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Re: Ancient History » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 16, 2019, at 19:41:56

In reply to Ancient History, posted by sigismund on October 12, 2019, at 0:40:33

> Remember this? No one could do this now after 2007. That dystopian moment has passed.
>
> 'Later Poindexter, convicted of lying to congress in the 1980s, opened up a futures market for terrorist attacks, where traders would be financially rewarded by the Pentagon for accurately predicting suicide bombings.'

Wow, no. I dont remember this.

 

Modern History » Beckett2

Posted by sigismund on October 17, 2019, at 17:24:25

In reply to Re: Ancient History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 16, 2019, at 19:41:56

That was in more optimistic times, for those with faith in the market.

The erosion empathy and cultivation of indifference proceeds.......from today's Guardian

"An Afghan doctor who was transferred to Australia from Manus Island for medical care has died in Brisbane.

Sayed Mirwais Rohani had been in Australia for around two years, after more than four years on Manus Island.

The 32-year-old Hazara man is believed to have taken his own life, and is the 13th death of a person sent to Manus Island or Nauru by Australia under its offshore immigration system.

Rohanis father is a refugee living in the UK with his wife, and he travelled to Manus Island in 2016 seeking his sons release to join him in the UK. The spokesman for the Refugee Action Coalition, Ian Rintoul, said that request was denied because Rohani was not a minor."

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 18, 2019, at 16:02:46

In reply to Modern History » Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 17, 2019, at 17:24:25

Sometimes I come across things that make me laugh.....

Capitalism is in this sense a meth-addled drone pilot sitting in an air conditioned trailer in bumblefuck Virginia with a pile of pornographic magazines in one hand and the button that slaughters a wedding party in Afghanistan in the other. The choices are, 1) dont push the button, 2) push the button and slaughter the entire wedding party, 3) push the button, but only target the men, 4) OD on meth with plans to meet the wedding party in the afterlife. If anything, this metaphor is too generous.

 

Re: Modern History » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 22, 2019, at 0:43:01

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 18, 2019, at 16:02:46

> Sometimes I come across things that make me laugh.....
>
> Capitalism is in this sense a meth-addled drone pilot sitting in an air conditioned trailer in bumblefuck Virginia with a pile of pornographic magazines in one hand and the button that slaughters a wedding party in Afghanistan in the other. The choices are, 1) dont push the button, 2) push the button and slaughter the entire wedding party, 3) push the button, but only target the men, 4) OD on meth with plans to meet the wedding party in the afterlife. If anything, this metaphor is too generous.

You may have seen this. Please keep us in your heart. (I know you do already.) Quite the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT46JOdM5eA

 

Re: Modern History » Beckett2

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45

In reply to Re: Modern History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 22, 2019, at 0:43:01

I must watch. Some things I read in the madrugada make me laugh like that and this.......

You think this impeachment is a LYNCHING? tweeted the Illinois representative Bobby Rush. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet.

He didn't even say what the heck.

It's Billy Holiday with Bitter Fruit, no? I read about how her act got to be performed. The whole thing sounded reverential.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:09:10

In reply to Re: Modern History » Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45

>What the hell is wrong with you?

What's wrong with what? Narcissism doesn't quite cover it.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

In reply to Re: Modern History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 22, 2019, at 0:43:01

I'd like to mention the systematic encouragement of indifference ever since Reagan at least.

Nasty women! One day AOC will be president if she is not shot first.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:59:26

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

John Curtin in WWII used to end his speeches with 'God bless you all', which was nice, inclusive and sincere, different from how it would sound today, sanctimonious and divisive.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 14:40:38

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:59:26

As good an occasion as any. I don't know if it's a good version. I see it is Strange Fruit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI

When she sang it everything in the club was stopped, the lights were out except for the spotlight, and the show stopped after that.

 

Re: Modern History » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:38:44

In reply to Re: Modern History » Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45

> I must watch. Some things I read in the madrugada make me laugh like that and this.......
>
> You think this impeachment is a LYNCHING? tweeted the Illinois representative Bobby Rush. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet.
>
> He didn't even say what the heck.
>

Yes, I read this. Crazy, huh?

Similarly for your amusement (short clip from c span) a personal attorney for trump argues the case for presidential immunity. It's under three minutes.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4824386/lawyer-argues-president-trump-prosecuted-office-shoots


> It's Billy Holiday with Bitter Fruit, no? I read about how her act got to be performed. The whole thing sounded reverential.

I'll need to listen again. Many years ago I think was the last time. Just chilling. I can only imagine the performance. Her life was filled with suffering. What an amazing voice and performer.

 

Re: Modern History » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:46:18

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:09:10

> >What the hell is wrong with you?
>
> What's wrong with what? Narcissism doesn't quite cover it.

You're making me laugh :)

 

Re: Modern History » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

> I'd like to mention the systematic encouragement of indifference ever since Reagan at least.
>
> Nasty women! One day AOC will be president if she is not shot first.

Have I told you about trump comparing AOC to (the theater character of) Evita? Apparently that is his favorite musical. He admires her. And there is much to admire. I wonder if I'll live to see her or another woman become president. He'll never beat her on twitter :D

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 18:54:04

In reply to Re: Modern History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

Many gems today. This twitter feed highlighted in the guardian. I love comics.

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/status/834470392890785792?s=20

 

First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 23, 2019, at 21:12:18

In reply to Re: Modern History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

I have one of his T shirts: 'I'm not sure they have my dosage right.'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/23/boris-johnson-is-trying-to-will-brexit-into-existence-with-every-strand-of-his-deliberately-unfeasible-hair

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 24, 2019, at 3:25:35

In reply to First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 23, 2019, at 21:12:18

The opposite of the cultivation of indifference.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mu-K6da4Os

What did Barbara say?

But why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or that or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that, and watch him (her husband, former president George H. W. Bush) suffer?

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2019, at 18:54:18

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 24, 2019, at 3:25:35

I'm not sure I understand it...

I think it is that there are too many people. We have exceeded carrying capacity on the globe. We just keep making them, keep making them, keep making them, as cheap disposable items. As slaves to do labor.

Then they migrate en masse...

The migration up through America because people want... To live like they see on TV and presented in the media.

The migration across Europe.

And you can't have a nice life in a nice neighbourhood when there are masses and masses and masses and masses flocking into your neighbourhood.

But people keep making people. So... What ya gonna do.

Sigh.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 27, 2019, at 0:29:01

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2019, at 18:54:18

Climate change, drug production, DEA enforcement, CIA, fighting communism, terrorism or whatever, multiple coups throughout the entire continent, economic progress favouring oligarchies, free trade agreements...ever since WW2.

Of course they know what's in store. That's why the borders are being militarised.

 

Re: First Dog » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 27, 2019, at 11:11:58

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 27, 2019, at 0:29:01

> Climate change, drug production, DEA enforcement, CIA, fighting communism, terrorism or whatever, multiple coups throughout the entire continent, economic progress favouring oligarchies, free trade agreements...ever since WW2.
>
> Of course they know what's in store. That's why the borders are being militarised.

Ex-national security adviser considers climate change to be the primary security risk. Thats the unspoken driver of immigration in the Americas.

Im writing from my phone in a prophylactic blackout. My favorite part of the state is ablaze, calling for 90,000 mandatory evacuations.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 1:26:26

In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 27, 2019, at 11:11:58

Yes, I heard about this large evacuation or something, and thought of you. That is a lot of evacuations.

That's a good reason to do nothing about climate change....kill them off. Hate dominates politics for sure.

Mate Taibbi has a book out "Hate Inc". I listen to useful Idiots sometimes.

 

Re: First Dog » sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 28, 2019, at 11:51:15

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 1:26:26

> Yes, I heard about this large evacuation or something, and thought of you. That is a lot of evacuations.
>
> That's a good reason to do nothing about climate change....kill them off. Hate dominates politics for sure.
>
> Mate Taibbi has a book out "Hate Inc". I listen to useful Idiots sometimes.

Useful Idiots is a podcast or YouTube?

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 21:32:47

In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 28, 2019, at 11:51:15

I listen to it on youtube but it may be a podcast.

He does it with Katie Halperin or some similar name.

There was a quote I read from "Insane Clown President" which was along the lines of 'Trump understood the fatal weakness of the death star: The cameras would never be switched off'. Which brings to mind 'Aryan Death Cult'. Where did I hear that?

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 21:32:47

Tulsi thinks that Hillary is a Russian asset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesTB_HtYM

I never hear people saying nice things about Putin, but let me repeat what he said to the UN about the US.....'Can't you see what you have done?' and 'Can't you think one step ahead'. He'd be thinking of chess, not the 8 dimensional variety.

Do you think this is becoming Shakespearian?

 

Artesia Balthrop

Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:07:04

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32

who I don't know at all but whose name I love

Looks like she has had quite enough, maybe of Hillary, maybe of a good deal more.

 

Re: First Dog » sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on October 29, 2019, at 14:54:49

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32

> Tulsi thinks that Hillary is a Russian asset.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesTB_HtYM
>
> I never hear people saying nice things about Putin, but let me repeat what he said to the UN about the US.....'Can't you see what you have done?' and 'Can't you think one step ahead'. He'd be thinking of chess, not the 8 dimensional variety.
>
> Do you think this is becoming Shakespearian?


I think of Macbeth most certainly. What do you think?

Thanks for the clip. Hillary really should put a lid on it about *'this russur thing'.

So Gabbard has lost her progressive shine. What are the problems with Warren? I suppose she isn't progressive enough.... Your country is in a relatively peaceful state. Not brexiting or trumping or experiencing a far right insurgence. An AOC candidacy can't come fast enough.

My kid was arguing that the US should never had entered WWI. Woodrow Wilson started us on this interventionist path. It's a shame.

While writing this, I received a text that we'll be likely plunged into another blackout. The fires are terrifying.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haH987kwtt8

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46

In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 29, 2019, at 14:54:49

Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.

My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.

Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?


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