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Re: Vortioxetine (Brintellix-Trintellix) SLS

Posted by undopaminergic on November 20, 2021, at 13:33:15

In reply to Re: Vortioxetine (Brintellix-Trintellix) undopaminergic, posted by SLS on November 20, 2021, at 12:52:19

> > Right. And they had chloral hydrate before barbiturates!
>
> > > Chloral hydrate is not pleasant. I have taken it.
>
> > You mean it lacks recreational potential in contrast to barbiturates and benzodiazepines?
>
> > > No. It just feels almost like drinking alcohol. It felt yucky. Not pleasant for me.
>
> > Many people enjoy drinking alcohol. Do you think some may find chloral hydrate likewise pleasant?
>
> I don't know what percentage of people taking chloral hydrate, if any, find it likewise as pleasant as alcohol to dose themselves with. Do you happen to know? Did you find it pleasant when you took it? What was the amount and frequency of your chloral hydrate dosing to receive the maximal pleasant psychotropic effects?
>

I never tried chloral hydrate. I *used* to enjoy drinking certain preparations of alcohol, especially liqueur.

>
> > > The issue you brought up is the classification of medications based upon nothing.
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> > Ah, I see. That ("based on nothing") was never my intention.
>
> > > Arbitrary: Merriam-Webster
> > >
> > > 1. not planned or chosen for a particular reason An arbitrary number has been assigned to each district. : not based on reason or evidence I don't know why I chose that one; it was a completely arbitrary decision.
> > >
> > > 2. done without concern for what is fair or right Although arbitrary arrests are illegal, they continue to occur in many parts of the country.
> > >
> >
> > I think I was thinking along the lines of definition 2. Not "fair", not "right", not "legitimate", not "kosher".
>
> Can you provide me with a few examples of the arbitrary classification of drugs by the FDA?
>

Doxepin is one that I feel wasn't classified "right", ie. based on "legit" pharmacological facts. It's more an antihistamine that can be of some use to treat depression than it is an antidepressant that can be used as an antihistamine. I don't blame the FDA specifically; the drug company was at least as much to blame.

> > You seem to be disagreeing based on your definition of "arbitrary". You thought I meant something else than what I intended. Maybe "arbitrary" isn't the best choice of word -- what would *you* call it?
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> Undopaminergic:
>
> When was the last time you recognized that you had lost an argument?

Frankly, I have no idea.

However, there *is* no argument, just misunderstanding. I used the word "arbitrary" to mean something else than what it means to you. There seems to be no disagreement about the facts.

If it makes you feel better, we can agree to consider you the winner. It's just no competition to me. It's not important, I just made a comment in passing, not expecting I'd be opening a can of worms. Can we move on now?

-undopaminergic


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