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Re: Apocalypse bulldog2

Posted by fayeroe on May 26, 2008, at 9:38:34

In reply to Re: Apocalypse, posted by bulldog2 on May 25, 2008, at 16:28:32

> > > Recently a minister who endorsed McCain said that God put Hitler on earth to kill the Jews so the survivors would found Israel.
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> > Yes, that was in the papers here.
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> > (One way of looking at it could be that if the end of times is coming then Israel has to exist in control of Jerusalem and that's a very good thing because we want the end of the world to happen??)
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> > I think an idea in "Black Mass" is that when a secular ideology loses sight of its religious roots it is in danger of becoming a religion itself.
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> > (It's not an argument for or against religion.) It's quite a scarey book in a way.
> The implications can be a bit depressing in a way. If his assumptions are correct that this world is collective insanity (which does appear obvious most of the time) man's long term outlook is quite frightening.

"Did Jesus really intend that wars should be fought in his name?"

Bulldog, when Bush declared war on Iraq, my sisters took it to mean that it was right and just and God was endorsing it. I had to listen (or tune out) to endless lectures about their certainity that we were going to bring religious enlightenment to that region.

After 6 years of it, their beliefs have shifted ever so much and now they see our occupation as being aimless and fueled by "ungodly" beliefs. It helped them to live through two tours by my SIL as that brought it to their doorstep. Before Josh went to Iraq, one sister told me that if she didn't think about it, it wasn't there. She prayed about it.

I do not post this with the intention of being "against" aany religion , as I think that the occupation is much bigger than any minister who goes around saying outlandish things about different beliefs.

So count me in as not believing that Jesus wants us at war. Oh, count my sisters in also~




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