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Re: MAOI Wowie! Nardil king Mickapoo

Posted by Vincent_QC on January 13, 2009, at 5:56:40

In reply to Re: MAOI Wowie! Nardil king, posted by Mickapoo on January 10, 2009, at 14:15:13

> > for protein do not and i say do not use >any WHEY isolates or ION exchange whey. dont use >any protein powders or bars period. they contain >alot of tyramine and will definatly send you >into a hypertensive crisis. i know it sucks >because its so needed to grow fast but protein >powders are out.
> ....................................................
> I'm not sure if because this is an old post this is outdated information, but I have protein shakes daily, and haven't had any negative effects whatsoever. I know this post is old, but if someone searches and finds this post, I just wanted to put in another experience!

Hi Mick !
Seem like an old post...Anyway, I have protein shakes everyday, the one with a booster in it "Six Star"...not because it's a good brand, but because it's often in discount at the drugstore...and I never had any hypertensive crisis...I use it for "diet" purpose (With Potassium supplements and salt to prevent low blood pressure...), I don't use them as a muscles I can have more than 100 grams of whey protein each day without any problems.

In fact, my blood pressure tend to be lower with protein shake. I also ask several professionnals about the question, all answer NO and don't eat whey protein with a maoi, but they was wrong...

So I think it's a "try" and see approach with the protein shake, since we are all made on the same model and our bodie react all differently...(Sorry for the english mistakes...).

I find the diet to be somewhat outdated and not very friendly... IS it suppose to make people more overstress or what?...

I respect the diet list just for the "cheese", the old ones, I eat tons of fresh mozzarella or cheedar without any problem at all. I never eat a "soup" at the restaurant since they add a lot of "suspect powder" inside like "Bovril" or everything with a false "meat" taste" inside...I avoid fava beans (DA increase), for the rest I eat all the others things on the list without any problems at all (coffee, chocolate, sausage, yogourt, sour cream...and the list goes on...).

I don't want a reply with a message saying that I play with my life please...I have my own blood pressure machine, I do a "TEST" for every item on the "avoid" list...and I tend to do only spontaneous hypertensives crisis not related to food, and just since i'm on the Parnate...on the Nardil I had a to LOW blood pressure and I never nad any hypertensive crisis from food on the Nardil, even spontaneous crisis...

So that's it...30mg/day Parnate...and last year 90mg/day Nardil without any problem at all for the food interraction.

That's only my point of view...I ask before the question here, it was one of my first post I think...because I didn't want to take any chance...but now that i'm more confident with the MAOI's in general and the fact that I have an "antidote" in a form of pill (Nefipedine), I think that I can do my own experiences and do my proper list of food to avoid.




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