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where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 15:21:00

I started looking more into the US... Thinking about how you get these flocks of migrants, like locusts, being constantly herded or constantly moving around the globe. Moving from differnet to differnet to different and not making it out of the garbage lives they are trying to leave. Thinking about whether it is any different there. Thinking about whether it will be any different for me.

I guess the issue is that I am locked out of here. The people with the money and the power here do not see me or if they do they do not value me. They refuse to allow me to accomplish any of the things I want for myself. There's nothing for me, here.

So then it depends whether I can find people with money and power someplace else who will allow me to work to accomplish the things I want for myself. They aren't selfish, greedy things, after all. I'm not plotting malevolence or harms for mankind.

I see that the Ivy League schools are these tiny little pockets in bubbles within communities that are more broadly dysfunctional. Often within small towns that we like to call cities a bit removed from the big city where the gang violence and shootings and drug crimes mostly are.

I guess it's a case of how it's easier to have an intervention of someone from far away than it is to have a local intervention, sometimes. Not entirely sure why. Maybe because with local interventions there's a sense or a feeling that the need is greater than anything you can do, really. If you pick out one kid from an impoverished school who is local then there are screaming tantrums that you don't pick out more and more and more of the kids from there. There is jealousy from others. The harms can be more than the goods of a local intervention.

But beaming someone up... Picking out a kid from each state or something like that... Somehow that gets a by. Because it's too much removed of an intervention for people to be all jealous. Because the person being picked out won't be perseccuted / prosecuted overseas, either. I guess because it's about jealousy. Not understanding what they have been offered or something like that.

Some reason why I can't do Medicine here. That would give other people with similar backgrounds to me a sense of entitlement which isn't allowed by our current leaders. But if I go overseas... I'll just be viewed as yet another immigrant taking the jobs from Americans, or whatever.

I was reading about this guy who was Russian in the NY times. He passed. At 90+ years or late 80s or something. Apparently he was a physicist in Russia. He started documenting their human rights abuses. Found himself in a prison camp in Serbia or somewhere and they took back his Russian Citizenship.. Or something... Eventually he makes his way to Cornell. When he's in his 60's. Teaches Physics and Politics for a while... Gets US citizenship. Gets given back Russian. I don't know what to say.

I get the sense that the US doesn't think I'm too old. It's just that NZ doesn't value any of the lives of it's people. It never did value me. It's fully of excuses. The current excuse is I'm too old. There's always a succession of excuses about why I get to have nothing. I'm sick of listening to their lies.

I know why I have to do law.

Unintelligent people are very very taken by this idea that you do what is pre-ordained. Because it lifts the cognitive load. You do what is 'easy' or 'natural' (or you follow the money). YOu be a sheeple... Brown gets to be a baker etc. What's in a name?

Roe is renowned for Roe v Wade. My last name is Roe. Therefore I must be a lawyer. Obviously. Insofar as I am allowed to do anything at all in this sh*t hole of a money laundering nation I'm to be working as a lawyer for free.

Know what the University of Auckland lawyers did? They sent me a letter saying I should reply before the close of business the next day (by what authority?) that they needed me to pay them a retainer of $20,000 because they were worried that I would lose the case and I didn't have any money to pay court costs.

I couldn't make this sh*t up.

I pointed out that if the claims are without merit (as they have been saying -- because they are going to tell the judge they lack basic reading comprehension of the Statutes it's their job to follow)... Then they should simply not file anything at all and let the case be decided in their absense. If they think my claims need a defence (but no defence is possible, really) then they have in-house council who is paid a salary for when studnets or staff rightly see that the University is probably one of the most corrupt institutions in NZ. If she chooses to contract out then the retainer can come from her salary.

They actually seem to be suggesting that in cases where the client can't afford to pay the court costs associated with losing... THen the client should not be allowed to file the case.

This is in a context where the other Government Institutions and agengies whose job it is to uplold the laws and proseccute offenders are too underfunded to do their jobs (and often, seems to me, hire people incompetent to do teh job for which they are paid) also.

Are things better in Rhode Island?

I was watching the news... Teh shootings. The opiate overdoses. Stabbing. Angry teenage mob... Getting a sense of things... The housing in the poorer areas... Trying to get a sense of things... I appreciate being able to get a sense of things. What I'm finding isn't over-manicured.

I see that if I was raised into a poor house in Rhode Island there wouldn't be very much hope for me, likely.

I'd be applying to colleges out of state for sure.

The issue is that if you sort of think of every state as a country then you have around 50 x the opportunities that you do in this part of the world.

That's basically the idea of it.

If the odds on being accepted into a programme are around 20 per cent... And you apply to 10 programmes... It's supposed to be the gambler's fallacy that yoru overall odds are higher when you add together odds like that...

But they aren't independent. Not really...

I don't know.

I appreciate my life could be worse... But I regret so much of my life being wasted in NZ already and I still see little to no signs of anything of value, here.

People genuinely and truly believe 'might is right' in this part. People are tribal. They think the aim is to huddle in with the most powerful herd you can and insideously manipulate things in the direction you want. You need to avoid overt confict because the group en masse is more powerful than you. You need to convince the herd to follow you of their own volution because it's the easiest thing to do.

It's easier to stay home in the team of 5 million than to work a commuter job when the trains can only go at 1/2 speed because we did not upkeep the tracks...

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The main issue I have is that it does make sense that private business be allowed to manage it's own affairs. I mean... If private business is smart enough to see things worth investing in and invest in them and get a good outcome then for the love of God let them get on with it.

Mostly here we have an awful squabble when people simply can't tell or don't know it when they see it. That's the thing... You don't necessariliy need to be a person who comes up with a good idea or a good product or whatever... But you need to be able to identify one when you see one and be able to mobilise the funds that are needed so the person with the vision can realise that. And that's what we don't have here. People with power and ability to do that.

So... It makes sense that private Universities should be able to pick and choose what studnets they want. Surprise, the ones in that position require extensive essays they plan to actually read and qualitatively *ss*s people on their merits. Whether they do or not -- that's an idea (an ideal) worth believing in -- right?? As opposed to our ideal where the kids who have parents who are doctors get to do it and other arbitrary and nonsense things like that.

Of course they say 'it's not arbitrary nonsense. Fact is we have nothing to teach you because we choose to employ people who don' tknow anythig and can't teach anything'. Yes. Adding incompetence to incompetence.... I mean to say that there's a reason why public universities that rely on public handouts (because they lack the ability to privately fund) don't get to make decisions. That's why they are bonded by statute to do this, that, and the other thing. Any time they can get enough (clean money, not laundered) student fees from international sources or from local sources to go public... THey are welcome...

I worry a bit about where the money comes from. Corruption...

But I see a field of solar panels for the water company. And I think: Would NZ do anything like that if it had the money? ANd I think not. There would be endless squabbly meetings and the money would vanish up on salaries for people who ern too much already.

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I do see inklings that things are moving (at a snails pace) in better directions, here. Teh Minister of Health said the government would give the Canturbury DHB more than 100 million to shore up their budget deficit for the explicit purpose of paying their workers.

Enough rope to hang themselves with?

We will see. Either they will come through this being entrusted with more power and more money... Or they will be one of the health boards who will vanish after the election as they get rid of a fair few of them.

I am almost certain that the courts won't throw out my cases on the grounds that I am too poor for justice to be accessible to me. Not fully certain. Almost certain. It is known that people don' tdo legeal aid work not because the case has no merits but because the courts do not pay people enough for them to undertake that kind of work.

There are people who undertake that kind of work... But they are swamped. I don' tsee how they can do a properly competent job of things when they are that swamped. They can't.

Yeah.

Our leaders genuinely don't believe the laws apply to them. ANd neither do their lawyers. It's a problem.

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 15:36:32

In reply to where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 15:21:00

There is a court case presently being heard in the Court of Appeal in NZ.

Mr X is married to Mrs X. Mr X is a lawyer in the US. Mr X acceptes millions and millions of US dollars of bribe payments for who knows what. Officials in Texas put a request to Switzerland to put a freeze on a number of bank accounts while they conduct further investigations. They start to accumulate evidence that Mr X has been laundering money into accounts in relatives names etc and not just in his own name.

Mrs X has a bank account set up in the Bahamas. A trust company is set up in NZ - let us call it T.

Mrs X then launders money (successfully) into a Bank of New Zealand bank account set up for the trust company. The NZ Commissioner of police (I think) then orders a freeze to be placed on the account...

While... While, uh, while they try and figure if there's any way they get to keep the money??

Some cases for the court of appeal... Involving a husband and wife team of lawyers. Let us call them 'Mrs and Mr C'.


Two appeals. Listed in the proceedings as two distinct matters (to be heard together).

Mrs C represents Mrs X v Mr C represents the NZ Commissioner of police.

That's the first proceeding. Second proceeding.

Mrs C represents the Commissioner of police and Mr C represents the Trust company.

_________

Do you see a conflict??

__________

NZ: Trying to prosecute corruption with corruption.

ffs.

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:01:42

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 15:36:32

I am not making this up.

This is a set-up -- right?

Someone, somewhere is taking the piss.

Making a mockery of the whole thing.

I got the sense that kim.com was basically a rich person (or someone who legitimate sources of power allowed to convey himself as a rich person... an avatar, if you will)... Sent to NZ as something of a missionary, if you will, for the development of our legal system.

Why?

Because NZ increasingly falls behind other nations when it comes to developing.

kim.com was about how foreign nations (e.g., the US) courts had made certain decisions regarding his conduct. About things like theft and so on. They were saying his money was not legitimately come by.

And NZ went: We don't care how you come by your money. Money is money is money is money grubbity grub grub grub can we have some money??

So... It wasn't all that hard to make it look like kim.com might actually (genuinely, truly, really really really for really really reals) use his money in NZ and his citizenship in NZ that he brought with his money in NZ to... Win the election.

It took that for our elected officials... For our government... To see... That what was in their own (grubbity grub grub grub) interests was to not accept money when it comes from dodgey sources / dodgey bastards like that. Because if they get their money doing unlawful things then who knows what they are capable of??

And it took sooooooooooooooooo loooooooooooooooong because our elected officials are thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb. Sigh.

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So this Mr X and Mrs X thing...
Feels to me like a bit of a set-up.
It was a problem that the bank didn't report stuff in time OR the agencies reported to (the attorney general) did not inform authorities in the Bahama's that they were concerned about the source of funds that Mrs X was trying to transfer into trust C in New Zealand. Refuse to accept the funds until proper records were produced.
Not launder the money.

But we didn't do this. Because there was a sense that we should take the money and that we would figure a way to keep it, or something.

It does to me feel like a set-up.
Not a local set-up.
An international set-up.
Like a 'bomb scare' or whatever.
A training procedure.
With or to good intent.

I don't for a minute think that it is possible for a dirty lawyer to get his hands on so very much money in bribe payments.
It strikes me as entirely not credible.
But that's the nature / kind of threat that there is in the world now.
It's not 'real money'. It's just numbers on pieces of paper.
And they are vanished.
The Switzerland bank accounts that have however much money seized indefinately...
Buried forever in vast stone chambers being guarded by dwarves under the ground...
Lolz.

You have to 'cash out'. I mean... Turn numbers on a page into actual goods and services. Use of things like houses and yachts and whatever else.
Money is supposed to be a source of legitimacy, I suppose.
It's supposed to be what authenticates or legitimates some people having more than others.
Only the truly rich don't live like they have an infinite supply of money...
Something about living within your means...
SOmething about what you value.

I suspect most of it (much of it) is a dreamed up farce for controlling the masses...
People like the ideal of the very very very rich...

I don't know.
I would like to learn more about money and about entrepunership and the like -- from people who genuinely and truly know.
It's not the kind of thing that just anybody could (or should) be taught.
Genuine growth is tied up in an ethical sensibility... Sustainability.
Realism. Periods of expansion and periods of contraction.
Slowly. Sensibly. Resiliently. Taking stock. Growing. Assessing.

But the case...

I guess it showed me just how under-developed things are, here.
The legal system.

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The US authorities can't co-operate with us in international investigations because we lack the basic infrastructure to do any such thing.

If it's one thing the high crime rate does in the US... The police are something else. I know there are problems with corruption in the police and so on... But when there has been a shooting or whatever the police know what they are doing. Moving in. Securing the scene. Or maybe they don't know what they are doing. Maybe it is a pretence.

Case after case after case after case in NZ:

- Prosecution. Can't prosecute the case. Why not? Evidence not admissible. Why not? The client wasn't read they rights. Or the evidence was unlawfully obtained (the police had no right to have entered the property because they conned a kid to open a window or open the door and let them in when their parents weren't home). Over and over and over and over... Case thown out. Police threw the case. Police didn't read them their rights. Police didn't follow the rules on collecting and keeping evidence. Over and over and over...

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I know why we need a secure postal system, now.

The election.

It's a federal offence to tamper with the post.

Downstairs... I see people's election mail strewn about on the side-walk. We don't have secure post-boxes. We don't have a secure postal system.

Why does this matter?

I think around 1/4 of our population lives overseas.

Apparently around 1 million so we are really a team of 6 million.

Lots of people in NZ are too young to vote... Maybe those numbers add up...

What does this mean?

Well, people can vote online. Yes they can. If they are overseas they don't need to post their votes in.

Okay...

So... Who controls the software system used for counting the foreign votes for the NZ election?

I'm not making this sh*t up.

Does the NZ government choose to invest in maintaining a postal system? Will it come to this realisation? Will it put that in the rental property laws? That landlords must provide a secure post-box for mail to be recieved by tenants?

The government likes to profit by insisting on sending people things by post that get the person into trouble when tehy don't recevie it. A setting up to fail thing. So people don't get notified their benefit payment will stop or they don't get notified they may choose to appear to defend themselves in court.

I wonder what the international community will decide will be the outcome of the NZ election.

WE are a puppet state...

Concentration camp island.

It's not nice living here... So very very very vvery very far behind...

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:20:59

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:01:42

It is just about pockets of civilisation... Pockets of development.
And it is about who knows who knows who knows who.
To know if the person is out to profit themselves at the expense of everybody else (if they are a management problem) or what is going on...
And it is about education... Because sometimes people do things with harmful effects and they did not know or understand or see the harmful effects or they wouldn't have done various things they had done...

I know I'm not blameless. I've done things that have hurt others and I wouldn't have done them if I had have understood prior to action...

But people here do not listen to me.

Do not listen.

Basic reading comprehension.

The most basic of skills of listening and reading comprehension.

We don't have Universities in NZ.

Because the 'Universities' in NZ do not allow their studnets (or the majority of their academics) 'academic freedom' that they are required to, by law, for 'University' status. THey refuse to allow people to work to international standards. They refuse to hire people engaged in research. They refuse to allow students to get their own research (that is their own work rather than being over-edited by their supervisors into something less likely to be acceptable to externals) to externals. They refuse to allow studnets to work to international standards.

New Zealand refuses to hire people competent to teach Medicine, Engineering, Law, anything...
New Zealand refuses to sign off on people competent in these things.
New Zealand signs off on people who are not competent in these things.
New Zealand hires people demonstrated to be incompetent in these things internatinally.
New Zealand refuses to supply to international.

I suppose it is about money laundering. Into University bank accounts.

Like ''The Soprano's'' How Meadow's mum was going to these meetings with whoever trying to get more donations for teh University. Saying that Meadow's college experience would go better for the money...

The college guy who was meeting and asking for these payments (to his credit) was insinuating... But there was no heavy-handedness. From memory. No threats. She wasn't actually treated any differently -- was she??

She chose that she didn't want to study Medicine. She chose to work in the community law centre. She choose...

It's a good ideology.

Of course the practice might fall short or be different.

But we don't even have an ideology worth working towards.

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:32:55

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:20:59

I guess at the end of the day you look at the products.

The outputs.

The US and Russia are sending their America's Cup Yachts to New Zealand on massive aircraft.

New Zealand 'contracted out' our engineering (boat design) to Europe.

So many orders of magnitude...

It strikes me as blindingly obvious that our ideology is required to be (the only sensible ideology) is the moral high ground.

But we don't have the cognitive capacity to grasp that.

'Game changing' has become a popular expression.

Re-framing.

Choosing not to play set-ups. Choosing not to gamble.

Identifying a fair game when you see one?

How are the courts supposed to bill?

Well... The government is supposed to fund the justice system.

The health system.

The education system.

Sigh.

The Government doesn't collect up all the taxes that are owed to it under present taxation laws.

It isn't only about altering our taxation laws to keep them in line with the laws everywhere else... It's about collecting up what is theirs.

I wonder who pays for the trail for the cases I mentioned before. The two related cases for the two related couples... I think the NZ lawyers were hedging their bets (one on each side) of both cases. The cases did not appear to me to be distinct. So that's 4x the billings with a lawyer in every corner. It's a made up piece of nonsense surely.

What is it's function?

I suppose the judges will say what is to happen going into the future. The Bank of New Zealand will be told what to do next time someone isn't able to produce the documentation as the source of the funds. The Commissioner of Police will be told what to do next time with respect to getting the Attorney General to ask internationally for seizure of funds or initiating an investigation or whatever.

It shows that there's potential problems with officials in Texas handing over information about ongoing investigation to NZ officials. Because people can use our underdeveloped laws to (for example) give the husband information about who the Texas officials are -- in which case someone might get whacked (melodramatically). Our freedom of information act.... Could put people in danger. People have been killed for less.

I don't suppose the rest of it matters.

This whole country just feels like a Primary School. Everything is pretend.

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:39:27

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:32:55

I completed a 120 point 1 EFT one academic year MPhi thesis for the University of Waikato in 2018.

I completed it to the satisfaction of two external examiners one of whom was based overseas (in Canada as a PhD graduate of MIT - that's the Massacheusets institute of technology and not the Manakau institute of technology).

The ONLY outcome of examination based in their reports is that the University is required to sign off on changes to the substance that have been made within 10 weeks.

The University REFUSED to get the substantively changed work back to examiners so they could sign off (so 2 exact copied could be authorised to be hardbound).

It is now 2020 and WHERE's MY DEGREE???

Apparently NZ qualifications expire in 5 years. NZ Universities don't acknowledge qualifications they conferred more than 5 years ago. We have this online system, now, where 'who's asking' determined what the University tells them.

Who has control of our online records? Who owns the software system whereby grades and qualifications and enrolment dates and so on can so easily be altered?

There's nothing here.

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:49:08

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:39:27

When I was an undergraduate at the University of Waikato there was a policy on late-ness. You lost 5 per cent every day it was late up until 5 days at which point the highest grade you could receive was a C pass (the lowest passing grade) -- and that was only possible if you handed in an A+ piece of work.

It trained people to get their work in one time.
It rewarded people who chose to do their work instead of going to that party.

It made it such that people who handed in late ended up with an unweildy mess of everything due at the same time and... It prevented people getting to there.

But teh Universities decided that that wasn't an ideology they wanted for New Zealanders. So they got rid of it.

They condoned people giving people the extensions they asked for in order to get them into these unweildy messes. They didn't consdier that their job was to train people to meet deadlines. Instead they actually encouraged teachers to actually encourage studnets to take every extention they could get. Tehy actively encouraged teachers to actively encourage studnets to fail. That is to say the people employed to teach and instruct and lead and helep were actually hired to mislead and lead astray and set up to fail. Those employed to help were the biggest sources of harm.

So studnets are told that their work is rubbish and it's sh*tty and it's crap. Studnets are told that lying about tehir laboratory findings or lying about the singificane or impact of their finding is what is valued and best. So the teachers engourage (or if that isn't enough force on threat of failure) the students to change their work so it is plagarised and full of lies.

ANd then (if that wasn't enough) they are always given changes they need to make... Round and round and round. If they can set up a team of advisors to say 'change A to B' and 'change B to C' and 'Change C to A' so that studnets work is never done. They are never allowed to submit their work (and their panel decides -- right??)

So the studnets thesis is not allowed to be the product of the studnet. It is written and rewritten and rerewritten by their supervisor or supervisory panel. It is rerewritten into such a state that it contains plagarism and bad inferences and so on... It is rewritten so it is less likely to be accepted or acceptable to international community. It is late.

And only when they are sure that nobody will see any merits in any of it at all do they hail it as almighty and wonderful!!

OOOOOh you are amazing! You get no money at all! There was your career! OOOOOOOOOOh look what you accomplished with your life!!

You had something good and we ruined it! Yay you! You are one of us! Let's do this to the next generation?? We can do it better!!

Tis the Kiwi dream.

 

Re: where you live

Posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 22:05:01

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 16:49:08

quote of the century...

something along teh lines of 'but Meadow, sweetie, we thought you could be a pediatrician'.

'but mommy, pre-meds have to work so hard'.

quote of the century...

'you have nooooooooooooooooooooooo ideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea'

 

swim test????

Posted by alexandra_k on October 3, 2020, at 0:12:15

In reply to Re: where you live, posted by alexandra_k on October 2, 2020, at 22:05:01

Are you f*ck*ng kidding me!!!

I am the floaty girlllllllllllllllllllll

Especially with no amount of time in which swim test must be done...

I'll trade ya.

I'll do your swim test (even your dive test) for calculus a-b and b-c

Done?

I jest.

I just learned about swim tests. That's what every comp sci major at MIT needs. To pass a swim test.

F*ck*ng a.

I jest.

Not really.

I am amused.

 

Re: swim test????

Posted by alexandra_k on October 3, 2020, at 0:18:23

In reply to swim test????, posted by alexandra_k on October 3, 2020, at 0:12:15

I'm sorry -- that sounded facecious.

I did not mean it to be.

The swim test is not insignificant for many people.

And neither is calculus b-c.

that is all I meant to convey.

Which is known.

Of course.

Athletics....

In the context of a drug tested environment with zero tolernace for drugs and with prioritisation for athletic pursuits.

It helps to focus on a sport that nobody else much plays.

I understand why.

Peace.

 

Re: swim test????

Posted by alexandra_k on October 3, 2020, at 0:19:21

In reply to Re: swim test????, posted by alexandra_k on October 3, 2020, at 0:18:23

Prioritisation for *intellectual* pursuits. Ahem.


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