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Re: Where does your faith come from? 64bowtie

Posted by verne on December 1, 2004, at 2:08:36

In reply to Where does your faith come from?, posted by 64bowtie on November 23, 2004, at 13:22:50

You write, "Caution: Faith is an "Inside Job", meaning it has to be something you know inside you, otherwise it belongs to someone else!"

I agree with "faith is an inside job" but it's the "has to be something you know inside you" I have a problem with.

In dying to self, and complete surrender, is there an ego left over that philosophizes and measures and "knows" what's inside itself? You can't both die to self and continue to evaluate, judge, and measure in worldly terms.

Going back to an earlier thread and idea you espoused: that faith is a tool. Nothing is a "tool" without an ego firmly engaged in the WORLD. There is nothing spiritual about a tool and faith is far from it.

This isn't semantics and can only be understood if you're "awake".

verne


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