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Re: Modern History sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

> I'd like to mention the systematic encouragement of indifference ever since Reagan at least.
>
> Nasty women! One day AOC will be president if she is not shot first.

Have I told you about trump comparing AOC to (the theater character of) Evita? Apparently that is his favorite musical. He admires her. And there is much to admire. I wonder if I'll live to see her or another woman become president. He'll never beat her on twitter :D

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 18:54:04

In reply to Re: Modern History sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

Many gems today. This twitter feed highlighted in the guardian. I love comics.

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/status/834470392890785792?s=20

 

First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 23, 2019, at 21:12:18

In reply to Re: Modern History sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

I have one of his T shirts: 'I'm not sure they have my dosage right.'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/23/boris-johnson-is-trying-to-will-brexit-into-existence-with-every-strand-of-his-deliberately-unfeasible-hair

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 24, 2019, at 3:25:35

In reply to First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 23, 2019, at 21:12:18

The opposite of the cultivation of indifference.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mu-K6da4Os

What did Barbara say?

But why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or that or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that, and watch him (her husband, former president George H. W. Bush) suffer?

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2019, at 18:54:18

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 24, 2019, at 3:25:35

I'm not sure I understand it...

I think it is that there are too many people. We have exceeded carrying capacity on the globe. We just keep making them, keep making them, keep making them, as cheap disposable items. As slaves to do labor.

Then they migrate en masse...

The migration up through America because people want... To live like they see on TV and presented in the media.

The migration across Europe.

And you can't have a nice life in a nice neighbourhood when there are masses and masses and masses and masses flocking into your neighbourhood.

But people keep making people. So... What ya gonna do.

Sigh.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 27, 2019, at 0:29:01

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2019, at 18:54:18

Climate change, drug production, DEA enforcement, CIA, fighting communism, terrorism or whatever, multiple coups throughout the entire continent, economic progress favouring oligarchies, free trade agreements...ever since WW2.

Of course they know what's in store. That's why the borders are being militarised.

 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 27, 2019, at 11:11:58

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 27, 2019, at 0:29:01

> Climate change, drug production, DEA enforcement, CIA, fighting communism, terrorism or whatever, multiple coups throughout the entire continent, economic progress favouring oligarchies, free trade agreements...ever since WW2.
>
> Of course they know what's in store. That's why the borders are being militarised.

Ex-national security adviser considers climate change to be the primary security risk. Thats the unspoken driver of immigration in the Americas.

Im writing from my phone in a prophylactic blackout. My favorite part of the state is ablaze, calling for 90,000 mandatory evacuations.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 1:26:26

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 27, 2019, at 11:11:58

Yes, I heard about this large evacuation or something, and thought of you. That is a lot of evacuations.

That's a good reason to do nothing about climate change....kill them off. Hate dominates politics for sure.

Mate Taibbi has a book out "Hate Inc". I listen to useful Idiots sometimes.

 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 28, 2019, at 11:51:15

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 1:26:26

> Yes, I heard about this large evacuation or something, and thought of you. That is a lot of evacuations.
>
> That's a good reason to do nothing about climate change....kill them off. Hate dominates politics for sure.
>
> Mate Taibbi has a book out "Hate Inc". I listen to useful Idiots sometimes.

Useful Idiots is a podcast or YouTube?

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 21:32:47

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 28, 2019, at 11:51:15

I listen to it on youtube but it may be a podcast.

He does it with Katie Halperin or some similar name.

There was a quote I read from "Insane Clown President" which was along the lines of 'Trump understood the fatal weakness of the death star: The cameras would never be switched off'. Which brings to mind 'Aryan Death Cult'. Where did I hear that?

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 21:32:47

Tulsi thinks that Hillary is a Russian asset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesTB_HtYM

I never hear people saying nice things about Putin, but let me repeat what he said to the UN about the US.....'Can't you see what you have done?' and 'Can't you think one step ahead'. He'd be thinking of chess, not the 8 dimensional variety.

Do you think this is becoming Shakespearian?

 

Artesia Balthrop

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:07:04

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32

who I don't know at all but whose name I love

Looks like she has had quite enough, maybe of Hillary, maybe of a good deal more.

 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on October 29, 2019, at 14:54:49

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32

> Tulsi thinks that Hillary is a Russian asset.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesTB_HtYM
>
> I never hear people saying nice things about Putin, but let me repeat what he said to the UN about the US.....'Can't you see what you have done?' and 'Can't you think one step ahead'. He'd be thinking of chess, not the 8 dimensional variety.
>
> Do you think this is becoming Shakespearian?


I think of Macbeth most certainly. What do you think?

Thanks for the clip. Hillary really should put a lid on it about *'this russur thing'.

So Gabbard has lost her progressive shine. What are the problems with Warren? I suppose she isn't progressive enough.... Your country is in a relatively peaceful state. Not brexiting or trumping or experiencing a far right insurgence. An AOC candidacy can't come fast enough.

My kid was arguing that the US should never had entered WWI. Woodrow Wilson started us on this interventionist path. It's a shame.

While writing this, I received a text that we'll be likely plunged into another blackout. The fires are terrifying.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haH987kwtt8

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 29, 2019, at 14:54:49

Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.

My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.

Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?

 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 15:25:57

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46

> Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.
>
> My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.
>
> Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?

Oh my god. I meant King Lear, not Macbeth. King Lear is what's happening here.


 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 16:05:05

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46

> Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.
>
> My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.
>
> Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?


'Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell
Hark! Now I hear them Ding-dong, bell.'

 

A dog's obeyed in office beckett2

Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 23:08:41

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 15:25:57

Ooooh, King Lear! Yes yes.

If that the heavens do not their visible spirits
Send quickly down to tame these vile offenses,
It will come:
Humanity must perforce prey on itself
Like monsters of the deep.

The great thing about Lear is that it is every second speech. Shakespeare's treatment of Albany's innocence is funny and cruel.
As in
'But oh poor Gloucester, lost he his other eye?' '
'Both, my Lord, both'.

There is no good news in Lear. And some of the most moving poetry I have read.

Poor naked wretches, whereso'er you are,
That bide the pelting of this pitiless storm,
How shall your houseless heads and unfed sides,
Your looped and windowed raggedness, defend you
From seasons such as these? Oh, I have ta'en
Too little care of this! Take physic, pomp.
Expose thyself to feel what wretches feel,
That thou mayst shake the superflux to them
And show the heavens more just.

I was 14 when I started on it. The world feels like it has moved on as it does at the end of the day, but there is nowhere left.

An interesting conversation on social media which took place in an opshop. The indue card is to supervise the spending of welfare recipients (Coles, Woolworths) One woman is looking through the 50c bin for something...

'Why are you doing that?'
I'm on the indue card'
'It's a good idea.'
'They'll be gassing us next.'
'It was good enough for the jews'

The charitable way of seeing this is as an example of the dry Australian sense of humour.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 23:21:15

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 16:05:05

it wasn't.....It was from a redacted (by Pound) section of the Wasteland

Full fathom five your Bleistein lies
Under the flatfish and the squids.

Graves' disease in a dead Jew's eyes!
Where the crabs have eat the lids

 

Re: A dog's obeyed in office sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 31, 2019, at 1:50:26

In reply to A dog's obeyed in office beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 23:08:41

> Ooooh, King Lear! Yes yes.
>
> If that the heavens do not their visible spirits
> Send quickly down to tame these vile offenses,
> It will come:
> Humanity must perforce prey on itself
> Like monsters of the deep.
>
> The great thing about Lear is that it is every second speech. Shakespeare's treatment of Albany's innocence is funny and cruel.
> As in
> 'But oh poor Gloucester, lost he his other eye?' '
> 'Both, my Lord, both'.
>
> There is no good news in Lear. And some of the most moving poetry I have read.
>
> Poor naked wretches, whereso'er you are,
> That bide the pelting of this pitiless storm,
> How shall your houseless heads and unfed sides,
> Your looped and windowed raggedness, defend you
> From seasons such as these? Oh, I have ta'en
> Too little care of this! Take physic, pomp.
> Expose thyself to feel what wretches feel,
> That thou mayst shake the superflux to them
> And show the heavens more just.
>
> I was 14 when I started on it. The world feels like it has moved on as it does at the end of the day, but there is nowhere left.
>
> An interesting conversation on social media which took place in an opshop. The indue card is to supervise the spending of welfare recipients (Coles, Woolworths) One woman is looking through the 50c bin for something...
>
> 'Why are you doing that?'
> I'm on the indue card'
> 'It's a good idea.'
> 'They'll be gassing us next.'
> 'It was good enough for the jews'
>
> The charitable way of seeing this is as an example of the dry Australian sense of humour.
>

There are refugees centers in Ireland run by a US conglomerate, Aramark, which contracts private prison management. I was listening to a podcast discussing, for instance, how the more people that fit into a center, the lower the cost per head and the greater the profit, etc. You know these places are travesties. Just the thought that Ireland had them, too. I believe California has agreed to stop private contracts. Anyways, what a dismal place the world has become. I wanted to hide my head.

What's an 'opshop'? I take it to be a thrift store (second hand store).

I've wanted to ask you. The polar vortex we experience in our midwest, is that something like the cold from melting ice being expelled from the north?

 

Re: A dog's obeyed in office

Posted by sigismund on October 31, 2019, at 2:50:42

In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 31, 2019, at 1:50:26

An opshop is a thrift store, yes.

From what I have heard and imperfectly remembered, something goes wavy in the upper atmosphere causing weather patterns to persist longer (California drought, rain in the midwest, freezing cold in the centre and east). Apparently it is starting to happen in the southern hemisphere with the melting, but it is not nearly as severe.

All the privatisations have changed governments from being service providers to money streams. Room there for family members to cash in on contracts for service provision. And then there is our pathetic dependence on carrots and sticks, as if we can't bear to touch those on the receiving end of the policies.

So what about PG&E (or whatever it is). Was it once government owned? All that money paid to shareholders could have been put to use burying the power lines. Those sunny Reagan years seem long ago, the Clinton promises of economic growth too. Everybody knows the plague is coming.

 

Re: A dog's obeyed in office

Posted by sigismund on October 31, 2019, at 2:57:30

In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 31, 2019, at 1:50:26

Privatisation makes sense where there can be competition. All of this institutional knowledge has been lost, wantonly destroyed.

If you want to privatise the ABC you starve it if funds, relentlessly attack it and destroy its confidence, then say it is useless and only for the elites and might as well be privatised. That looked like what Trump was doing with his cabinet appointments. Pure Murdoch.

 

Re: A dog's obeyed in office sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on November 1, 2019, at 19:36:28

In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office, posted by sigismund on October 31, 2019, at 2:50:42

I think of the North Pole as unspooling all that stored cold. So it's not so bad where you are yet? You brought to my attention Tasmania and wombats. The grasses were not thriving.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4826297/ken-cuccinelli-accused-cruelty-policy-deport-critically-ill-immigrant-children

This clip was part of what brought me low the other day. I thought at the time he would be willing to gas the _______s. Take your pick. Then I read the comments of the women from the opshop and I felt a little cheer.

There is a meme. Stalin says 'Dark humor is like food. Not everybody gets it.' I don't know where this came from. Not as funny as the women who implicated themselves. That was true gallows humor.

From NYT 1992:

'To the Editor:

"Is Communism dead?" Mikhail S. Gorbachev asks in "No Time for Stereotypes" (Op-Ed, Feb. 24). "I think," he states, "the Stalinist model is dead and, I would add, thank God." This brings to mind a joke told me by one of my Russian teachers some years ago, which recalls with characteristic dark humor the days of the Stalin dictatorship.

In keeping with the official atheism of the Communist state, the phrase "thank God" (in Russian, "slava Bogu," literally "glory to God") was not to be used. Stalin decreed that, in its place, Soviet citizens should say, "slava Stalinu," or "thank Stalin."

The story is told of two Red Army guards walking their post before some official installation. It's late, and their tour of duty is almost over. As they pass each other marching in opposite directions, one soldier says, "Thank God, we've only got 15 minutes to go."

As they pass again, the other soldier says, "Thank Stalin, we only have 10 more minutes left."

Later the second young man remarks: "I noticed you said, 'Thank God.' What would you say if there were no God?"

After a moment, the first soldier replies: "I don't know. But I noticed you said, 'Thank Stalin.' What would you say if there were no Stalin?"

"Thank God."

 

Re: A dog's obeyed in office

Posted by Beckett2 on November 1, 2019, at 19:42:36

In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office, posted by sigismund on October 31, 2019, at 2:57:30

> Privatisation makes sense where there can be competition. All of this institutional knowledge has been lost, wantonly destroyed.
>
> If you want to privatise the ABC you starve it if funds, relentlessly attack it and destroy its confidence, then say it is useless and only for the elites and might as well be privatised. That looked like what Trump was doing with his cabinet appointments. Pure Murdoch.

This summer I think it was, the ABC office was raided by the police? I was so shocked! In Australia? I think it was over a source.

Yes, all of the above is happening here. The loss is not yet apparent, but we will suffer for it.

I still ponder upon Scotty agreeing to help trump and pompeo. Shortly afterwards he attended the WH. Very shabby payoff.

 

A Hard Rain

Posted by sigismund on November 2, 2019, at 20:29:45

In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on November 1, 2019, at 19:36:28

The whole thing is depressing, but you have reason to feel proud of Mr Clay. This is the House of Reps?

The government here.......no, don't get me started, I don't know the details, but cruelty is the point.......then we have the hide to lecture the Chinese about 'our values', which will not long detain them since they take the long view. I think we paid 1 or 2 hundred million to open Christmas Island for a day and close it the next so the PM could make an announcement.

 

Re: A dog's obeyed in office

Posted by sigismund on November 2, 2019, at 20:35:45

In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office, posted by Beckett2 on November 1, 2019, at 19:42:36

The worse your governments are the more closely we cleave to them.
There used to be some sense of reserve, a kind of residual dignity in the way we did this.


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