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Re: Biopsychosocial vs Biological Reductionism Estella

Posted by yxibow on September 2, 2006, at 13:54:27

In reply to Re: Biopsychosocial vs Biological Reductionism, posted by Estella on September 2, 2006, at 12:56:18

> We don't have very good models of any disorder on any level of analysis. I mean... There are models but they aren't particularly good. I guess people are trying to make them better. Hard to know whether you want a model on one level of explanation (so you have a model for each level of explanation) or whether you could make a model that is interlevel.

Well we have fairly good models of OCD but its not clear to me that you may have not read any of the references pointed out.

We have some, but not all models of schizophrenia, having been studied for many decades, starting with rather poor medicational approaches to more modern and humane treatment methods. Schizophrenia is one of the few neurochemical disorders that can theoretically to the best of my knowledge be seen on MRIs simply because some forms are neurodegenerative. But they can certainly be seen on SPECT/PET.

> There were social models of autism. Don't know if there are anymore (I'm thinking of the 'old' theory about parenting. Don't know whether more research has been done into social factors though).
> Seems possible that different things could be relevant to different individuals.

Its possible, but I do believe we will find, and already are starting to find genetic reasons for autism. It is the flat earth society reasoning, pardon the phraseology however, that continues to blame from fluoride in the water to nonexistant levels of methanol from aspartame for every possible cause of autism or developmental disorders because they want desperately and understandably to find a reason.

> Lets say the following are causal factors for anxiety (in the sense of being sufficient but not necessary)
> - endocrine system
> - crappy environment
> are there two kinds of anxiety (the first kind and the second kind) or is anxiety multiply realised? don't know... but taxonomy might change...

ALL anxiety whether introduced environmentally ("crappy environment" -- please dont assume what peoples environment are like or how they assimilate their surroundings or life upbringings, that is insulting) or by "a faulty endocrine system" which I assume you mean thyroidal are inherently as neurochemical as this seemingly antediluvian thread. The thoughts you bring to the table came from free will, which in turn came from your mind cogitating, which produced brain activity and neuronal firing and can be seen on an EKG and a SPECT scan.

> But it is funny that most people get to be NOS.

Do please refrain from continuing to use the word funny in your hypothesis, its not amusing to those who are on here and are diagnosed with a disorder yet to be determined. There are various DSM-IV and DSM-V disorders that are indeed NOS. They don't fit into a regular category of a DSM diagnosis, e.g. psychosis NOS. Until perhaps more is diagnosed in the term of treatment.




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