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Re: suicidality exhaustion...

Posted by violette on September 13, 2010, at 11:17:16

In reply to Re: suicidality exhaustion... floatingbridge, posted by linkadge on September 13, 2010, at 7:59:45

This might help with awareness of why some talk about suicide and some don't:

http://www.psychsystems.net/Publications/2006/13.%20psychodynamics%20of%20bpd_Bradley_dev%20and%20psychopathology%202006.pdf

I posted some stuff about this on the psychology board. People with long-standing MI have commanalities-usually low self-worth-that are expressed in different ways.

Somone with borderline might osciliate between states of feeling ok with themself and positive to extreme self-loathing and feelings of not wanting to 'exist'. Someone who is narcissistic would live in a state of false self-and be seperated, so out of touch with the inner pain, compensating with grandiousity...but when that defense breaks down, usually after loss, the inner pain is exposed--which is so shameful, they may not tell anyone about their suicical thoughts and commit suicide. Someone with OCPD traits is likely to have 2 self states-the inner world and the outer world everyone sees..they would be less likely to expose their inner world to anyone-because their self state is to do right, abide by morals, society standards...

There are different expressions of the same concepts, low self-worth, shame, ..core issues. I think it's difficult to imagine unless you are in another's shoes. It's really sad hearing of anyone's suicidal feelings, whether they internalize it or externalize it.

 

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