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Re: Let First Dog help us

Posted by beckett2 on January 26, 2020, at 22:30:59

In reply to Let First Dog help us, posted by sigismund on January 26, 2020, at 20:57:28

> I'm unclear why they are so keen on their money. They will not live forever nor for as long as they think. The joys of being a caste apart, of being achievers, lifters not leaners, having a go to get a go, not the tragic view of life at all.
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/26/what-does-scott-morrison-mean-when-he-says-if-you-have-a-go-you-will-get-a-go

Misplaced self-esteem, sadism, compulsion? Control (sadism?).

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by beckett2 on January 26, 2020, at 22:52:40

In reply to Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 25, 2020, at 14:31:06

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEOBu0r47YY
>
> on climate

This is nicely done.

Eco-terrorism is a federal offense just in time for climate activism.

 

Re: Tim Minchin » alexandra_k

Posted by beckett2 on January 26, 2020, at 22:54:11

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2020, at 23:10:42

>F*ck*ng psychopaths

exactly :(

 

Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 26, 2020, at 22:57:27

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 26, 2020, at 18:49:30

>It is so humid, god knows what it will be like with another couple of degrees. The east coast has an awful climate.

Will most people move to the coastal areas except for the south? The population would fit.

I thought the worst climate was your north-west coast? Very hot and impossibly humid year-round if I understand correctly.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 27, 2020, at 0:04:15

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by beckett2 on January 26, 2020, at 22:52:40

>Eco-terrorism is a federal offense

The government, the Coalition and the mining industry should be liable then.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 27, 2020, at 0:08:20

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 26, 2020, at 22:57:27

>I thought the worst climate was your north-west coast?

The north coast of Western Australia is very dry, except in the rainy season.

The east coast gets more humid the further north you go.

South Australia is dry. Tasmania is cool. Pity about what's going to happen there because it is unique in Australia.

Inland can be better. Canberra has a nice climate.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 22:53:00

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 27, 2020, at 0:08:20

Canberra was nice and dry, but fairly hot. If you tried to shuffle the air around (open a car window or start up a fan) it would just blow hot air around. You could feel the air sucking the moisture out of your eyeballs. I started to get sick in Canberra... And learned that people can't live off of Coca Cola. Seriously. You have to drink water. Actual water. To stay hydrated. Seriously.

Auckland is swampy. We have mosquitos at night. I think the sewers in the city collect sewerage in a sort of a sump fashion until the contractors water blast it along for treatment / disposal. So you get a build up of smell. NOt just when it rains. Just over time. You get a build up of smell from the sewers in the city. Something something about open pipes and the overflow is actually designed to run over into storm-water. So the smell of sewerage coming out the storm-water vents all about the city.

By the hospital. Which is charming (not).

Sigh.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 22:57:32

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 22:53:00

Humidity is awful. When you get a layer of sweat / slime and it doesn't evaporate properly.

I am a very glandular person. Sucks. Best thing that ever happened for my glands was a massive dose of vitamin A. It felt to me like what I really really wanted was a less massive dose of vitamin A over a much much longer period of time... Only massive doses of vitamin A are teratogenic so they didn't want to give me large doses of vitamin A over longer periods of time...

But large doses of vitamin A shrunk my glands. So I produced less sweat. Which is not a bad thing when your sweat can't evaporate, in the climate, it just lies on your skin / in your glands blocking up all your pores and creating cysts...

I sweat more than most people, so far as I can tell. I'm kinda hairy too. I guess that's what all the glandular secretions are for, to keep my pelt shiny. Only I'm a girl so I methodically remove my pelt only to create blocked pores. Sigh.

Nasty climate.

Sigh.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 23:00:26

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 22:57:32

Yes, it was nice and dry in Canberra (compared to swampier climates of Auckland and Australia and even NOrth Carolina) -- but you do gotta drink water.

I remember those perfect nights... Around 2 or 3 in the morning and the air would be the same temperature as blood... Or the same temperature as peripheral limbs... Or whatever... Just a perfect temperature so no thermoregulation was required. It felt like it. Just sitting in the perfect temperature.

I don't ever remember feeling so naturally happy in my climate / environment.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 27, 2020, at 23:34:08

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 23:00:26

Wellington surprised me. A cool if moist climate can result in a lot of mould. I'm used to humidity being associated with heat.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:42:05

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 27, 2020, at 23:34:08

> Wellington surprised me. A cool if moist climate can result in a lot of mould. I'm used to humidity being associated with heat.

Thats what the climate is like in the redwoods. Seasonally cool (not cold). Lots of mould. But the groves and mountains are drying up.

 

Re: Tim Minchin » alexandra_k

Posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:47:25

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2020, at 22:57:32

>But large doses of vitamin A shrunk my glands. So I produced less sweat. Which is not a bad thing when your sweat can't evaporate, in the climate, it just lies on your skin / in your glands blocking up all your pores and creating cysts...

Is being a champion sweater connected to an inability to tolerate heat?

Ive been close to heatstroke a few times (in the southern Midwest.)

 

Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:49:01

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 27, 2020, at 0:08:20

> >I thought the worst climate was your north-west coast?
>
> The north coast of Western Australia is very dry, except in the rainy season.
>
> The east coast gets more humid the further north you go.
>
> South Australia is dry. Tasmania is cool. Pity about what's going to happen there because it is unique in Australia.
>
> Inland can be better. Canberra has a nice climate.

I was thinking of Darwin.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 28, 2020, at 14:19:59

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:49:01

Up there (Darwin) they have a big wet season and the dry season. Some people go to Kakadu.

Old looking rocks, hey?

https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1354&bih=747&ei=HZcwXojzJ6SFmgeO8JLYDg&q=kakadu&oq=kakadu&gs_l=img.3..0l10.1112.4017..5749...0.0..0.210.1004.0j5j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i131.ZU39UR0io_I&ved=0ahUKEwjI9eDujqfnAhWkguYKHQ64BOsQ4dUDCAU&uact=5#imgrc=gB-vTHEovGXjHM:

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 28, 2020, at 14:25:32

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » alexandra_k, posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:47:25

>Is being a champion sweater connected to an inability to tolerate heat?

When the heat is combined with humidity. Without humidity you need to drink a lot of water, but it is not so uncomfortable (for me).

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 28, 2020, at 14:34:30

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:42:05

The northern half of Australia tends to get rain in the summer, and the southern part has more of its rain in the winter.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by sigismund on January 28, 2020, at 14:39:04

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 28, 2020, at 14:34:30

So we're alright here for now as far as fire is concerned.

It puzzles me that temperatures in Victoria should now be around 45C in parts. Maybe the hot dry air from the centre flows down there?

 

Re: Tim Minchin » Beckett2

Posted by alexandra_k on January 28, 2020, at 20:31:00

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on January 27, 2020, at 23:49:01

Where are redwoods? Northern California? I don't know why I am thinking Oregon? I don't even know where Oregon is...

I think my being glandular might be more likely to make me relatively heat tolerant and cold intolerant. I suppose that is correct. I complain about the cold more than most people do. I complain about the heat about as much as most people -- but I tend to over-dress more than most people because I am self conscious about being hairy.

It's a silly sort of self conscious. I'm not hursit. I probably would be really hairy if I was a guy, though. I think I was maybe 5 and some kid pointed out that my arms were really hairy (and theirs were hairless) and then I got self conscious about it and never wore short sleeves again for the next... Few decades. Or similar...

I just mean that the heat knocked me in Canberra similarly to everyone else but they were in short shorts or short skirts and tank tops while I was in jeans and t-shirts or layers of gym gear.

I actually quite liked the Dunedin climate. If I had a house with a heat pump then I didn't mind that climate at all.

It is hard to compare to 'sunny sunny sunny sunny sunny' Canberra, though. And, again, those summer nights where the air temperature is just perfect.

But it would get so hot during the day that you would get mirage distortion. And the air would get sucked out of your eyeballs. Yeah.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 28, 2020, at 20:33:52

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » Beckett2, posted by alexandra_k on January 28, 2020, at 20:31:00

it is mould in the cold and fungus in the warm.

Apparently that is actually true.

So the same species that grows as a mould on the wall of your bathroom in the cold leaky house... Will grow as a fungus in your lungs.

They have two different morphologies / life phases or whatever.

As a mould they are relatively slow growing.

As a fungus they form fruiting bodies so as to seed little spores of fungus about your body.

Fungus particularly likes to live in little holes made by tuberculosis.

I think NZ is likely doing observational studies trying to contribute to the mycology literature.

There is a page on different fungus you find it different parts of the US...

Not sure what we have here. I have been going on about aspergillus -- but I don't know that that is the one that has been growing in people's houses. I think it's a different one...

 

Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund

Posted by alexandra_k on January 28, 2020, at 20:41:14

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by sigismund on January 28, 2020, at 14:39:04

I think so, from the air currents.

It is the humidity and the wind chill that people forget about in New Zealand.

It looks like our temperatures will be perfectly pleasant so people don't think that it is important to inquire into things like whether there is heating or air conditioning or ventillation. You think that things will be fine, or that we will have developed nation air conditioning to deal with things if things aren't fine.

But we don't deal with the things and the things aren't fine.

The humidity means that you use lots and lots and lots and lots of energy to try and heat up your cold house. The humidity means that you can't effectively lose heat from inside your body by sweating. Losing heat by sweating requires the sweat to evaporate which it will only do when the humidity is relatively low.

So it makes the cold feel colder. And it makes the heat feel hotter.

I have a shower now and I'm dripping wet. I use a towel to towel off and eventually I realise that I'm not toweling myself any dryier I'm simply pushing sweat around over the surface of my body and I'm sweaty and I need another shower already. It's pretty gross.

But I don't have an air conditioner because that would be a silly use of money by my landlord / by the government.

They would rather do a study on the long term effects of substanadard living conditions.

I mean -- why wouldn't you if you thought you could get away with it?

Why on earth not?

 

First Dog

Posted by sigismund on January 29, 2020, at 13:03:53

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund, posted by alexandra_k on January 28, 2020, at 20:41:14

This is the unfortunate truth, and look at our bloody government, nothing but spin and deception, they couldn't lie straight in bed.

Margaret Thatcher was right. Those policies changed our soul, as was seen in the last election result.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/29/a-billion-creatures-have-died-the-climate-is-transformed-it-is-impossible-to-understand

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2020, at 23:18:27

In reply to First Dog, posted by sigismund on January 29, 2020, at 13:03:53

that was a good cartoon. accurate.
the politicians will not fund social services. they will not fund hope. they will only fund those who say we have no hope and who advocate their message that hope must always be idle (or at least unfunded).

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2020, at 23:26:17

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin » sigismund, posted by alexandra_k on January 28, 2020, at 20:41:14

It is like medical specialists accreditation programs require that...

Well...

For instance...

3 specialists for a functional unit.

(that way 1 specialist is off-call at all times).

And the DHB says 'we will give you 3 x 0.75 positions and run a specialist unit'.

And some (the unemployable, really) say 'okay yeah sure totally alright'.

And then the support staff are not within 20 minutes of the hospital when they know they are on-call because the KNOW the specialist on call is not going to take ANY calls right now.

So the whole thing falls over.

ANd we wait....

3 generations?

More?

FOr the people to understnand what

'3 specialists for a functional unit' really...

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeans'

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2020, at 23:35:02

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2020, at 23:26:17

Apparently China is offering to build us a hospital.

You know, since we are totally incapable of building a hospital ourselves.

What do you meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean that radiology and pathology and surgery and whatever have actual REQUIREMENTS on the facilities that are needed for trained specialists to work in them?

Surely we can just hire untrained specialists.

Surely we can negotiate or talk them down. You know...

The pilot safety flight check program means that the pilot needs to check off certain things before take-off..

But, you know, we can totally hire someone willing to fly into the twin towers for...

Well, for paying us.

Say the politicans.

Yee Haww.

Where did they think they were going to get to go with all the money they stole, again?

It's f*ck*ng beyond me.

 

Re: Tim Minchin

Posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2020, at 23:43:16

In reply to Re: Tim Minchin, posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2020, at 23:35:02

so not so long ago the Prime Minster of New Zealand needed her wisdom teeth extracted.

I don't think the billings department managed to extract sufficient public funding for sufficient wisdom tooth extraction for us all...

We did not deport her for her dental extraction...

Whats teh f*ck*ng story -- again?

Recently there is Coronavirus from China.

Revealing how we do not have sufficient infrastructure to protect against anything at all.

We do not have infrared scanning in the airports (to detect that some people have started an immune response to something serious).

We do not have pathology services to run DNA samples on people being found (by, uh, Medical Student VOlunteers???? To be running temperatures???

We just, uh, cannot do anything, anything, anything at all. Not the most basic of things, at all, in the face of serious outbreak.

Wah wah poor us

Cry out politicians.

Feed us.

Their hands are out.

While they earn what portion of a million bucks, again, for their f*ck*ng ineptitude and incimpetence and inability / unwillingness to follow the most simple of instructions.

F*ck*ng idiots exterminating us all.

Welcome to this hellhole people like to call New Zealand


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