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new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 8, 2020, at 19:01:40

i ordered a commerical line 16 inch wide area, the website never responded and will not accept call or anything, i've remailded them. Nothing, unless they have some kinda wierd research loooking me up, i don't know. Then i tried to buy a hooover convcertible, the collectors item, then the seller said he would get it packed up an send it. Never heard from him again,, he read my messeges but he didnt respond. So those 2 things have been a bummer to me.

Anyways, i bought a 60 dollar metal brush with a metal beater, i thought it would do an exellant job in beating the carpet with metal, because it vibrates and digs deep...suppost to be beat the carpet, smack it hard down, so everything down deep will come up. It hardly looks like vacuumed, it does but it doesnt have the streaks, hear it beating the carpet, and makig it hot, no vacuum streaks that make it look clean, it looks like metal was beating the carpet. May just go back to the orignal brush which did much better job in making this carpet look clean and groomed. The beater cleans and beats it, but there's not much difference in appearance after its done. I thought the beater which was like 60 dollars for a heavy metal chuck, Doesn't look groomed, looks like metal was cleaning the carpet, not grooming it.

picks up more dirt, the bag is fuller than the roll brush, but still it makes the carpet look not as fresh groomed as metal brush roll standard.

I'm just a clean freak, want everything look perfect

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 9, 2020, at 17:07:15

In reply to new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 8, 2020, at 19:01:40

guess im reporting janitoral reviews, lets move on to something else

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 10, 2020, at 17:58:10

In reply to new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 8, 2020, at 19:01:40

I think maybe there is a difference between being a clean freak and being a tidy freak.

(I am making this up as I go along so far as I know).

A clean freak would focus on how much dirt is being picked up. If you are removing more crap from the carpet with the beater then it looks like the beater is doing a better job of cleaning.

With respect to it looking groomed... There is a difference between washing your hair, and tidying it.

I don't know what sort of carpet you have. Is it a long pile carpet? Something that shows how the pile is laying, clearly. I would imagine that you could get the pile to lay the way you want it to with a brush. Maybe a soft nylon broom. Or maybe something with a soft wiper on it -- like one that clears water from the windscreen or your shower or something.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 10, 2020, at 17:59:34

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 10, 2020, at 17:58:10

Don't know how durable the carpet is. It could be that the crap coming off of it is actually carpet. Like how the wet shampoo things likely take a bit of the dye out.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 11, 2020, at 0:04:10

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 10, 2020, at 17:59:34

yeah ... i have a regular brushroll, it has 4 brushes on it, its on a sanitaire commerical line, it sucks the dirt up like crazy. Then i was researching better ways to really dig clean dirt, i discovered the beater bar, it was made in the 1920s by hoover, it beats the carpet with metal and vibrates and causes heat, i tured it all the way down to 1 level, my goodness the carpet looked it was beaten clean. Metal beater hits the carpet so hard that whatever deep is down in there, will defiently come up. The regular metal brush roll wouldnt do that. But still, it doenst leave, it leave streaks but not the kind that makes it look vacuum superbed groomed. I't more like a metal hit clean, read actutally it can damage some types of carpet, because of its desctructive action on hitting dirt. But the only way i found out, the bag, it has so much, its almost completly full, with dust, i have allergen outer bag, and allergen inner bag to make sure everything clean air coming out. The bag is so full within 2 weeks of vacuuming every 3 days. So that defeintly does show it beats down deep, but it doenst make the carpet look as groomed, as regular vacuums do. This is a sanitaire vacuum, there other older hoover vacuums that had beaters on them. Back in the day, they use beaters anymore. Too expensive to make heavy chunk of metal anymore, on a brush roll. It was 60$. There many more that are more expensive.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 11, 2020, at 0:19:32

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 11, 2020, at 0:04:10

this is the vacuum i have
https://www.buysanitaire.com/Sanitaire/SC888N-Upright-Sanitaire-Vacuum__SC888N.aspx

metal brush roll
https://evacuumstore.com/p-2807-eureka-sanitaire-53273-brush-assembly.aspx?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Sanitaire+-+Shopping+-+USA&utm_term=shopping&utm_content=spctn84jq_pcrid_105684862989_pkw__pmt__pdv_c_slid__product_2807-4498--_pgrid_28473713349_ptaid_pla-189017951829_&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI34K0wYD56QIVkoTICh0z0glnEAkYCCABEgLEBvD_BwE

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 11, 2020, at 3:05:48

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 11, 2020, at 0:19:32

unfortunately i cannot view the second link you posted in this country.

i don't know a great deal about vaccums. i suppose i am thinking of lawns. when the grounds keepers mow the lawns on their ride on mowers up one way and down the other and you get lines on the field.

otherwise... we used to have a shag pile carpet when i was a kid in one of the rooms of the house. i remember i used to pet it to get the free end lying neat. sometimes i used to braid it. which drove my mother nuts.

more recently i have had only nylon carpets with very tight and flat pile so the groomed look isn't an option. it's just about vaccuming the dust and road soot etc off of it. i suppose it is cleaner. but it doesn't feel so nice to walk on. quality underlay would help.

i have a bagless vaccum. i like that. i like to see it picking up the dust when i vaccum. makes me feel like there is a point to it -- since it can't / won't look groomed, i suppose.

do you think it is degrading the quality of the carpet? beating it? you are very clean and tidy vaccuming ever few days. i try and vaccum weekly, but, you know... i don't suppose that i do...

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 11, 2020, at 3:29:17

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 11, 2020, at 3:05:48

i am not very good at cleaning, anymore. i used to be better. i would clean things once a week. it would take about half a day.

then i got tired of it taking about half a day. so i tried to distribute things better.

living by myself i don't feel the need to clean up after myself if i don't feel like it. then, when i do feel like it everything gets to be spotless. just the way i like it. i think i do the vaccuming when i start to feel a bit sneezy. basically.

mostly it's hair. i don't know how i'm not bald for the hair i shed on surfaces and into the shower.

i think showers are best cleaned when you are in them, too. can scrub jiff around while you are waiting for conditioner to do it's thing.

dishes can be left rinsed or with a little water to soak and washed prior to next use...

i don't know. it's just me. otherwise... otherwise... i start to feel like i'm cleaning all day. tidying up and cleaning all day. and i don't like to feel like that. i'd rather live in a mess. i've learned. or... come to peace with, i guess. i'll make my bed before i get into it. but not otherwise. etc.

i do like having my own cave. feels like.

until everything has to be clean. and aired out. etc.

i don't know.

maybe it's partly because i live in what feels like a bustling area. i don't like to feel on display. i do feel on display with curtains open and windows open. on display to the people passing by. i don't like to feel like that. so i want to keep curtains closed for privacy. i mean, i like to have things aired out. i'm grateful it's easy to make a wind-tunnel by opening windows, no problems with air-flow... but i like to not feel on display.

i wouldn't object to a glass wall that was mirror on outside or opaque on outside. or clear looking out to private space. but with the people about i feel more cave about my house. protective of it as my own personal space, i mean to say. messy. maybe as part of that.

i suppose i kept my house in dunedin cleaner because i felt it was more private. i mean to say.

i don't know.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 12, 2020, at 19:53:45

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 11, 2020, at 3:29:17

I did over the rug on low setting, the carpet look different than a regular brush roll, the metal thing hits the carpet, the run and beats it all way down for dirt to come up, but it damages certain carpets, so I have nice rug in the living room we have had for years, many years, I started using the beater bar, on low position, the lowerst can go and noticed it made the carpet look different. Most vacuums today don't use metal beaters on them, too much money, usally for commercial line, they use 4 brush rolls, not metal beaters with brushes. That's older technology, hoover invented the beater bar in the 1920s and found how much more dirt, it beats down deep insie and makes it come up. It really depends, I have a hoover convertible with a beater bar, it looks different than the commercial line. I put it on low setting, and I should'nt of done it, it looks beaten and worn down. Stupid me.

Most vacuums today, never use beater bars, they use plastic brushrolls. They are better in grooming the carpet, but not lifting the dirt all the way deep in the carpet.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 12, 2020, at 20:13:41

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 12, 2020, at 19:53:45

yes.

they also don't make carpets like they used to, often.

they used to be high quality wool.

yeah, you would flaten them by walking on them. beating them... well... if it was a rug you would hang it up outside and... beat it. yeah.

like how you give feather duvets and pillows a good shake. fluffs them up.

we used to have wollen carpets and i do remember there was something about vaccuming creating 'lift' or 'loft' in the carpet.

but i'm also thinking about twist-pile carpets. so the woolen fibers are twisted into a loop. natural fibers can break whereas nylon is much more durable... you wanted to be a bit careful with rubbing twist pile carpets because you could hurt the carpet. like... if you neatly plat your hair and then toss and turn on your pillow and you end up with little frizzy bits sticking up and out of the plats.

depending a bit on the quality of the wool.

if you have an old carpet (high quality wool) then beating it might be better for it. i don't know. what kind of carpet is it?

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 13:57:58

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 12, 2020, at 20:13:41

not sure, i know it's high durability carpet, looks nice, stain resistant, and it can take beatings, but it was the rug that got messed up, i had the vacuum on 3 setting which is standard, it didnt look like there was much streaks, so i turned it down to 1, lowest, and i noticed major vibration, and feel beating and heat. It was the rug that got kinda messed up, if i didnt turn it down to 1, kept it at 3 or 4 which is standard, it would been ok. I did notice yes, the vibration beating, but it was too low. The carpet through out the house can take the beating, but i changed it yesturday back to metal standard brush, which is metal, but no beater bars, just heavy duty brushes. Noticed increase in grooming look. I'm only using it now, for deep clean, when dirt is a lot and is deep in the carpet. Not regularly.

Not sure what type of carpet i have, but it did take the beating action, it was rug that got messed up, and one ... because i turned the setting down to lowerst, 1. That could of very much beat it too much, make it look flat because of metal clean.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 14:16:31

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 13:57:58

older hoover convertibles, from the 50-80s had beater bars, but they seemed a bit different than the commercial line. They had more streaks, but still not as much grooming as standard brushes. In theory, said it support to lift the carpet, and beat deep into it. This is only for sanitaire commerical grade, hoover convertible's and oher older ones have beater bars, but they don't look the same.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 14:23:33

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 12, 2020, at 20:13:41

yes your right, it does lift the carpet, but yeah....its like using a metal brush to comb your hair, some can be good in untangling it, others can pull it out

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 14:29:49

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 14:23:33

https://homevacuumzone.com/beater-bar-vs-no-beater-bar/

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 13, 2020, at 19:11:23

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 13, 2020, at 14:29:49

Hmm... That's actually interesting. I have a very cheap suction vaccum that has a very firm row of nylon bristles that I can set to be out or retracted. If the bristles are out then they drag across the top of the carpet and it picks up my hair a lot better. It's more like if I run the flat of my hand over the surface of the carpet I can collect up hair or even make a little hair-ball. I wouldn't use the nylon bristle setting on a twist pile woolen carpet, though, becuase I think it would grab and tear the fibers.

It's a good idea to maybe use the beater bar for a deeper cleaning maybe less frequently.

Sounds like you have a wool lose pile carpet. I think I'm supposed to know about these things because of wool... My Dad was a builder so he would talk about these things... Carpet is a big deal. As is underlay. I am a big fan of underlay with my feet injuries. I like to spend time on the floor. I don't like to feel carpet-burn on my knees and ankles from shifting around, though. But I do find it so much more comfortable for walking to have decent quality underlay.

I have used one of those upright hoovers at some point. I think it was hospitality at ANU, actually. I remember thinking that that style wouldn't be good for getting right up agains the walls. But then, no style is, really, and you have to take the time to run a different end fixture to do things properly. I liked the weight of the vaccum. Felt like it encouraged me to move it slowly across the suface. Rather than scrubbing accross the top of it as I tend to do with my lighter one.

I know good vaccums aren't cheap. But then, they were designed to last a lifetime (and then some).

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 13, 2020, at 19:19:22

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 13, 2020, at 19:11:23

I guess that was the trouble with American Manufacturing. It got too good.

Cars weren't cheap. But you brought a new one and you looked after it. And then you gave it to your kid as their first car however many years later...

Jeans... I'm talking the heavy duty cotton ones. Not quite the ones you needed to shrink-fit yourself, in the bathtub (I'm not that old) but the good old pre-shrunk 501s. They lasted a while, yeah? You didn't need to buy a new pair in the latest style every season because the elasticity pooped-out and they went saggy in all the wrong places...

THough... It might be true that you were still wearing them in same time next year...

I remember a new pair of Doc Martin boots (back when the leather was thicker and more durable) would take a good 6 months or so to wear in... Now... They start to wear out in maybe double that...

Things were expensive. But things were an investment.

Even things like sweatshirts and the like...

I remember looking at the Duke store. You know, hoodies and the like. I remember the most expensive sweats. They were really high quality really thick cotton. I mean... You could wash and wash and wash and wash and wash and I'm sure that you would never wear out those sweats in your lifetime...

I didn't buy the most expensive. I brought a distinctly mid-range. And it's still good. And since I've brought I don't know how many 'regular hoodies' from stores and they have worn bare (elbows) or started freying at the cuffs after more like 3 or 4 or 5 years.

All the rubbish....

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 13, 2020, at 19:20:28

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 13, 2020, at 19:19:22

I mean 'too good' to be cheeky / tongue in cheek.

I don't really mean it got too good. It got really really good. But then other things needed to develop so as to protect it.

Labor laws and the like.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 19, 2020, at 18:43:31

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 13, 2020, at 19:20:28

hey alex, thanks for you imput your funny lol

I realized, first I beater had it on backwards, that's why it looked not groomed, had belt on backwards. So after fixed it, yes the carpet had streaks and groomed.

The standard, the one you see in pic, with orange brosh rolls, it grooms very well, makes the carpet look professioanly clean and groomed. The other one, yes it did groom but not as much as standard, mainly because of its desgn and the brisles on the thing are not as hard as the standard. But right when I finished vacuuming, the bag was almost half full with dirt, it really beats down inside. I couldlnt believe it, the bag was half full after was done. The standard did not, it did but not as much as.

You should try the sanitiare commercial vacuum, they really kickass, the link above. They last for a long time, there durable, never overhead, designed to be used everyday.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 19, 2020, at 18:52:41

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 19, 2020, at 18:43:31

usally I set it on 3, for most carpets, but when turned it down 1, heat and vibration, more dirt being wacked. But it's a metal clean, it does have streaks, and grooming, and beats more dirt out the carpet than standard

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by alexandra_k on June 20, 2020, at 19:18:02

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 19, 2020, at 18:43:31

> I realized, first I beater had it on backwards, that's why it looked not groomed, had belt on backwards. So after fixed it, yes the carpet had streaks and groomed.

Yay!!!!!!! That's terrific :-)

In Canberra the rental laws are such that you need to have the carpet professionally steam cleaned right at the end of your tenancy. So, you need to plan for all your things to be out in time for them to come in time for the carpet to be dry for the end of your lease so the next lot can move straight on in. You had to supply the landlord with some kind of ticket from the professional steam cleaning service -- you couldn't just do it yourself, or whatever.

I was a big fan of that. It meant that when you moved into a new rental you could feel okay about lying on the carpet and so on. Not having to worry about where the previous tenants rabbits was pooping or about catfood being trampled in or...

We just pretend that if it looks okay, then it must be, in NZ. That's why are having a hard time with the whole 'just because you don't have symptoms doesn't mean you aren't a carrier' thing with Covid. And washing your hands / sanitising your hands even when they don't look dirty.

That being said, there is little more satisfying than seeing how much dirt you collect doing the vaccuming. All the little asthma-inducing particles... Yeah.

My house gets road-soot because I am close to busy roads. I think that is actually what it is. A little bit of coal-dust, effectively. It forms as a black dust on my balcony and I can sweep it up, or whatever. I think I should vaccum more because it likely is carcinogenic.

 

Re: new vacuum parts

Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 1, 2020, at 0:55:03

In reply to Re: new vacuum parts, posted by alexandra_k on June 20, 2020, at 19:18:02

seriously, a metal beater would be perfect for dirt filled carpet, if you wanted to clean a rug or carpet, they beat the dirt, vacuum almost half full, than the regular hoover brush vacuum, tiny amount


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