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Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 14:47:05
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to conver » Larry Hoover, posted by crushedout on January 8, 2005, at 8:52:08
> lol.
>
> depends how cute you are. so far i've never been attracted to an m-to-f (as far as i've known anyway) but there's always a first time!
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> i'm not sure i'm worth all that though. :[Well, if you're not sure, then I may have to reconsider.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 14:47:46
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert?, posted by TofuEmmy on January 8, 2005, at 10:46:50
> > If you waited 'til I have a sex change, would you still convert me?
> >
> > Lar
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> Lar - Is there something you want to tell us? ;-)
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> emmyInvestigating, is all. I do that, ya know.
Lar
Posted by gardenergirl on January 8, 2005, at 15:07:34
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert? » TofuEmmy, posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 14:47:46
It's good to keep your options open, ya know?
;)
gg
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 17:31:38
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to conver » Larry Hoover, posted by crushedout on January 8, 2005, at 8:52:08
> lol.
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> depends how cute you are. so far i've never been attracted to an m-to-f (as far as i've known anyway) but there's always a first time!Just for the record, I'd make a darned unfeminine looking female.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 17:32:08
In reply to Investigating » Larry Hoover, posted by gardenergirl on January 8, 2005, at 15:07:34
> It's good to keep your options open, ya know?
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> ;)
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> ggYup. I like to keep an open mind.
Lar
Posted by crushedout on January 8, 2005, at 17:35:12
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to conver » crushedout, posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 17:31:38
i had a feeling that was the case. it's likely i wouldn't be attracted to you then. i like my females feminine. at least somewhat.
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 21:53:06
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to conver » Larry Hoover, posted by crushedout on January 8, 2005, at 17:35:12
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> i had a feeling that was the case. it's likely i wouldn't be attracted to you then. i like my females feminine. at least somewhat.I hope I didn't offend you by taking your serious subject on a less weighty tangent.
Lar
Posted by Dinah on January 9, 2005, at 4:42:34
In reply to Kinsey scale, posted by Miss Honeychurch on January 4, 2005, at 15:24:45
A two dimensional scale just doesn't cover the range of sexuality, IMHO. I figure I'm somewhere around a 2. But my preference for imaginary, celluloid, or in-text men is greater than my preference for real men over real women. Also I'm predominately solosexual. Which isn't covered at all, unless it means that I should push myself higher on the scale. And then, solosexuality adds a whole new range of possibilities. Sensuality is everywhere. I can't even begin to imagine the number of things I'm just as attracted to as men or women.
Or maybe I really am schizotypal.
Posted by crushedout on January 9, 2005, at 10:53:47
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to conver » crushedout, posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2005, at 21:53:06
nooooo, you didn't offend me at all.
Posted by wheeler on January 10, 2005, at 11:35:18
In reply to GLBTQ Babblers, posted by deirdrehbrt on January 2, 2005, at 18:22:48
I'm not sure if I should post this in the Political forum, but I figured I'd start it here and see where we go.
I really don't want this to be about gays/god/good/bad but more about how should we move forward.
Since the US elections (which scares me, but that's another subject...) I've read many responses from some of the more vocal members of our community regarding marriage rights and what approach is best.
So I thought I'd pose the question:
Should our focus be on full marriage rights, including calling it a 'marriage', or should we take 'baby steps'. Maybe by first seeking domestic partner benefits, and then maybe civil unions...etc.I suppose I should disclose that my parter of three years, and I, just got married a few months ago. We live in Massachusetts.
Wheeler
Posted by ghost on January 10, 2005, at 14:26:11
In reply to Do we push for full marriage rights?, posted by wheeler on January 10, 2005, at 11:35:18
congrats on your marriage. :) i think that's awesome.
personally, i think that someone from mass who's married needs to move to another open-minded state and sue the pants off them when they go to file their taxes as married in that state (and then how does that work for federal taxes?)... or when they go to take advantage of some other marital privledge. Perhaps benefits at a job, or housing. any other couple who gets married (say, in vegas), can go to their homestate and still be married. i think that's what needs to happen.
but relocation is a big deal.
personally, i think marriage is the only way to go. but i'm aware that this world is full of narrow bigots who think we are sub-human, so i'll take anything i can get at this point.
my job offers domestic partner benefits. i'll never leave this place just because it's such a friendly and open company to work for-- they're incredible, and they deserve my talent.
just my two cents.
ghost
Posted by wheeler on January 10, 2005, at 15:03:28
In reply to Re: Do we push for full marriage rights? » wheeler, posted by ghost on January 10, 2005, at 14:26:11
Maybe I'm a little bias, but I don't think we should settle for anything less.
Recently, Cheryl Jacques headed up the HRC, but she left due to 'policy-conflicts'. My understanding is that her main goal was to push for full marriage rights. However, after 11 states passed the One Man/One Woman Marriage laws the HRC wanted to back down on the marriage goal. They wanted to start settling for less. She didn't want to back down, hence the 'policy-conflict'!
Obviously I don't want to hinder progress, but it seems like it's too late to start backpeddling. We(I) don't want less or different rights, we(I) want the same.
Posted by ed_uk on January 10, 2005, at 17:26:07
In reply to Do we push for full marriage rights?, posted by wheeler on January 10, 2005, at 11:35:18
Hello!
>I suppose I should disclose that my parter of three years, and I, just got married a few months ago. We live in Massachusetts.
Congratulations! (Can I be nosy and ask if you are a man or a woman?)
>Should our focus be on full marriage rights, including calling it a 'marriage', or should we take 'baby steps'. Maybe by first seeking domestic partner benefits, and then maybe civil unions...etc.
I think we should focus on full marriage rights, but I don't really mind whether it's actually called marriage or not.
Ed.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 10, 2005, at 17:37:04
In reply to Re: Do we push for full marriage rights? » wheeler, posted by ed_uk on January 10, 2005, at 17:26:07
Ok so gay marriage is ok in NE but not other states? Is that right?
I say OF COURSE you should be able to get married. All the legal benefits and responsibilities, and yeah, who cares what it is called though 'marriage' seems to be a logical choice.
I don't think it is recognised in NZ yet.
When my x partner left her partner of 14 years she lost everything. She paid for most of it but because they weren't legally married how were the assets supposed to be split up? The lawyer said that there were de facto relationship guidelines but the point was that it was not anywhere near as clear cut as a marriage relationship.If anything had happened to my x partner while I was her partner then I wouldn't even have been informed. Her family would have but I don't know if they would have been so keen on telling me. No fair :-(
Posted by wheeler on January 11, 2005, at 7:39:54
In reply to Re: Do we push for full marriage rights? » wheeler, posted by ed_uk on January 10, 2005, at 17:26:07
Hi Ed,
Don't mind you asking at all, We're women.I have to say, getting married was an awesome, scary, eye opening, nervous, exhausting process! But certainly worth it!
Ever since the election and the losses of rights in those 11 states I've been worried. I've read many articles concerning what people think our approach should be in the future. Some, including the HRC(?) feel that maybe we should start from more of the 'center' and not push for full marriage rights yet, and we shouldn't call it 'marriage' yet either. I disagree. I think if we call it anything less than 'marrriage' it will be looked upon as something 'less than marriage'.
Posted by karen_kay on January 11, 2005, at 16:28:07
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert?, posted by TofuEmmy on January 8, 2005, at 10:46:50
well crap! i opened this post hoping emmy was asking for a new girlfriend. i was even going to hit on her. and then, to my surprise, it's her asking lar a question. bah! i'll never read another emmy post again (unless of course she's hitting on me.)
oh, and HI emmy! missed you darling.
Posted by partlycloudy on January 11, 2005, at 17:17:32
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert? » TofuEmmy, posted by karen_kay on January 11, 2005, at 16:28:07
you social butterfly, you. Missed you hugely here.
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 11, 2005, at 18:18:28
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert? » TofuEmmy, posted by karen_kay on January 11, 2005, at 16:28:07
> well crap! i opened this post hoping emmy was asking for a new girlfriend. i was even going to hit on her. and then, to my surprise, it's her asking lar a question.
Karen, dear heart, asking Lar a question is not crap. Sorry to have to correct you in front of others.
Where've you been, eh? Trying to make everybody worried, eh? Geez, eh? Eh?
Hope you've been well.
Lar
Posted by Jai Narayan on January 11, 2005, at 18:38:33
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert? » TofuEmmy, posted by karen_kay on January 11, 2005, at 16:28:07
Posted by verne on January 11, 2005, at 20:20:44
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert? » TofuEmmy, posted by karen_kay on January 11, 2005, at 16:28:07
Asking Lar a question is always a good thing.
He's never domineering and will allow plenty of play, as he dips in and out of the thread without a ripple. Low-impact, environment friendly, and not concerned about himself - while at the same time, guiding people off Babble Top mountain under white-out conditions.
If someone in the "sub" thread is really asking someone else for a date, Lar won't disturb that.
verne
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 12, 2005, at 19:00:32
In reply to Babble Top Mountain » karen_kay, posted by verne on January 11, 2005, at 20:20:44
>If someone in the "sub" thread is really asking someone else for a date....
Holy moley!! Did I miss the Dom/Sub thread???? Wowsa! Babble sure is gittin' racey!!!
emsky
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 12, 2005, at 19:07:20
In reply to Re: Any straight women out there willing to convert? » TofuEmmy, posted by karen_kay on January 11, 2005, at 16:28:07
Yes, indeed she does. That is why she has stayed away so long. Well, that's my theory and I'm stinking to it.
KK - you miss me? You got a funny way of showing it, Missy. Where the H-E-double-toothpicks do you go betwix these one-hit-wonder posts? HUH? Quit teasing these poor peoples. Babble needs it's KK desparately, and Bob misses you. I've heard he cries himself to sleep at night. How sad. :-(
emmy
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 12, 2005, at 22:55:17
In reply to Re: Babble Top Mountain » verne, posted by TofuEmmy on January 12, 2005, at 19:00:32
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> Holy moley!! Did I miss the Dom/Sub thread???? Wowsa! Babble sure is gittin' racey!!!
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> emsky
Posted by verne on January 13, 2005, at 0:23:46
In reply to Babble Top Mountain » karen_kay, posted by verne on January 11, 2005, at 20:20:44
Arrived at base camp this morning and checked my messages. Still delirious from a night on the mountain above the vertical limit and quite exhausted really, having argued most of the night with fellow climbers, trying to persuade them that they were above the vertical limit and should descend. Most climbers succumb to the altitude, having stopped to argue with other climbers.
Life is really boring up here - well, except when we argue about the vertical limit.
Sometimes at these altitudes our messages are garbled. I count on it. I like to hike with sherpas and go so high, we no longer understand each other. (well we never did, but that's beside the point)
vribble
Posted by ed_uk on January 13, 2005, at 7:00:53
In reply to Vertical Limit, posted by verne on January 13, 2005, at 0:23:46
Hello Verne!
Where do you live?
Ed.
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