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Re: Developing bad habits on Psycho-Babble? jay2112

Posted by SLS on November 29, 2022, at 13:42:45

In reply to Re: Developing bad habits on Psycho-Babble? SLS, posted by jay2112 on November 29, 2022, at 11:31:16

> Scott:
> Some of us, like you and I, are lucky to have, shall we say, 'liberal' minded psychiatrists, who are open to patient's suggestions. Mine has addressed this with me, and is like "..I don't do this with ANY other patient, you know Mr. Jay!!"...and maybe, you or I have a certain type of personality that is comfortable being quite assertive. I have been fired by a few psychiatrists because of this!
> But, for some, (many??) this is not the case. We HAVE to understand that. Plus, we can't diagnose by proxy. Suggestions, sure, but we are limited in that we don't quite know the interpersonal angle of what another patient is composed about via the internet. There are MANY behavioural effects of neurotransmitters (NT's), and they are NOT all universal.
> So, let's let Linkadge go where and how he wishes, and what he is comfortable with. It may take some time for him to develop more of a dynamic relationship with his pdoc.
> One area, and I know you aren't keen on, we can suggest is some alternative and complimentary treatments that even top researchers are looking into.
> IMHO, a full-on, norepinephrine approach ignores some NT's that MAY be important, including cholinergic, gaba, and some different approaches to serotonin, and as well as the cannabinoid system.
> Let's just be gentle, kind (like you are Scott...very kind, IMHO) and take our time.
> <Smiles> Jay

Well, I really don't know how to handle people who decide to interrupt my threads and lecture me, especially by people who post so assertively that antidepressants are "rubbish". This person was obviously wrong - very wrong. I don't know what would enter the mind of someone who is depressed and knows the horrors to tell others that antidepressants are "rubbish".

Sorry. As of this moment, I have little gentleness for a recidivist saboteur of others' mental health.

Jay, I haven't totally forgotten the pain and frustration, although forgetting is easy to do after attaining remission and entering a normal state of consciousness. State-specific memory probably enters the equation. Even if I have absolutely recollection of depression, that does not leave the information and recommendations I post any less valuable.

No. A Psycho-Babble member who has a 25-year history of pronouncing antidepressants to be no more effective than placebo does not curry the gentleness I show others. Like it or not, to spend so much time exploring treatments that confer little more than mild palliative relief is a dead end. No remission.

So, prior to two years ago, I was affected by severe depression and an interminable history of treatment failures. SLS was therefore in a position exactly the same as so many members of the Psycho-Babble community. So, what separates me from others? Nothing. Just striking gold.

Not everyone has found an effective treatment yet - even after decades of trying. For God's sake, how could I not recognize that? That's pretty insulting.

I have nothing better to do with my time but to help and pray for peoples' healing. I am trading with Psycho-Babble my wealth of knowledge and experience for its having helped me prevent committing suicide. Of course, I would like to return the favor, even if I can't produce ideas to help them achieve remission. If I can contribute to someone's finding a new and pleasurable life, I prefer to give more than I took. Antidepressants are not "rubbish" just because someone hasn't responded to them - YET.

I think one should take advantage of a resource. I gave a cursory review of my first 10 years of treatment failures and what I either researched or learned through conversations with some of the doctors most involved in treating difficult, TRD cases.

- Scott

Logic: SLS was in a position no different than people with the most severe course of treatament resistant of sufferers.

Some see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.




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