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Re: Psiloscybin

Posted by linkadge on April 24, 2021, at 15:52:21

In reply to Re: Psiloscybin linkadge, posted by alexandra_k on April 23, 2021, at 23:18:08

>I think we may have different definitions of >'reputable'.

There really aren't different definitions of reputable. I'm saying the research is as sound as any research for efficacy on standard antidepressants.

>are going on about benefits of micro-dosing, >they are calling it.

We are not talking about microdosing here. We are talking about taking enough for a full psychedellic experience. This is why the drug must be administered in a controlled / monitored setting.

>undergraduate research subjects, typically, and >then other people, too...

This is not the 1960s. We are talking about standard clinical trials where people (with treatment resistant clinical depression, are carefully weighing the costs and benefits.

>Like what happens when people dream?

Yes, but plasticity (in limbic and forebrain regions of depressed patients) is impaired.


>I used to take mushrooms, yes. When they were in >season I would commonly take them over the >weekend. Did they help with depression? Well... >You sort of have to get up early to go find >them. They gave me a reason to get up early on a >brisk day and go foraging about in the forest. >That, in itself, was likely good for my mental >health.

Nobody is saying that all treatments will work for all individuals. Ketamine, for example, is a miracle for some, but not everybody responds. Again, nobody is saying you have to take this. Also, I don't know where you get the idea that university students are being forcibly given these drugs.

>I could see that different people do different >sorts of things. Some people join a cycle club >or whatever. Maybe play hockey. I don't know. >Cafe culture.

Right, but we're talking about treating a serious, life threatening illness. Many people with depression commit suicide. For these individuals, taking a 'spin class' is not going to solve anything. There is ample evidence, at this stage, that psiloscybin (for some individuals) can have a very rapid antidepressant effect. After all, it activates certain serotonin receptors very potently. We do the same with SSRIS (in a slightly different fashion).

I also had synthasthesia... Feeling colors.

(sounds interesting to me).

>I do not regret my LSD / mushie experiences at >all. Actually. NOw that I reflect upon them. >Yeah.

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