Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 1111834

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From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on August 22, 2020, at 23:49:57

the latest coup.

Looking like the 1930s to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/13/bolivia-covid-19-coronavirus-deaths-mobile-crematorium

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on August 23, 2020, at 0:27:26

In reply to From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on August 22, 2020, at 23:49:57

Elon Musk was great. He tweeted 'So you're couped? Get over it.' The liberal imagination.

Lithium.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on August 23, 2020, at 2:16:53

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on August 23, 2020, at 0:27:26

Elon actually said, 'we will coup whoever we want.'

You can't argue with that.

The other night a series of lights of a length impossible to figure out went past my window, very straight, like a passenger train at night when you can only see the lights. That was him.

Nice bloke. May he go to Mars, and create soil there.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on August 27, 2020, at 6:54:18

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on August 23, 2020, at 2:16:53

One can only hope that what he wants is good and that he is a reasonable man.

Trump once said 'I can do whatever I want'. And, depending on what he wants, that may well be true. Of course, he is also probably one of the most accountable people in the world. He's got American Judges doing their best to indict him... And so on...

That first post... The mobile crematorium... It's horrific. I mean... I guess... Context is important. Context is everything. Whether things are done from love or whatever... It's just horrific to think of bodies being put out like trash. Sad. So sad. I mourn the loss of human potential. Each and every one of the bodies housed a person or someone on the way to being self-actualised or ... HOoked into collective consciousness.. Or something...

I am feeling very matrix about things these days... Cogs are turning in my mind. Things are clicking into place, somehow. Becoming woke. I think the kids say.

Game-changing. I don't know...

Feeling like I may get to go off to a school of my dreams... Find people who are like me, in some really important sense. Feeling more connected with the amazing people I have had the priviledge to have met at various points in my life.

It's something about the lines... Or two points. Getting closer and closer and also decelerating.

I had trouble with physics because acceleration was speed in a direction... So if you slow down enough then you change direction?? That was a worry I had...

But if the two points are getting closer and closer and also slower and slower... There is always another point that is closer... Because of what happens with the awful numbers that have decimal places. Fractured numbers... Fractional numbers...

But you can keep approaching and so long as you are going slower and slower space opens up.

Or something.

I don't know about the fractured number thing. But decimal numbers are horrifying. ANd fractions, generally. 1 is neutral (it's okay) for multiplication and divsion... 0 is neutral (it's okay) for addition and subtraction. Hmm.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on August 28, 2020, at 3:38:29

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on August 27, 2020, at 6:54:18

>Of course, he is also probably one of the most accountable people in the world.

He's appointed 300 judges? I watched the Kavanaugh hearings from beginning to end. My feeling was embarrassment, not for the US or the Supreme Court, just seeing him fake it so badly made me cringe.

Context is that the OAS organised the military to instruct Morales to leave or die.

There is a coup organised by people trained in the School of the Americas every second year.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on September 12, 2020, at 1:05:55

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on August 28, 2020, at 3:38:29

Anniversary of the coup against Allende, another 9/11, 1973 was it?

The sins of the fathers are visited upon the children.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2020, at 0:21:49

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on September 12, 2020, at 1:05:55

hmm... i don't know about these things.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on September 14, 2020, at 1:07:15

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2020, at 0:21:49

Happens in Portland every night. Policing was not always like this. The wars have come home to America's children.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2020, at 18:45:17

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on September 14, 2020, at 1:07:15

I watched something on YouTube with these kids outside playing with a football etc. It looked like fog. Foggy fog fog. Overcast day. Apparently it was air pollution.

The kids weren't worried. They said it was surprisingly easy to breathe. No troubles.

Of course asbestos probably smells lovely, too. It's the tiny little particles that get inhaled all the way down deep into your lungs precisely because they are so tiny... That clog things up. That provide a focus for cancer however many years later.

I imagined those kids on Youtube... 10 years from now, 20 years from now, 30 years from now... Being all 'yeah, years ago we watched the bombs explode and now we got Cancer'...

Playing in the fallout from the fires.

The world is a crazy place with ''natural disasters'' right now. For sure.

Started College Application. Figured it was the wrong pathway. Doh. Started College Application again... Sigh. I barely hardly dare hope...

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on September 15, 2020, at 14:58:30

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2020, at 18:45:17

https://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigation/the-costs-of-war/

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:24:37

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on September 15, 2020, at 14:58:30

That was interesting.

What to do with all the people? All the people... The exponential population growth.

I don't understand how they do the math when it comes to the cost of war and the like. I don't believe them, basically.

There are issues around not being able to scale things up.

So, for example, you can't just go 'there's a whole college of studnets we are sending off to war -- why not open a college for them instead of sending them off'. The amount of expertise and organisational capacity and the like...

The focus on natural disaster within the US helps re-focus the view of the military as being for civil defence. Polite individuals who say 'sir and ma'am' and who have self-control in the face of being taunted by civilians and the like.

I don't know how much military is involved in helping overseas nations develop. Building infrastructure like airports and railways and roads. How much engineering expertise and skilled labor is done (e.g., in Germany and now perhaps in Italy??) by the US military. I don't know.

I don't know how much people volunteer or have some say or some choice in certain things... High risk things. I mean to say. Sometimes things are... Covered up?? Um.. Sometimes people want to end their life but in a face-saving way. Sometimes things turn sour. Sometimes people don't know how to deal...

I know people join the Military for the promised benefits -- that often don't eventuate. Join the Military for 4 years and we'll grant you citizenship was the latest I heard. Some Kiwi ex-pat saying he did just that. He subsequently married a US citizen and has kids in the US and doesn't need to leave. He said he was voting with his US veterans papers... But turns out he was never given citizenship actually and actually shouldn't have been voting.

4 years service for citizenship?

That doesn't seem fair... That seems too good to be true. I would say. But that was what was promised. And that was reneged.

If you join a health insurance plan with a pre-existing condition then you don't get coverage for the pre-existing. That's a given. If you join the military for the family benefits... Well... It sounds like taking out life insurance, really, doesn't it. I'm not sure what to say...

The hospital thing is tricky... Shame on the Mayo Clinic. You should be able to refer people... Somewhere...

I don't know what to say...

It's terrible.

Want to hear a story about here? Universities refuse to process applications to enrol, refuse to examine theses submitted for examination, refuse to grade to international standards (blind and objective) preferring to give high grades to children of doctors and senior officials. Universities here refuse to confer qualifications when conditions for them have been met. Universities here are all public relying on handouts from the government. Universities here are very very very very corrupt and inept. Want to come live here. Want to try and 'work' to advance in this system?

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:30:09

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:24:37

The Government, here. The Government Departments and Ministries. The City Councils. The Government stuff... The salaries they authorise for themselves... Half a million dollars per year to be vice chancellor of a public university. More than half a million dollars per year to be head of 'water-care'. The salaries given to people who are on boards of directors for public things like the district health boards. THe millions and millions and millions of dollars that are constantly hemorrhaged by the government as it hands out hands out hands out constantly hands out to these people...

While I (for example) am expected to continually cry and moan and whinge and complain about how I don't have habitable housing. I don't have enough to eat.

While the people paid millions upon millions upon millions to do this, that, and the other job are incompetent and inept. Cannot do it. Lacking basic skills. Lacking common sense. Lacking basic sense of morality. Inept and incopetent and personally responsible for holding back the development of NZ since... Forever.

Just a f*ck*ng joke of a country.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:42:00

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:30:09

I didn't actually realise until relatively recently that many war veterans are actually relatively young.

I mean, I pictured war veterans as being older. Retired. Reminiscing about wars past.

I have only recently become aware of veterans as young men (still) who joined maybe when they were 18 or 21 (I forget) for maybe 4 years (so they are maybe 22 or 25) and... Expecting?? The things they were promised with their present status as war veterans.

I know there are veterans hospitals. I heard that buerocracy is a problem. That things take forever to happen in that system. But I don't know anything more about it.

I don't even know what the main business is, of the veterans hospitals. Are they for veterans only or for family members also? Are they for war-related-injuries kind of like how NZ has ACC for work-and-home-accident-injuries? Or for medical stuff as well? I don't know. I suppose it mostly is not orthopedics and prostheses and injury rehabilitation. I don't know.

A lot seems to depend on what State you are in... I was very surprised to learn that Idaho doesn't have a Medical School. Relies on graduates of elsewhere. That seems... Not good. That's not good. That Idaho isn't developed as a state to have a Medical School and to train Doctors. That would be like if NZ didn't have... Would it be worse? Depends on the quality of what you have got, I suppose... I don't know...

I don't know.

I do know I'm sick to death of trying to help NZ Develop. NZ doesn't want to develop. It likes to be a sh*t-hole. Many people are making mega-bucks off of it just the way that it is. They love having their in-bred children selected for the money and the titles and the esteem.... Just like what England wanted to be, however many years ago...

It's tiresome and tedious trying to point out or relate obvious sh*t that was developed years and years and years ago overseas. I'm tired of it. I want to be part of leading the world, again. The forefront of things. The excitement of watching the new stuff unfold. Having a say in direction. Working with intelligent and kind and motivated individuals.

Here people are huddling in their bunkers with their money.

It's obscene.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:46:09

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:42:00

And it's just about trading and swapping. We have however many people we accept in the name of them being 'refugees' and they want to come here and we want them to come here. SOmetimes we let some of them integrate well enough to give them places in medical school and stuff like that.

Great.

So I get to go, then. Someplace that values me. We got a bunch of people from India and China and from who-knows-where that we decided to integrate as refugees... Typically something along the lines of a trade. I think it is something like 'we'll take 2 people who were traines as Doctors and Engineers overseas and we will not give them professional employment for the remainder of their life... And in exchange we will provide grades and training place and job for 1 of their kids to professional career in NZ'. I think that might be the nature of our 'refugee' trade.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 16:33:23

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:46:09

I mean, I know a good job for Alex... She can devote her life to academics in Australasia and her reward can be a judge declares that 'when a Public University of NZ receives an application to enrol -- they are required to process it according to the regulations that they made up for themselves and publish every year in their Calendar that they wrote'.

Wowzers.

Leading the world, NZ.

Nearly discovered the function of writing.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on September 15, 2020, at 22:08:40

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 15:24:37

37 million displaced doesn't include the Americas. Maybe another 10 million (wild uninformed guess) there from the coups, NAFTA, client states, war on drugs and the other policies designed to preserve our revenue stream and self image.

I assume white genocide anxiety is projected guilt. If we are to talk about population controls......... I started to read 'The Great Replacement' by the Christchurch shooter.....'these historic lands will always be ours' and so on. Time to lecture the Chinese about democracy.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 23:06:04

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on September 15, 2020, at 22:08:40

sigh.

i recently learned the UAE was middle eastern. United Arab Emirates. I thought 'Emirates' airlines was Indian. I didn't know.

so the US has stopped trying to play nice with Iran. Investing in Iran hasn't helped peace in the middle-east. So trade deal with UAE and... Some place I've never heard of. An idea that that might better promote peace in the middle-east.

I don't really understand about international politics.

I would like to visit Israel before I die. Experience what it is like to be in the promised land for Jewish people -- as a person who isn't Jewish. Israel is supposed to be the promised land for the Palestines? Is that true? The Palestines, too? Is that right? Are the Palestines and the Jewish people antagonistic? Something like that...

It is about...

It is about crying one thing when you are losing and singing a different tune when you are winning. It's a... Two mindedness. Hypocracy. I'm not quite sure what. It gets me thinking... To moderate. Moderate, yeah, the trauma story. To keep it in check. Also a kind of paying it forward... For the privaledge or advantage that you get...

I mean to say that the Holocaust was horrible... But how many Jewish people would do that to some other group if they thought they could get away with it...

I suppose I might look kind of Jewish. I have a nose. Dark hair. I don't know that I would pass for Jewish amongst Jews. But I would like to experience the holy land for the Jews as a non-Jewish person. To see if it is the promised land... Generally...

Or... If it is like Germany was, for a time there, for the Aryan people. When everything seemed to go their way. In their favor.

Does this make sense?

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by sigismund on September 15, 2020, at 23:37:07

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 15, 2020, at 23:06:04

I couldn't bear those American Jews in Israel who talk about God's will and use it to rob the Palestinians.

Gaza would be interesting enough.

Just the latest imperial project.

The UAE is a slave state, for the non arabs?

 

Re: From the scene of the crime sigismund

Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2020, at 6:03:27

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by sigismund on September 15, 2020, at 23:37:07

> The UAE is a slave state, for the non arabs?

I don't know.

Shall I tell you about the delusion that I developed? After 2 weeks of isolating myself in a bubble of 1 in our second lock-down. I was working on the integrated document for the courts about the University of Auckland refusing to process my application to Medicine...

I started to feel like / it started to become like the helecopters associated with the hospital were doing poison drops. I maybe started to hallucinate. Or read too much into the fog that would come over the land in the evenings... But I started to think that they were intentionally trying to poison the masses with nerve gas or who knows what. We (those in the know, those following public health advise) would have their N95 masks... Their 3 layers of bedding... To create an oxygen chamber for themselves in their beds at night to try and get enough oxygen to not smother to death in their sleep while avoiding the build up of the latest generations of biological warfare agents being dropped from the skies...

The underground... There is a system or series of chambers linking various hospital buildings underground. It isn't far-fetched to suppose there is something of a bunker of sorts. A refuge. In times of war. That's how come they bomb hospitals. For the bomb shelters underneath. The political people who are wanted for their crimes against humanity choose to hide themselves in bunkers under childrens hospitals and the like. There are tunnels underground linking various University buildings to the hospital buildings. To the anatomy laboratories. To the morgue. Etc.

I started to think I could hear screams in the night. I started to think they were chopping up bodies under the ground and you could hear the people screaming. People drunk on the power of their own unlimited power. People in some frenzied Dionysis... Drunken Orgy God... Sawing up people to... To feed them to the cattle.

Contamination of the food supply chain. The heavy heavy trucks. The trucks that are too heavy to be on the roads. But the cheapity cheap cheap cheap driving contract means that people will drive the heavy trucks on the roads ruining them. Over the briges ruining them. Driving their trucks of medical contaminated sewerage to feed it to the animals to feed the animals to the people... The weird contamination of the supply chain... Human excrement sprayed on fields as fertiliser... The mass contamination of everything by people drunk with their own unlimited power... The demented laughter of them drunk with their power...

I could hear them in the small of the night.

I could hear them and their bone saws.

I could hear them from deep under the ground.

There's a building in the ''Domain''. It's a park by the Hospital in Auckland. It's like some Medical Doctor Drunk with power... There's these greek statues that are trying to look classical and classy but they just look arrogant and pretentious...

The Museum building...

I don't know how or why...

I was looking for a place to practice yoga during the lock-down. I was getting to yoga. Sun salutations, particularly. The combination of forwards bending and backwards bending was seeming to straighten me out somewhat. There was low-lying ground I could do yoga on -- but why practice yoga in the swamp? I hiked up the hill to the museum and since it was closed with the lockdown practiced some yoga on the steps there, overlooking the water...

Later...

After the delusions / hallucinations of the morning... I walked with fresh eyes.

I was worshipping the sun.

Doing sun salutations on the steps of the museum.

The museum building overlooks a war memorial. Is there a mass burial underneath the war memorial? Are there piles of bones there? I could hear rumbling in the ground.

I looked at the frieze pattern around the museum building.

The official line is it is classical greek.

But no.

I'm thinking Egypt.

Egyptian.

The drunken God... Bacchus??

I'm thinking worshiping the sun...

I'm thinking...

I'm seeing...

I'm seeing frieze patterns of slaves. I'm seeing men being kept as slaves. Them with shovels. Shovels to... Bury each other? Shovels to dig out the underground chambers under the museum?

What kind of burial mound... What kind of weird tomb? What kind of sick f*ck*ng sick f*ck*d up ness is there in NZ???

What kind of sick f*ck*d up ness is there behind the practice of Medicine and Surgery in New Zealand?

That was the nature of my lock-down delusion / hallucination.

And also elements of Baulder's Gate III. How the studio was saying they wanted to show the world what an evil party could be like.. Because there was criticism that Critical Role etc always play the heroes and nobody knows how to play an evil party without it simply imploding. What is evil? So they developed the game and wanted people to play the beta trying out evil options...

And because Cohh... Took his son... IN the night... LIkely without his wife's permission... His son called 'kai' (Maaori for 'food' though I don't know that he knows that) and held him up to the wall of screens in his house to show the viewers... His tiny newborn infant son... WHo opened black and hollow eyes... There's something wrong about all those lights in tiny infant eyes...

Born on TV.

There was something Bubble baby... The Trueman show about it.

Was I born on TV?

My Mother had a TV from before I was born...

Seeing some of the advertisements I saw for products not in our stores yet.

The advertisements from Californian companies trying to teach the kids to be tyrants to their parents demanding toys and things...

I saw those... But I never had those products in the stores...

Horrible nightmares.

When I was in hospital... Briefly. Occasionally... Momentarily.. I would let out a very brief scream of mortal terror. ANd then it would pass.

Not very pleasant.


 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2020, at 6:11:32

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime sigismund, posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2020, at 6:03:27

And thats something of my confession to you. Shudder. Because I don't know why, maybe it will lose it's grip on me. It's power. With the articulation. The articulation of something that retains power only by way of shameful secret and burden I must bear alone.

Sharing it will losen it's grip it's power on me.

It was a horrible thought / feeling.

But it is tied up in slavery, yeah. And related to how NZ treats many of it's people as slaves. Graduate students. Some of them. There are a few chosen people whose path or way is expediated. And there are masses and masses of slaves...

The friezes...

One of the pictures was that upright wheel thing. You chain cattle to it to walk around in circles turning it. But there were people tied to it. Turning it. For whatever purpose. That's slavery. There. On the frieze. That is celebrated as a work of Art.

And the things within teh museum seem obscene to me now, too. Stolen from the people who produced them. PRoduced by slaves. The weavings and the like from Pacific Islands etc.

And knowing that most of the artifacts are in private collections.

Trophy Hunters. There's something trophy about it.

I wonder how many people in the world actually have human heads as trophy's in their underground bunkers or whatever.

Just because they can.

Many people are really really really really really really f*ck*d up.

I had no idea until I started to want to study Medicine. ANd I learned a little something about what motivates most people.

Yeah.

 

Re: From the scene of the crime

Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2020, at 6:20:26

In reply to Re: From the scene of the crime, posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2020, at 6:11:32

https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/discover/collections/topics/the-auckland-museum-frieze-scenes-of-war

It's not showing the slavery-themed ones.

It's opressive art of slavery. A celebration of slavery and mass death.

https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/collection/object/am_library-photography-53440

This guy, taking a piss on the world on the front gate.

The art in the Medical School.

A series of black and white pictures... Two men taking pictures of a woman. She's posing like a ballarena. But in one of them her head has been lopped off. Guess they got sick of playing with her.

There was no note to say who produced it or anything about how or why it was produced. It was solely an expression of power.

It was removed when the VC was removed last year.

A blades sculpture. A staircase of dissecting blades. Ominous. Oppressive. No artist note. It was not a work of art.

It was removed when the VC was removed last year.

Now you look out the window and see this monstrosoty building in this gardens that is supposed to be idylic... In some Adams Family monstrosity kind of a sick and distorted f*ck*d up Baccus God kind of a way...

Yeah...


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