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Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:33:37

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:21:40

So Trump is the logical extension of the Anglosphere? What's that thing from the definition of the Spectacle......a litany of self congratulation? I had a copy of the Revolution of Everyday Life, but it was a bit hard.

I don't know what to think. Doesn't look good.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:35:48

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:33:37

I thought Australia was going to dodge it, but nah.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:44:34

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:21:40

Fire and Ice
BY ROBERT FROST

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what Ive tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on October 9, 2019, at 1:48:58

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 8, 2019, at 23:44:34

We're(the US) going down hard, I feel. Something of an irony, considering the roles of capitalism and warfare in global warming. We made a nice spot for the hydrocarbon kings. Among a few other havens and enablers.

Dark days here.

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by beckett2 on October 9, 2019, at 1:50:01

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 9, 2019, at 1:48:58

All for disposable plastic comfort.

 

Re: First Dog sigismund

Posted by alexandra_k on October 9, 2019, at 1:52:22

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 7, 2019, at 21:04:33

I don't know that I understand it

 

Re: First Dog

Posted by sigismund on October 9, 2019, at 18:54:45

In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 7, 2019, at 21:04:33

It referred to XR and the necessity of jailing anyone protesting environmental issues (such as Adani).

 

Andrew Bacevich

Posted by sigismund on October 11, 2019, at 1:55:07

In reply to Re: First Dog sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 9, 2019, at 1:48:58

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/10/the-real-cover-up-putting-donald-trumps-impeachment-in-context/

Not particularly encouraging, but spot on.

 

Re: Andrew Bacevich sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 11, 2019, at 16:09:32

In reply to Andrew Bacevich, posted by sigismund on October 11, 2019, at 1:55:07

A family member has me convinced that Teddy Roosevelt was perhaps the best president weve had. Before the wars.

I dont see us getting out of the spot Bacevich identifies. Justice deferred.

 

Re: Andrew Bacevich

Posted by Beckett2 on October 11, 2019, at 16:19:18

In reply to Andrew Bacevich, posted by sigismund on October 11, 2019, at 1:55:07

I cant imagine Sanders or Warren could really win because business will through all their weight against it.

Biden is a xerox of a xerox. Trump and Biden seem unacceptable. But the trees and forests.... theyd last a little longer under Biden.

How to survive another trump presidency? Even Scotty said hed help!

Honestly, I wish I could leave. At least for awhile.

 

Re: Andrew Bacevich Beckett2

Posted by sigismund on October 11, 2019, at 19:51:58

In reply to Re: Andrew Bacevich, posted by Beckett2 on October 11, 2019, at 16:19:18

Unlike with you our thugs appear genial, until Dutton comes.

 

Ancient History

Posted by sigismund on October 12, 2019, at 0:40:33

In reply to Re: Andrew Bacevich Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 11, 2019, at 19:51:58

Remember this? No one could do this now after 2007. That dystopian moment has passed.

'Later Poindexter, convicted of lying to congress in the 1980s, opened up a futures market for terrorist attacks, where traders would be financially rewarded by the Pentagon for accurately predicting suicide bombings.'

 

Re: Ancient History sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 16, 2019, at 19:41:56

In reply to Ancient History, posted by sigismund on October 12, 2019, at 0:40:33

> Remember this? No one could do this now after 2007. That dystopian moment has passed.
>
> 'Later Poindexter, convicted of lying to congress in the 1980s, opened up a futures market for terrorist attacks, where traders would be financially rewarded by the Pentagon for accurately predicting suicide bombings.'

Wow, no. I dont remember this.

 

Modern History Beckett2

Posted by sigismund on October 17, 2019, at 17:24:25

In reply to Re: Ancient History sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 16, 2019, at 19:41:56

That was in more optimistic times, for those with faith in the market.

The erosion empathy and cultivation of indifference proceeds.......from today's Guardian

"An Afghan doctor who was transferred to Australia from Manus Island for medical care has died in Brisbane.

Sayed Mirwais Rohani had been in Australia for around two years, after more than four years on Manus Island.

The 32-year-old Hazara man is believed to have taken his own life, and is the 13th death of a person sent to Manus Island or Nauru by Australia under its offshore immigration system.

Rohanis father is a refugee living in the UK with his wife, and he travelled to Manus Island in 2016 seeking his sons release to join him in the UK. The spokesman for the Refugee Action Coalition, Ian Rintoul, said that request was denied because Rohani was not a minor."

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 18, 2019, at 16:02:46

In reply to Modern History Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 17, 2019, at 17:24:25

Sometimes I come across things that make me laugh.....

Capitalism is in this sense a meth-addled drone pilot sitting in an air conditioned trailer in bumblefuck Virginia with a pile of pornographic magazines in one hand and the button that slaughters a wedding party in Afghanistan in the other. The choices are, 1) dont push the button, 2) push the button and slaughter the entire wedding party, 3) push the button, but only target the men, 4) OD on meth with plans to meet the wedding party in the afterlife. If anything, this metaphor is too generous.

 

Re: Modern History sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 22, 2019, at 0:43:01

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 18, 2019, at 16:02:46

> Sometimes I come across things that make me laugh.....
>
> Capitalism is in this sense a meth-addled drone pilot sitting in an air conditioned trailer in bumblefuck Virginia with a pile of pornographic magazines in one hand and the button that slaughters a wedding party in Afghanistan in the other. The choices are, 1) dont push the button, 2) push the button and slaughter the entire wedding party, 3) push the button, but only target the men, 4) OD on meth with plans to meet the wedding party in the afterlife. If anything, this metaphor is too generous.

You may have seen this. Please keep us in your heart. (I know you do already.) Quite the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT46JOdM5eA

 

Re: Modern History Beckett2

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45

In reply to Re: Modern History sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 22, 2019, at 0:43:01

I must watch. Some things I read in the madrugada make me laugh like that and this.......

You think this impeachment is a LYNCHING? tweeted the Illinois representative Bobby Rush. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet.

He didn't even say what the heck.

It's Billy Holiday with Bitter Fruit, no? I read about how her act got to be performed. The whole thing sounded reverential.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:09:10

In reply to Re: Modern History Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45

>What the hell is wrong with you?

What's wrong with what? Narcissism doesn't quite cover it.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

In reply to Re: Modern History sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 22, 2019, at 0:43:01

I'd like to mention the systematic encouragement of indifference ever since Reagan at least.

Nasty women! One day AOC will be president if she is not shot first.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:59:26

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

John Curtin in WWII used to end his speeches with 'God bless you all', which was nice, inclusive and sincere, different from how it would sound today, sanctimonious and divisive.

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 14:40:38

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:59:26

As good an occasion as any. I don't know if it's a good version. I see it is Strange Fruit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI

When she sang it everything in the club was stopped, the lights were out except for the spotlight, and the show stopped after that.

 

Re: Modern History sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:38:44

In reply to Re: Modern History Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45

> I must watch. Some things I read in the madrugada make me laugh like that and this.......
>
> You think this impeachment is a LYNCHING? tweeted the Illinois representative Bobby Rush. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet.
>
> He didn't even say what the heck.
>

Yes, I read this. Crazy, huh?

Similarly for your amusement (short clip from c span) a personal attorney for trump argues the case for presidential immunity. It's under three minutes.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4824386/lawyer-argues-president-trump-prosecuted-office-shoots


> It's Billy Holiday with Bitter Fruit, no? I read about how her act got to be performed. The whole thing sounded reverential.

I'll need to listen again. Many years ago I think was the last time. Just chilling. I can only imagine the performance. Her life was filled with suffering. What an amazing voice and performer.

 

Re: Modern History sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:46:18

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:09:10

> >What the hell is wrong with you?
>
> What's wrong with what? Narcissism doesn't quite cover it.

You're making me laugh :)

 

Re: Modern History sigismund

Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33

> I'd like to mention the systematic encouragement of indifference ever since Reagan at least.
>
> Nasty women! One day AOC will be president if she is not shot first.

Have I told you about trump comparing AOC to (the theater character of) Evita? Apparently that is his favorite musical. He admires her. And there is much to admire. I wonder if I'll live to see her or another woman become president. He'll never beat her on twitter :D

 

Re: Modern History

Posted by beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 18:54:04

In reply to Re: Modern History sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28

Many gems today. This twitter feed highlighted in the guardian. I love comics.

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/status/834470392890785792?s=20


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