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Re: Culture War

Posted by sigismund on January 2, 2020, at 21:55:09

In reply to Re: Culture War » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 2, 2020, at 19:57:04

A big navy boat which can lift off a thousand has been sent.

 

Re: Where's your shame,

Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 1:09:55

In reply to Re: Where's your shame, » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 1, 2020, at 23:39:07

>What are you referencing?

The fires in Victoria and New South Wales, and associated weather events. Currently the burned area is said to be the size of Denmark plus the Netherlands. I'm just ad libbing. I did have this good book in mind.

"The Biggest Estate on Earth" Bill Gammadge. (Not linked at Amazon. The most important book about Australia I have read.) Everything really.

 

Re: Where's your shame, » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 3, 2020, at 15:43:30

In reply to Re: Where's your shame,, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 1:09:55

The fire tornado that flipped the truck there. I understand what you mean now. There was a massive fire tornado over Redding (I believe) during the Carr Fire in California, the one that killed 90. Like your Black Saturday. Throwing embers miles away.

I read that the US and Canada are sending firefighters. The article also commented the reversal of fire seasons between the hemisphere is convenient. Which I took as dark humor, although it wasn't meant as such.

We're sending thousands of troops to Iran. Throw the military at the problem. Maybe this will not happen. Mr. T has reversed course multiple times. Not what he campaigned on but his followers are pretty adaptable. Thank you W.

 

Re: Where's your shame,

Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 20:29:35

In reply to Re: Where's your shame, » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 3, 2020, at 15:43:30

Nice to see Bette Midler about.

Pity the poor #Australians, their country ablaze, and their rotten @ScottMorrisonMP saying, This is not the time to talk about Climate Change. We have to grow our economy. What an idiot. What good is an economy in an uninhabitable country? Lead, you fuckwit!!

 

Re: Where's your shame, » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 3, 2020, at 20:34:00

In reply to Re: Where's your shame,, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 20:29:35

I saw that :) gave me a laugh. Need one.

 

Even Bernie!

Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 20:34:52

In reply to Re: Where's your shame, » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 3, 2020, at 20:34:00

https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/bette-midler-takes-to-twitter-against-australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison-ng-b881424356z

 

Re: Even Bernie!

Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 20:37:46

In reply to Even Bernie!, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 20:34:52

If there were any shame there would be resignation of party and PM for not keeping the nation safe and wasting 10 (or 20) years of invaluable time.

 

Re: Even Bernie! » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 3, 2020, at 20:45:32

In reply to Even Bernie!, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 20:34:52

> https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/bette-midler-takes-to-twitter-against-australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison-ng-b881424356z
>

This page isn't loading well.

 

Re: Even Bernie!

Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 21:54:22

In reply to Re: Even Bernie! » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 3, 2020, at 20:45:32

The page ends with a Bernie tweet saying that climate is the concern of everyone and that we particularly now need a green new deal.

Everyone's favourite grumpy grandpa.

 

mene mene tekel upharsin (nm)

Posted by sigismund on January 4, 2020, at 21:09:04

In reply to Re: Even Bernie!, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2020, at 21:54:22

 

Re: mene mene tekel upharsin

Posted by sigismund on January 4, 2020, at 22:30:23

In reply to mene mene tekel upharsin (nm), posted by sigismund on January 4, 2020, at 21:09:04

This might be the biggest shift in opinion since 1972.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/04/the-pain-and-terror-of-these-bushfires-cannot-be-held-in-a-single-human-heart

 

Re: mene mene tekel upharsin » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 4, 2020, at 23:00:25

In reply to Re: mene mene tekel upharsin, posted by sigismund on January 4, 2020, at 22:30:23

> This might be the biggest shift in opinion since 1972.
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/04/the-pain-and-terror-of-these-bushfires-cannot-be-held-in-a-single-human-heart
>

Your country is the bellwether. Best of luck to you and all of us.

 

Re: mene mene tekel upharsin » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 4, 2020, at 23:03:09

In reply to Re: mene mene tekel upharsin, posted by sigismund on January 4, 2020, at 22:30:23

And thank ABC. I watch that channel on youtube. Guardian said Murdoch maligns it and the funding is cut, but bless them for keeping the emergency airwaves broadcasting information and updates.

 

Re: mene mene tekel upharsin

Posted by sigismund on January 5, 2020, at 12:40:20

In reply to Re: mene mene tekel upharsin » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 4, 2020, at 23:00:25

The Spectacle is losing its touch. The litany of self praise continues but in the wrong key. Why are they getting it so wrong? Listen to the ad in this. It is really something.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/04/scott-morrisons-political-ad-is-a-bizarre-act-of-self-love-as-firefighters-battle-to-save-australia

 

Re: mene mene tekel upharsin

Posted by sigismund on January 5, 2020, at 13:00:24

In reply to Re: mene mene tekel upharsin » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 4, 2020, at 23:03:09

They continually attack the ABC, then demand that it be privatised, since it is elitist. Like museums and orchestras and roads, what else is left these days?

 

the hour is upon us

Posted by beckett2 on January 5, 2020, at 20:04:23

In reply to Re: mene mene tekel upharsin, posted by sigismund on January 5, 2020, at 13:00:24

While your country burns, trump lives up to all our fears. Let us truly pray.

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by sigismund on January 6, 2020, at 16:11:38

In reply to the hour is upon us, posted by beckett2 on January 5, 2020, at 20:04:23

There will be rain, but this may happen just about everywhere eventually. And there is so much to burn here. Canberra burned some time back. We have been fortunate so far not to have had a mass casualty event.

Once conservatives were not nihilists, were careful. If they made mistakes they made amends. Malcolm Fraser was Army minister during the Vietnam war. When the refugees, thousands of them came by boat, they were all welcomed with bipartisan support.

Recently Tony Abbott. has been in Israel giving lectures on the climate cult, the threat from Islam and immigration. 'Cutting emissions is like sacrificing goats to appease the volcano gods.' Makes me think of the Aryan death cult.

The common thread seems to be that we should be able to do exactly as we like with no restraint. I can imagine Chris Hedges calling this heresy. Everything is culture war. When Rudd's daughter moved with the family to The Lodge in 2007 they found one thing left behind in the DVD player.....something like The Great Global Warming conspiracy. And Howard was more reality based than this lot.

 

Re: the hour is upon us » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on January 6, 2020, at 18:53:33

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us, posted by sigismund on January 6, 2020, at 16:11:38

> Recently Tony Abbott. has been in Israel giving lectures on the climate cult, the threat from Islam and immigration. 'Cutting emissions is like sacrificing goats to appease the volcano gods.' Makes me think of the Aryan death cult.
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There is something perverse about the lot, isn't there? Nilhism alone doesn't describe it.


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> The common thread seems to be that we should be able to do exactly as we like with no restraint.
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This is an affliction in which amercians excel. In sum, 'no one can tell me what to do'.

Many Californians are watching your bushfires with horror. The Carr fire was a pyrocumulonimbus event. Four hours start to finish, and the town was gone, shooting embers miles away, like your recent bushfires and Black Saturday (in Victoria?). California is so densely populated, and our winter is shaping up to be dry.

Interestingly, Russia has said they will adapt to climate change. So they acknowledge the existence but not the cause. To say outright it is Anthropocene would give up hydrocarbon sales.

Morrison is toast, I'm almost certain. Who might be in the running? Now, if we could only dump trump...

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by sigismund on January 6, 2020, at 21:46:07

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on January 6, 2020, at 18:53:33

>Morrison is toast, I'm almost certain. Who might be in the running?

We have seen through him.

The ALP was spooked by Queensland and Adani, so not them really.

There's Dutton.

There is an opening for someone to seize the moment. It will happen eventually.

The coal thing shouldn't be so difficult. No new thermal coal mines ever. Phase out the existing ones. Real support and jobs for those who have to change. Coking coal is different, I think.

The area burned here is huge, but the fires may not be worse than the Californian ones. They moved pretty fast.

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by sigismund on January 9, 2020, at 15:16:01

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us, posted by sigismund on January 6, 2020, at 21:46:07

There is an embarrassment of riches in Isfahan.

https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1354&bih=747&ei=D5cXXtC2Ifaf4-EP3rSDwA4&q=isfahan&oq=isfahan&gs_l=img.3..0l10.669.5970..7457...0.0..0.799.1810.0j6j6-1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.wDjz1VJm0P4&ved=0ahUKEwiQ-oOmt_fmAhX2zzgGHV7aAOgQ4dUDCAU&uact=5#imgrc=ZtK5cgvxkANFUM:

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by sigismund on January 9, 2020, at 15:33:22

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us, posted by sigismund on January 9, 2020, at 15:16:01

One of Counterpunch's virtues is publishing writings by a wide group of people including Andrew Bacevich, self described as Republican, conservative and Judeo-Christian.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/09/a-report-card-on-the-american-project/

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by sigismund on January 9, 2020, at 15:35:50

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us, posted by sigismund on January 9, 2020, at 15:33:22

We may all recall this......

Then, in 1988, a year prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall, in testimony before Congress, NASA scientist James Hansen issued a far more alarming warning: human activity, particularly the burning of fossil fuels, was inducing profound changes in the global climate with potentially catastrophic consequences. (Of course, a prestigious scientific advisory committee had offered just such a warning to President Lyndon Johnson more than two decades earlier, predicting the early twenty-first-century effects of climate change, to no effect whatsoever.)

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by alexandra_k on January 11, 2020, at 12:52:58

In reply to the hour is upon us, posted by beckett2 on January 5, 2020, at 20:04:23

I don't understand what is going on with the Trump indictment, thing, not even a little bit, not at all.

In other news, North Korea has been painted pretty severely in the newspapers over here, for quite some time. Making it sound like we were on the brink of war and making it sound like Korea was in fact making nuclear weapons that it intended to use in the very near future.

Then there was a picture of the leader on the most beautiful white horse you ever did see treking with this beautiful woman (his wife, apparently) on a twin horse up some mountain for a reflective pilgrimidge that he apparently does often...

And then the news 'he has stated that he is not willing to trade away the security of his people, for anything, at all'.

So... There we go.

Growing pains. Or something...

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by sigismund on January 11, 2020, at 17:32:30

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us, posted by alexandra_k on January 11, 2020, at 12:52:58

Not much is remembered about that war.

There were 4 buildings left standing in the north after the bombing.

McCarthur was given the boot for suggesting to Truman that 25 atomic weapons be dropped across the neck of the peninsular to keep the Chinese out.

 

Re: the hour is upon us

Posted by beckett2 on January 12, 2020, at 15:19:59

In reply to Re: the hour is upon us, posted by alexandra_k on January 11, 2020, at 12:52:58

> I don't understand what is going on with the Trump indictment, thing, not even a little bit, not at all.
>
> In other news, North Korea has been painted pretty severely in the newspapers over here, for quite some time. Making it sound like we were on the brink of war and making it sound like Korea was in fact making nuclear weapons that it intended to use in the very near future.
>
> Then there was a picture of the leader on the most beautiful white horse you ever did see treking with this beautiful woman (his wife, apparently) on a twin horse up some mountain for a reflective pilgrimidge that he apparently does often...
>
> And then the news 'he has stated that he is not willing to trade away the security of his people, for anything, at all'.
>
> So... There we go.
>
> Growing pains. Or something...

The beautiful woman is, I think, Kim Jong-un's sister. Yes, that is a gorgeous horse! It's fed better than the citizens.

I don't know what's going on with the impeachment. Nothing. Going to the senate for summary dismissal.

Trump says he and Kim fell in love. He really did say this. More than once. Very weird. His supporters are weird. His corporate supporters are just greedy capitalists.



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