

ray,
Would you be willing to have a discussion here concerning what you have posted here? In particular, but not limited to, the content in an offered link in your post? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to present my point of view from a Jewish perspective.
Lou

 

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