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Re: Lou's reply to Sigismund-- Lou Pilder

Posted by Dena on September 9, 2008, at 22:06:37

In reply to Lou's reply to Sigismund--, posted by Lou Pilder on September 9, 2008, at 19:58:43

Lou --

wondering, is "the place" He was going to perhaps the place of Atonement...? That He was going to make a way for them (& all of us) to return to God?

I see what happened in the garden as more of a turning, than of a falling ~ that the woman (isha) turned from God to the man, in order to get her significance/purpose/identity. I see that the man (ish) turned from God to the ground (the work of his hands) in order to find his significance/purpose/identity ... we continue to do the same to this very day, but I see that that neither other relationships nor our work can give to us what only God can give to us (significance/purpose/identity).

I see that the Anointed One came to make a way for us to REturn back to God ... not to bring us into any religion, but to call us out of religion(s) and to Himself.

I see that He says "follow Me" (not "follow the rules of a religion"), and He is the Way, He is the Truth, and He is the Life ... who brings us back to God.

I see that He is the One who will leave the 99, and go after the one which is lost [same word for "destroyed" in Greek], seeking 'til He finds them.


I no longer see that the message is: "God's mad, you're bad, try harder."

I see that God saw we were dying of a terminal disease, and He Himself became the cure to save us from what was killing us.

What kind of radical love is that, no?

Shalom, Dena

"The unanswered questions aren't nearly as dangerous as the
unquestioned answers."

"We turn to God for help when our foundations are shaking only to
learn that it is God shaking them." - Charles West

"Naked is having no clothes on. Nekkid is having no clothes on and
being up to something."

"Our truth, when it becomes the ONLY truth, ceases to be truth."

"While we're not fearful of tasting new things, we don't necessarily
swallow all that we taste."
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