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Re: nardil/ using contraindicatied products on purpose mav27

Posted by Jedi on March 18, 2008, at 11:39:09

In reply to nardil/ using contraindicatied products on purpose, posted by mav27 on March 17, 2008, at 12:26:27

Hi,
Sounds like your BP runs fairly low. Mine is borderline high without Nardil(140/80), with Nardil it runs about 132/72. My orthostatic hypotension went away fairly quickly after I started Nardil. One case report in PubMed has a woman treated successfully for hypotension with salt tablets.
Good Luck,
Jedi

References:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6693369?ordinalpos=24&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
J Clin Psychiatry. 1984 Feb;45(2):89-90.
The treatment of phenelzine-induced hypotension with salt tablets: case report.Munjack DJ.
A 24-year-old woman who met DSM-III criteria for agoraphobia with panic attacks, and who could not tolerate other medications (imipramine and propranolol), was successfully treated with phenelzine sulfate and salt tablets for the accompanying hypotension.
PMID: 6693369 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3417623?ordinalpos=12&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
J Clin Psychiatry. 1988 Sep;49(9):366-8.
Sodium chloride treatment of antidepressant-induced orthostatic hypotension.Kranzler HR, Cardoni A.
Department of Psychiatry, University of Connecticut School of Medicine, Farmington 06032.

Orthostatic hypotension, a serious, frequent side effect of antidepressant medication, can be severe enough to require cessation of medication. The authors report three cases of antidepressant-induced orthostatic hypotension treated with sodium chloride. In two of the cases, the use of sodium chloride allowed the patient to continue antidepressant treatment at a therapeutically effective dosage. The authors discuss risks and treatment of orthostatic hypotension.
PMID: 3417623 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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> I've tried everything for my depression and social phobia.. the only thing that has had any promise is Nardil but the problem i keep having is my blood pressure drops too much on it to be able to do anything but lay down most of the time. On 30mg my pressure drops from its usual 140/100 to 70/40.. it causes a lot of blackouts/fainting. My doctor and psych both say there is nothing they can do to increase my pressure and pulse to normal other than using stimulants but no one around here will have anything to do with such a thing. So i was wondering, and i did ask my psych about it but he pretty much looked at me like he would kill me if i tried it :) what abut trying to get my pressure back to normal by carfully taking something with the nardil... something like psydoephedrine or other things you arn't meant to take with it (tyramine rich food ect)... do you think it's possible if carefull enough to balance it so i can get my blood pressure and heart rate back to normal levels whilst on the nardil ?
> Or is it just way to stupid to attempt? I'm really at witts end though.


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