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Posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:54:05
okay... so this is a 'its three in the morning and i cant sleep' kind of thought...
some people here aren't so sure about their therapists... not so sure that they are right for them...
how about swapping for an agreed upon time?????
it would mean a move to internet therapy of course...
i dunno how they would feel about that...
it might be more palatable if its suggested as a 'client exchange' lol!it could be a once off
couple of times (to deal with a particular issue)
couple of months
or whatever kind of thing.
i guess it would want to be agreed in advance...
even if you are getting on in general and still want to keep 'em it might be easier to process some stuff with someone else for a couple sessions
(e.g., transference, or something you aren't sure how to broach)am i completely crazy?????
Posted by Tamar on August 21, 2005, at 18:05:39
In reply to Therapist exchange???, posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:54:05
I love your idea. However, I think Daisy's therapist might end up seriously overstretched, and that wouldn't be fair on Daisy :)
But yes, wouldn't it be good if we could each try out another person's therapist for a few sessions?
Mind you, I know some clients don't like to think their therapist sees other clients. On the other hand, I thought my therapist was so wonderful that I'd be happy to share him with other people... as long as he didn't forget *me*...
Posted by Angela2 on August 21, 2005, at 18:49:59
In reply to Therapist exchange???, posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:54:05
I like that idea Alex. I saw a diff. T for 2 sessions, and my mind was completely opened up to other people for a while.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 19:12:34
In reply to Re: Therapist exchange??? » alexandra_k, posted by Tamar on August 21, 2005, at 18:05:39
> I love your idea. However, I think Daisy's therapist might end up seriously overstretched, and that wouldn't be fair on Daisy :)
LOL! If I was Daisy I wouldn't want to swap! I was thinking more of the people who are considering ditching their t's anyway. That way they could try out another. Might be problematic if people didn't want to switch back though... Or if one did and the other didn't. Hmm...
Posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 19:13:32
In reply to Re: Therapist exchange???, posted by Angela2 on August 21, 2005, at 18:49:59
> I like that idea Alex. I saw a diff. T for 2 sessions, and my mind was completely opened up to other people for a while.
Yeah. And sometimes its hard to know how to broach stuff. Might be easier to figure out how to do that...
Posted by alexandra_k on August 22, 2005, at 6:08:49
In reply to Therapist exchange???, posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:54:05
Yeah okay so thats not going to work...
Am I crazy???
Oh yes indeedie ;-)
Still... That thought kept me happily amused for a while
Posted by cricket on August 22, 2005, at 11:00:56
In reply to Therapist exchange???, posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:54:05
Well, what I would really like is if I could take all my Babble friends with me into therapy.
You all would be invisible, and he would have no idea you were there, but you would see and hear everything. Then you could tell me what the h*ll is really going on, and what you all think of him. Because I just don't have the skills to figure this out on my own :(
Then it's also like a sneak preview. Imagine the privilege of being able to choose a therapist by secretly watching them practice on someone else.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2005, at 4:22:44
In reply to Re: Therapist exchange??? » alexandra_k, posted by cricket on August 22, 2005, at 11:00:56
You need a hidden video camera ;-)
Posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:43:49
In reply to Re: Therapist exchange??? » cricket, posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2005, at 4:22:44
Posted by annierose on August 23, 2005, at 17:45:46
In reply to Mine's up for grabs right now (nm), posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:43:49
Dinah -
What's going on? You don't sound like yourself.
Thinking of you,Annierose
Posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2005, at 17:49:01
In reply to Mine's up for grabs right now (nm), posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:43:49
Posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2005, at 17:50:08
In reply to Mine's up for grabs right now (nm), posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:43:49
(((Dinah)))
Though if I've got it right you feel suprisingly okay (or at least numb) about it all...How many sessions do you want to swap for???
;-)
Posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:55:13
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Dinah, posted by annierose on August 23, 2005, at 17:45:46
I'm absolutely not ok. But I have no particular idea why. I read him the posts on the thread about being afraid of losing the need. And he was pretty quiet about it, but said that his first overarching thought was that I was clearly struggling a lot right now, particularly with my feelings for him.
I don't know why that would upset me, but it did, and I came close to crying then shut down completely and left shortly after. I've no idea what he did wrong. He *did* completely forget the content of the five phone call messages I left him Friday, which irritated me and hurt me a bit. But that was earlier in the session and I didn't get upset then. He said he remembered that he had thought the last one contained a lot of insight, and he was impressed, but he didn't remember what it was I said. But it wasn't until later I got upset.
D*mned if I know why I do the things I do.
It might be the lack of food, but I wasn't hungry that early in the morning, so I don't know.
Posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:56:01
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Dinah, posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2005, at 17:50:08
Well wait. It depends who I'm swapping with.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2005, at 17:59:57
In reply to A month or two? » alexandra_k, posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:56:01
And how many times a week...
And this is assuming the therapists can be persuaded, of course :-)
Posted by annierose on August 23, 2005, at 21:16:13
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » annierose, posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 17:55:13
Dinah -
First off, I read the thread re: the "boob" comment. So funny, had to smile, so thank you for that unintentional blunder. Glad he took it with a grain of salt; you are on solid ground with your T.
Maybe it upset you when he verbalized your feelings that you were struggling? ... heard it outloud, confirming what you thought all along ... that he understood. I don't know.
At least now your sessions will move away from chit-chat into more content related topics ...
And, what's this about not eating. Twice today you mentioned lack of food.
Posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 22:33:35
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Dinah, posted by annierose on August 23, 2005, at 21:16:13
Oh, I'm refusing to take my internist's prescriptions for increased glucophage and Zocor. She mentioned, however, that if I lost fifteen pounds I would probably be ok without meds. So while I'm being noncompliant, I figured I'd best lose weight.
I hate it. I fussed at my son tonight and made him cry. You'd have thought I was my husband. I apologized of course, and had a long talk with him tonight about blood sugar levels. He was giggling by the end of it, so I guess it turned out ok.
I'm not ok about therapy. I'm seriously thinking of cancelling Friday. I don't know what it is he did wrong, but it sure was something important.
And after he was so nice about being called a boob. :(
Posted by Daisym on August 24, 2005, at 0:16:09
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » annierose, posted by Dinah on August 23, 2005, at 22:33:35
I don't think you should cancel. I think you should go and fight it out. Wasn't this part of the intensity you were wanting? Something is up, some shift is occuring. You would tell me to keep talking about it. Soo...
OH, and I just want to be sure that you don't mistake the heading here for an offer. Nope, I'm keeping mine right now. I'll let you know if that changes. But I kind of need him.
Posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 7:51:08
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Dinah, posted by Daisym on August 24, 2005, at 0:16:09
Oh no, I know yours isn't available. :)
I don't think I'm feeling intensity exactly. More of a cool spite and vengefulness. I seem to remember that whenever I woke up last night, I was thinking of ways to hurt myself to hurt him.
And I still can't figure out what it was that he did wrong.
Posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 7:52:01
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Daisym, posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 7:51:08
Posted by gardenergirl on August 24, 2005, at 11:24:53
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Daisym, posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 7:51:08
How about not remembering five (I assume) important phone calls? I would be mad about that.
I haven't been following, but that seems to indicate something, don't you think? I mean, he doesn't have to have a perfect memory, but the way you presented it, he was very casual about not remembering. That would infuriate me!
I hope you figure it out.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on August 24, 2005, at 11:26:20
In reply to Hmmm... Maybe a possible trigger above (nm) » Dinah, posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 7:52:01
Who wants to be my T?
You could have them all stay in one big house, and you could have as many sessions with them as you like. You would then eliminate them one by one until you find the best match!
What do y'all think? Who wants to be the first?
gg
Posted by fallsfall on August 24, 2005, at 11:49:16
In reply to New reality show?, posted by gardenergirl on August 24, 2005, at 11:26:20
Great idea!!!! I love it.
But I'll let someone else go first, I like my therapist right now.
Posted by fallsfall on August 24, 2005, at 11:53:33
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Daisym, posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 7:51:08
Dinah,
What is going on with meds and food etc.? This doesn't sound good to me.
If you won't need the meds if you lose 15 pounds, then lose 15 pounds and THEN stop taking them. Not taking the meds is dangerous and makes you crabby. Why would you want to do that? Just because your son "understands" that you may be moody because of your blood sugar doesn't mean that you should subject either him or yourself to that.
This feels a lot to me like when people say "I'm doing fine, so I'm going to stop my Lithium and my Prozac". This is not a good idea.
And starving yourself is the wrong way to lose weight. All that does is make you sick and weak.
And cancelling with your therapist... You know better than that. What happened to fighting to relationship??
I am concerned,
Falls.
Posted by Dinah on August 24, 2005, at 12:21:32
In reply to Re: Mine's up for grabs right now » Dinah, posted by fallsfall on August 24, 2005, at 11:53:33
These are brand new meds she wants me to start taking (or increased meds in one case, and a brand new one in one case). I wasn't taking them last week or last month, and I don't think it's urgent that I take triglyceride lowering drugs right away. And it's probably very very bad to increase my glucophage if my calorie intake is low. I probably should check my blood sugars occasionally with the glucophage as it is now. I might be dipping way too low. Which may be why I'm so unbelievably crabby.
I can't seem to be moderate in food intake. I've been trying for a year to lose those fifteen pounds, with no result. It's easier for me to eat nothing at all, practically, than to eat in moderation. So that's what I'm doing. Hopefully it will be short term. I've lost five pounds in five days, although part of it may be water weight.
And yes, there's probably a bit of expressed hostility in there as well. :) Anger at my internist.
As far as fighting to relationship, well, I think gg's on to something. I feel like he isn't doing much to fight for it right now, and that makes me feel like walking away. Since I genuinely am getting better and genuinely am needing him less.
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