Psycho-Babble Social Thread 1107647

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For what it's worth

Posted by Toph on January 3, 2020, at 12:18:50

As a retired Psycho-Babble participant and enthusiast, I return to this website out of boredom and nostalgia. The only thing I want to share is my perception, contrary apparently to some cynical hangers-on, that Bob created this site primarily motivated by professional imperatives, a burgeoning internet opportunity, and the possibility that a shared need for support combined with anonymity could foster a therapeutic milieu.

It did.

I advance a benevolent purpose for PB based on my experience with other members here and despite my somewhat contentious relationship with Bob. I believe that he treated my periodic dissent rigidly and punitively, an intervention I found anti-psychotherapeutic. He was nonetheless consistent (guided by some bazaar formula that attempted to lend a scientific means to his madness), but what moreover seemed to be motivated by a genuine interest in maintaining a safe place for a diverse group purportedly seeking psychological support.

I also had the pleasure of meeting Bob twice in person with other babblers in Chicago. He was as engimatic as ever both times, though transparent in his delight to put faces on individuals he knew in the cyber world he had created.

My waning involvement in Babble was a function of several factors. My primary cohort of friends here dissolved, Babble's ineptness in dealing with trolls, and the rapid expansion of social media drew me away from a place that was once as important as any, either in real life or in the cyber world.

This place was special to me and many others for years. I miss it, my friends here... and Bob.

 

Re: For what it's worth

Posted by rjlockhart37 on January 4, 2020, at 0:44:24

In reply to For what it's worth, posted by Toph on January 3, 2020, at 12:18:50

i rerember coming here, there was so many posters with storng opinons and also conflict. But i started in 2003, the old posters like chemist, and indepth detail in study of effects or pharmacology, was a lot. I remember a lot of posters, funny ones too, highly educated in pharmacology, and some that drove the site mad became trolls.

I was once, back in the day, not a troll but just a drama person that made a tiny problem into broadcast emergency status. I frequently got into fights with a poster named Maxine, and few others. I learned and don't want to read any of those posts anymore, hope they stay buried with RIP drama queen. I think now, just support and knowedge on helping the communitee is best and hope it stays. I rerember once post....you may laugh, i made you the poster of the day, it was post, i don't know back in 2005, posting poster of the week or was toph. I'll have find that in archives. We were doing posters of the day, have to find it in archives.

So, today babble is the main posters here, less conflict, and more support, but i think make it more indepth study like, back in the day

 

Re: For what it's worth » Toph

Posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2020, at 12:48:22

In reply to For what it's worth, posted by Toph on January 3, 2020, at 12:18:50

I guess there are worse ways to be than bored, and it is the time of year to feel nostalgic.

It is nice to see you here, friend.

I hope that things are well, for you, and that the boredom is fleeting / transitory.

I am not doing so well. Story of my life.

Everything used to be (to feel) internal. Like the problem was me. There was something wrong with me. I was doing it to myself or creating it in myself, somehow.

I have come to see that the problem is largely external.

Environmental. Being forced to live in living conditions that do not meet my physiological needs (for temperature and humidity and - intermittently - sound / vibration). Psychological needs (to be let alone).

Being kept handicapped without access to basic resources to meet my needs.

Without having a living wage.

Without having meaningful work.

The government is the major employer. All the government jobs. The government departments. The public Universities. The public hospitals. Etc etc etc. There has been no meaningful work, for me, in this country. Ever. And they are refusing to process me for training place that would give me the opportunity to get the f*ck out and have a life worth living away from here. And they will not let me contribute to here. Because of my inability / unwillingness to hui all day 'noooooooooo you are most esteemed, i want nothing more than to wait on yoooooooooou' kinds of b*llsh*t.

Since returning to this country people have treated me like a retarded child.

They enjoy the fact that I have been disabled, so.

They think it is absolutely hilarious that I didn't let my previous supervisor take 10 years to write a thesis that he was happy to put my name on.

The mob appears to be gaining momentum, now, that I don't get signed off on a research degree.

The person who was churning out a couple (different and distinct) talks per year has been disabled.

No work is done here. No work is done in this environment.

Philosophy professors are publishing in the glossy medical studnets journal (so the students don't get to). Of course!

That's how we roll.

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I suppose what will have to happen will be satellite campuses of overseas. Like how there is a Stanford in Singapore, I believe. Something like that.

I don't quite know how that works, though. I guess the idea is that the processing infrastructure / administration capability is provided from overseas because, let's face it, we don't seem capable of processing anything, here, only going 'we pick that one and this one and that one over there to do the things'.

But then we have this problem of free-riding. The people who make their fortunes off of being slum landlords. Those same people who expect a free-ride for their children in the public education system. Those same people who do not set up savings accounts for their childrens education (or whatever their children want to spend the money on when they come of age) because they expect that their children will get entry to the public undergraduate professional degree programs along with scholarships to pay for their elite residential hall fees and the associated tutors who will provide high quality worked examples for them.

If we get US or UK institution branches in NZ then how will the funding for that work?

I guess they will administer their own entry tests.

It wouldn't be so bad if our studnets were to study for the US tests.

It isn't like we have any kind of curriculum for them to be working on.

And with all the internet developed study materials. Khan academy particularly. All kids need is access to the internet and a good pair of headphones and however many hours where people basically let them alone to get on with it.

Would be a significant advance on here.

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Returning to this country has been like watching a train wreck happen before my eyes. I can see the inevitable... But nobody will listen to me. And mostly people have invested so they profit from the inevitable. It was their exit strategy, even. They took out something approximating insurance and they can't wait for it to happen.

All my life... Nobody credits me for the work I do / the things I have to say.

Summer scholarship. What came out of that. I wrote about how nobody had looked at the motivational component. Several months later the person who supervised me writes an article with someone else about the motivational component.

I give a talk on stuff to do with delusions that had a summary of a bunch of stuff. Someone is like 'hey that was terrific'. HOwever many months later they write an article and even give a talk to the department that basically takes the work I did as the first part.

I wrote about how things are more unequal in NZ and about how 'equity' places are only used to profit the already most advantaged and about how NZ doesn't seem to think it has obligations to international things including the UN. It was AFTER that that the sports entry scandal in the US. It was AFTER that that we have been going on and on and on about sustainability.

YOu are welcome.

Just keep on taking my things...

Taking my things...

Taking my things...

ANd freezing me out.

You are f*ck*ng welcome.

Where is the justice for me?

(She'll be alright! She can be her own lawyer ahahahahhahahahhahah!)

I f*ck*ng hate it, here.

While the 'chosen ones' run about stabbing babies with needles.

F*ck*ng awesome.

 

Re: For what it's worth

Posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2020, at 12:57:05

In reply to Re: For what it's worth » Toph, posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2020, at 12:48:22

And it was after September 14, 2018.

It was after I submitted my thesis for examination.

It was AFTER that that there was some rebate from the power company.

It was AFTER that that building legislation changed (don't worry it is still a case of too little too late, but building legislation has been changed so there are increased requirements on heating and ventillation that will be introduced -- that my present building does not meet).

It was AFTER that that sustainable development goals started appearing in public discourse in NZ.

It was AFTER that that there was the sports scandal in the US.

It was AFTER that that sensible things started coming out about legacy places (and about the use to which that money is put).

I don't need / want anybody to sing any kind of praised.

JUST F*CK*NG WELL SIGN ME OFF.

I did the work.

Where is my Degree?

I am so f*ck*ng tired of people stealing my stuff.

Nothing is produced because all people do is spend all their time energy and effort identifying what stuff they can steal next.

Only f*ck*ng idiots produce anything.

I think about all the things I could have done... All the things I could have done... All the things I could have done...

That did not get done.

Because of here. And because of how disabling here is.

Congraduations NZ

Top of the backwards race!

Yehaw!

 

Re: For what it's worth » Toph

Posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2020, at 13:06:14

In reply to For what it's worth, posted by Toph on January 3, 2020, at 12:18:50

I'm sorry Toph,

Things are not well for me.

Obviously and clearly.

Maybe what happened with the boards is that the internet became a little too available to people and you had people sort of... Take over and ruin things for everyone. People who had environmental problems where the solution was out of their power / control.

So the boards became less about medications...

That most of the world doesn't have access to, anyway.

I mean, we can't manage to provide the most basic of things like clean drinking water and vaccinations administered according to manufacturers instructions.

People say 'if you really think things are that bad then why do you want to join us' and I point out 'it's despite of you and not because of you'. Because I genuinely wanted to help make things better but what I see is the people with the power (I didn't say this) seemingly doing whatever they can to make things worse.

People become more invested in stopping people from helping than anything else.

People are more invested in inflicting their traumas on others. On justifying their own substandard choices by inflicting them all involuntarily like on others.

Am I the same as them?

No. Because they are mostly / largely unthinking. Reactors.

I am not a reactor. I spend a great deal of time processing processing processing processing and working through.

So people throw all their sh*t my way so I will process it for them and they see what comes out of me and internalise that for themselves.

Well just call me your Mommy and make sure I never have the resources to do anything other than be your Mommy.

YOur welcome.

It's f*ck*ng cold, I tell you, what.

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Sigh.

Babble never was for me because I'm not mentally ill.

It's like Russia was however many f*ck*ng years ago where people are herded into psychiatric institutions for political reasons.

Here has sort of got to there when it comes to development.

We don't have psychiatry, yet, because we are still doing the whole political oppression thing.

_____________________________________

People here have decided I can be a lawyer, now. They have decided that that will be a good job for me.

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The most important thing is that they choose. And that they choose something that i do not want to do.

The most important thing is that they think they know better than me what is good for me (and for everybody else) and they have the power to inflict their stupidity on the world.

That is the most important thing.

The most important thing is that they rule with an iron fist.

With the masses hanging about their feet singing their praises and begging for crumbs and scraps.

That is the most important thing.

Thats how the people like to live, here.

ffs.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaw.

Let us stab your babies with needles.


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