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Lou's reply to SteelyDan-inqutn SteelyDan

Posted by Lou Pilder on April 25, 2008, at 12:43:02

In reply to Re: Lou's request to SteelyDan for identification-acpt Lou Pilder, posted by SteelyDan on April 25, 2008, at 10:17:14

> > > >
> > >
> > > > A. what does it mean, in your belief , as to {believe in Jesus}?
> > > > B.Are the children that were murdered that did not believe in Jesus, according to what you believe, in hell?
> > > > Lou
> > > >
> > >
> > > A. To believe (accept) that he is the Messiah, the Son of God, that He died on the cross for our sins. He is The promised son of Abraham, and a descendent of King David. He is the Great IAM!
> > >
> > > B. I believe there is an 'age of accountability' which is different for each individual according to our just God. The murdered children i believe go to heaven.
> > >
> > > -Dan
> >
> > Dan,
> > You wrote,[...to believe (accept) that he is...]
> > The generally accepted meaning, IMO, of the grammatical structure of the statement in question is that {believe} is being equated with {accept}.
> > If that is what you are wanting to mean, then I am unsure as to what connotation you are wanting to assign to the word {accept}.
> > Some generally accepted meanings of the word {accept} are:
> > A. to receive officially
> > B. to receive willingly
> > C. to endure without protest (this could mean IMO that the acceptance is forced, unwillingly, upon the person)
> > D. to give approval
> > E. to recognize as true
> > F. to receive favorably
> > G. others not listed
> > If you could identify as to what you are wanting the word {accept} to mean in your statement in question, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > Lou
>
> You answered your own question...A through F are excellent examples of the word and definition of 'accept'.

Dan,
You wrote,[...You answered your own question.A through F are excellent examples...].
As I read your reply to my question, which was that I was unsure as to the connotation that you are wanting to mean for the word {accept} in your statement,[...to believe (accept) that he is...], which I think that the grammatical structure could mean that {believe} and {accept} are being equated and I listed A through F.
Your reply,[...A through F...]has the grammatical structure in my opinion to mean that {C} could be one connotation that you are wanting to mean in your statement. If that is so, then I could read your statement as [...to {believe in Jesus}...] to have the potential iMO to mean:
[... to accept Jesus...]which by replacing {accept} with {C}, then the statement could read, [...to be forced unwillingly to accept Jesus...]
I do not think that that is what you are wanting to mean here, but that is how I could IMO interpret the grammatical structure of the statemnt in question due to your reply that IMO could mean that {C} is an option in the list of choices from A through F that one could use.
If you are wanting to mean that even forced belief is included, could you clarify what means are used to force one today to {believe in Jesus}?
Lou

 

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