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Re: Depression,SP and insomnia, GHB/benzos btnd

Posted by Carlos C on May 31, 2004, at 11:06:50

In reply to Re: Depression,SP and insomnia, GHB/benzos splatter, posted by btnd on May 29, 2004, at 19:56:52

Some studies from GHB kit manufactures (when it was legal) show that there are two main, different reactions to a "therapuetical" dose. One causes sleep (non-depressed people) and activating (Those with clinical depression).

For me personally the correct dose of GHB is activating. I feel it's the best anti-depressant on earth. It also clears me of all anxiety while still allowing me to sleep at night.

Unfortunately those days are over since the US government and media has decided what is "good" for me.

Here's the claim about the that study;

An interesting puzzle surfaced while investigating the literature. Anecdotal evidence suggests what's called a bimodal response to GHB whereby there are two possible reactions to ingestion of it. A company supplying a GHB make-it-at-home kit, Centurion Aging Research Labs (CARL), supplies the following story. Apparently, a significant portion of their customers who purchased the GHB kit and tried the product complained that it didn't have the desired effect. Instead of giving them a pleasant, sleepy feeling, it tended to keep them up all night and didn't sedate them at all. Apparently, CARL investigated the complaints from a quality control perspective and tried to identify a flaw in manufacture, but even samples returned for analysis turned out okay. The puzzle went unanswered until one customer, who was on kit number three, called the company ask what they had changed. He stated that instead of his usual reaction to it (awake, increased alertness) he was feeling sleepy. That, of course, is the standard reaction. Representatives from CARL make a claim that there are two types of responses to GHB - one called the Euphoric GHB Response (EGR), the abnormal one, and the Somnolent GHB Response (SGR.) They discovered that those experiencing the EGR either were clinically depressed or had reason to believe that they were. If this is true, then GHB has enormous potential as a pathological detector of sorts. Anecdotal evidence also supports the idea that GHB can actually treat some symptoms as well. It would be very exciting to see some rigorous scientific studies done in this regard.

ref. http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manuscripts/_143.html


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