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Re: Larry, Zinc/Selenium/Vitamin C questions johnj

Posted by Larry Hoover on June 1, 2003, at 20:43:41

In reply to Re: Larry, Zinc/Selenium/Vitamin C questions Larry Hoover, posted by johnj on June 1, 2003, at 18:16:13

> I really don't know much about glutamate to be honest, except MSG. I know they were mentioned on Eby's website but how to know what foods they are in I am not sure.

Virtually anything that's processed by the food industry, it seems to me. Here's a partial listing:

enzyme modified (anything), anything fermented, anything protein fortified, anything ultra pasteurized, autolyzed yeast, barley malt, broth, bouillon, calcium caseinate, carrageen, flavoring, natural flavoring, gelatin, hydrolyzed oat/wheat/barley flour, hydrolyzed vegetable, hydrolyzed (anything) protein, malt extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, pectin, plant protein extract, potassium glutamate, sodium caseinate, soy protein, soy sauce, stock, textured protein, whey protein, yeast extract, yeast food.

>
> Yes, 15 mg is supposed to be more sedating, but what I feel is a pressure release from behind the forehead and I think that is directly related to the dose???? However, the lower I go I kind of start to feel more depressed.

That doesn't sound like it's helping, then.

> I was at the library today and found a book that talked about various drugs and it had temazepan as being recommended for insomnia. I would rather reduce my tranzene and add that, but I may try trazadone to see what effect it has on me.

Temazepam is marketed under the brand name Restoril (among others), because it promotes restorative sleep. If you're not waking rested, you have no idea just how important a change that can be. Temazepam promotes different stages of sleep that are responsible for this restorative component. If you want to read about that, do a search on temazepam and the phrase "sleep architecture".

> I don't need anything that adds to my insomnia that is why I am afraid of ssri's. It is hard to tell if I would benefit from paxil or not. I just hate the "try it and see" what happens approach with drugs. But, it could work great. It actually helps my friend sleep. Strange how those drugs work. Lexapro made me a zombie in one small dose.

There is no other way to know, I'm afraid.

> Thanks for everything and good to hear you have progressed to the state that you may go off disability. I sometimes think that is where I am headed (that's why the need for CBT!)

Just keep aiming towards wellness. It might be a slow road, but I think there is a road (to wellness).

> Larry, I have followed the TMG, enada thread and wonder what type of TMG should I get?

I'm not sure what you're asking. TMG is also known as anhydrous betaine, or betaine freebase. You don't want betaine hydrochloride.

>I have the tendency to get irritable so I am not sure if I should try it at all. I saw that some TMG is made from sugar beets?

The name betaine means "amine from beets". Beta is latin for beet. It's a byproduct of sugar beet processing, although there may well be other sources.

>What would you suggest would be a starting dose?

I'd start with 500 mg, though Ron Hill would probably suggest 250. Use it in the morning, in case it stimulates you. You don't want to make your insomnia worse.

> Enada I would probably go with a 2.5 mg and see what happens. Thank you
>
> johnj

I'm with you, buddy.

Lar

 

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