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Re: SOS from the US sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on May 25, 2019, at 22:23:06

In reply to Re: SOS from the US beckett2, posted by sigismund on May 25, 2019, at 19:40:40

> Richard Cooke (from Black Ink) has written a book.......
>
> https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/tired-winning.
>
> Well, it's frightening, people can be.
>
>

Did you link to one of his essays recently? The writing feels similar.

Have you read this book?

I'm certainly tired of winning. Yesterday I purchased a Andrew Bacevich book, The Twilight of the American Century. A critic said the book was all well and good, but could have focused on the economics. I haven't read it yet, so I don't know.

I'd love to travel as in get out. But I'm on the chain gang with... who are these people? Who am I?

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by sigismund on May 25, 2019, at 22:37:46

In reply to Re: SOS from the US sigismund, posted by beckett2 on May 25, 2019, at 22:23:06

On the economics front, I would love the role of the US$ as petrodollar /reserve currency explained to me.

 

Re: SOS from the US sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on May 25, 2019, at 23:25:51

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by sigismund on May 25, 2019, at 22:37:46

> On the economics front, I would love the role of the US$ as petrodollar /reserve currency explained to me.

I don't understand the term petrodollar /reserve currency.

Mostly, I feel sad.

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by sigismund on May 26, 2019, at 1:07:21

In reply to Re: SOS from the US sigismund, posted by beckett2 on May 25, 2019, at 23:25:51

The fact that most things are paid for in US$. This gives the US certain advantages. Maybe values the US$ more highly?

Some countries (Libya, Iran?) have considered using other payment methods.

 

Re: SOS from the US sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on May 26, 2019, at 2:27:44

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by sigismund on May 26, 2019, at 1:07:21

Oh. Lightbulb! I have a dim awareness what this means which living here makes me almost blind to.

> The fact that most things are paid for in US$. This gives the US certain advantages. Maybe values the US$ more highly?
>
> Some countries (Libya, Iran?) have considered using other payment methods.

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by sigismund on May 27, 2019, at 0:17:58

In reply to SOS from the US, posted by beckett2 on May 25, 2019, at 12:41:59

>Corporate sh*ts take the lion's share of responsibility for global warming... but no one wants to really look at global warning. It's terrifying and requires a real reckoning. Instead we will fight each other and tear everything apart.

>I imagine it's all torn apart if you're in Yemen or Syria. So what the f*ck am I defending? Or mourning?

>I had panic attacks yesterday and today. The news here gets worse and worse. We'll never cure this canker represented by trump.

That's what's going to happen. I have not been feeling the best since our election.


 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by sigismund on May 27, 2019, at 0:27:09

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by sigismund on May 27, 2019, at 0:17:58

You are mourning the destruction. And the stupidity. I thought of you when I read this. Lots of people are no doubt feeling the same. It makes narcotic addiction feel rational enough.

"What were left with as this strange bastard empire slouches towards Bethlehem to die in a hail of bullets is a colossal landmass of lost souls without purpose. As we cling to the wreckage of our manufactured mass tribes we descend deeper and deeper into nihilistic violence and self destruction. We are ravaged by plagues of mass shootings and narcotics addiction. While our mandarins continue to start unwinnable crusades in a sad attempt to revive their past glories, we stand as a nation on the brink of a societal collapse unlike any seen since the Roman Empire. But in this crisis I cant help but to see great opportunities. Every apocalypse presents an opportunity, however fleeting, for utopia."

 

A Modest Proposal

Posted by sigismund on May 31, 2019, at 16:22:36

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by sigismund on May 27, 2019, at 0:27:09

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/31/get-out-of-the-presidents-way/

 

Re: A Modest Proposal

Posted by sigismund on May 31, 2019, at 23:35:42

In reply to A Modest Proposal, posted by sigismund on May 31, 2019, at 16:22:36

This one is even better.....

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/31/how-to-sell-the-narrative-of-american-greatness/

John Steppling is amazing.

 

Re: SOS from the US beckett2

Posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:51:28

In reply to SOS from the US, posted by beckett2 on May 25, 2019, at 12:41:59

> Instead we will fight each other and tear everything apart.

yep. that's the plan.

if i can't have any kind of life worth living than i really have nothing to lose. why wouldn't i want to tear y'all down with me, if there is no way whatsoever that my prospects can improve in life.

there's nothing here

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:54:29

In reply to Re: SOS from the US beckett2, posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:51:28

so...

someone gets a large research grant.

do they use that money to hire a post-doctoral fellowship?

naw. now's the time to be flying to locations a couple hours drive away.

environment be damned.

patron of the arts be damned.

using the excess one has to help provide meaningful work for others be damned.

wonderful wonderful people we place in charge!

awwwwwwww when i grow up i wanna be just like you!!!

i'd rather shoot my face off.

and there's the problem.

it's hard to hide the... repulsion.

and it's hard to hide the... gloat.

?

for the good of us all.

mmm hmm

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:55:22

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:54:29

so people just leave.

and these are the people who are left.

i didn't ask to be born.

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by alexandra_k on June 1, 2019, at 0:14:11

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:55:22

Sigh.

Sorry. I am in a foul mood, today.

Making changes to my thesis.

Very angry and resentful about my thesis since my supervisor lied to me about it being a 120 point program of study that could be completed in 1 year... Then (when it was too late for me to pursue a different path) she did everything in her power to stabotage my enrolment / timely progress / completion.

'With friends like these who needs enemies'.

For sure.

Nasty, nasty, nasty business.

I suppose they only hire them so people will run away screaming. People will not voluntarily do business with them. That way the people who collect up all the money (by treating the people in their care as badly as they think they can get away with) can persist on with their cunning plan to make things worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse for everyone.

Because the only thing we wanted to know was `and how low can we go'?? F*ck*ng horrible rubbish heap of the world that is New Zealand.

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by alexandra_k on June 1, 2019, at 0:20:31

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by alexandra_k on June 1, 2019, at 0:14:11

what they just genuinely don't seem to understand is that they would have got a better job out of me if they had have not tried to be as f*ck*ng obstructive as they have been...

but i guess that's the f*ck*ng point of the 'how low can we go' strategy. by flunking out the genuinely skilled and talented kids and promoting those who only repeat back what their superiors say they make themselves look better and that is their primary concern.

if nobody is able to produce work around them then they don't look as underproductive as they actually are. the biggest production they do is preventing the production of others. writing reports of changed required whether for peer review or review of their students work. a basic inability to focus on the actual goal.

there is a genuine inability to focus on the actual goal. on the win-win outcome. there is a genuine inability / unwillingness to *aim* to figure out a win-win outcome. people are so very wedded to this 'you lose therefore i win' life strategy.

how low can we go?

it appears to know no bounds

 

Re: SOS from the US

Posted by alexandra_k on June 1, 2019, at 0:29:26

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by alexandra_k on June 1, 2019, at 0:20:31

because someone wants to play 'you lose therefore i win'.
because they win.
and because...

they get a kick out of you lose.

people will not voluntarily play with them.
it isn't fun playing with people who are trying to make you lose because they find you losing something intrinsically pleasurable for them.

so then they become very invested in making sure that the people they like to play with cannot get away.

nasty nasty nasty nasty people.

they spout all kinds of nonsense rubbish in some kind of attempt to justify what they are up to / what they are doing. but it is just confabulation.. b*llsh*t... nonsense...

they aren't interested in playing a different kind of game.

they often seem... somewhat resigned to things when the tide turns and they lose.

that's why... was it karen horney? I don't remember... someone thought that people genuinely did have a death instinct. that there was an urge or motivation to die.

that is the flipside of that kind of game.

that game...

doesn't allow for medicine.

because that game is all about taking advantage of others if one can get away with it. that's basically the antithesis of helping others.

people don't understand what helping others means.

they don't expect others to help them...

only they do.

they don't question tehir 'health professionals' they trust that their health professionals are acting in their interests.

but why would they think that?

would they do that if they were employed as health professionals?

?

no.

it is hypocracy. there is something irrational about it. stupid. short-sighted. etc.

 

Re: SOS from the US sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on June 1, 2019, at 0:52:26

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by sigismund on May 27, 2019, at 0:27:09

> You are mourning the destruction. And the stupidity. I thought of you when I read this. Lots of people are no doubt feeling the same. It makes narcotic addiction feel rational enough.
>
> "What were left with as this strange bastard empire slouches towards Bethlehem to die in a hail of bullets is a colossal landmass of lost souls without purpose. As we cling to the wreckage of our manufactured mass tribes we descend deeper and deeper into nihilistic violence and self destruction. We are ravaged by plagues of mass shootings and narcotics addiction. While our mandarins continue to start unwinnable crusades in a sad attempt to revive their past glories, we stand as a nation on the brink of a societal collapse unlike any seen since the Roman Empire. But in this crisis I cant help but to see great opportunities. Every apocalypse presents an opportunity, however fleeting, for utopia."

Is this Hedges?

I'm feeling a little better. When there is news of trump and the money hoarders triumphing and all that goes along with it, I dip into the grief I experienced during 2016.

If you haven't seen this already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5wgaBOyvJA It's a majority report, and the way Gorka speaks brings back the nervous giggling I suppressed during latin mass as a child.

Thank you for the links below. I'll read them this weekend.

 

Re: SOS from the US alexandra_k

Posted by beckett2 on June 1, 2019, at 0:53:47

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2019, at 23:54:29

Gaaah. What happened?

> so...
>
> someone gets a large research grant.
>
> do they use that money to hire a post-doctoral fellowship?
>
> naw. now's the time to be flying to locations a couple hours drive away.
>
> environment be damned.
>
> patron of the arts be damned.
>
> using the excess one has to help provide meaningful work for others be damned.
>
> wonderful wonderful people we place in charge!
>
> awwwwwwww when i grow up i wanna be just like you!!!
>
> i'd rather shoot my face off.
>
> and there's the problem.
>
> it's hard to hide the... repulsion.
>
> and it's hard to hide the... gloat.
>
> ?
>
> for the good of us all.
>
> mmm hmm
>
>

 

Re: SOS from the US alexandra_k

Posted by beckett2 on June 1, 2019, at 0:57:01

In reply to Re: SOS from the US, posted by alexandra_k on June 1, 2019, at 0:29:26

Never have to apologize for being in a foul mood to me. There are innumerable reason.

Nothing like school bureaucracy makes one want to tear one's hair and rent one's clothes in a public square.

Are you feeling any better tho?

 

good advice then and now

Posted by beckett2 on June 5, 2019, at 19:39:49

In reply to brought to you by the home of the free, posted by beckett2 on May 23, 2019, at 22:59:28

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/05/the-spoils-and-blame-have-been-apportioned-the-morrison-government-is-back-lets-prepare?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0ZpcnN0RG9nT25UaGVNb29uLTE5MDYwNQ%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=FirstDogOnTheMoon&CMP=firstdog_email

 

Re: good advice then and now beckett2

Posted by sigismund on June 5, 2019, at 23:58:44

In reply to good advice then and now, posted by beckett2 on June 5, 2019, at 19:39:49

Try checking the news just once a day!

Limit climate science videos to twice a week!

I am just putting a solar hot water system on my roof with the FRANKING CREDIT REBATE government cheque!

Anyway, the coalition will have to wear this, whichever way it crumbles.

 

Re: good advice then and now

Posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2019, at 17:30:52

In reply to Re: good advice then and now beckett2, posted by sigismund on June 5, 2019, at 23:58:44

No, i am not feeling any better.

I didn't have a problem coming back to New Zealand. I thought I could work my way up, again. I thought things would be okay. People would realise that I was smart and I was a hard worker and things would be okay.

But those traits are not valued, here.

I would love to move back to America -- but I'm not playing the whole 'in however many generations' game. Because there is no way I would inflict this (horrible horrible horrible life I did not ask to be born) on someone I supposedly 'love'. That really makes no sense, at all.

It isn't mental illness. It is just people ignoring me and treating me like garbage indefinately because it is fun for them and because they think they can get away with it.

So...

I've seen nothing but corruption in our education system since I came back, here. People seem intentionally selected to teach because they are incompetent at getting their own work done.

People just will not play the game of doing their job to the best of their ability. It's all about 'how low can we go'. How little work they can get away with doing -- while seeking more money / promotion, of course.

I would rather die than be like them.

And they can see that / tell.

And there we are.

 

Re: good advice then and now

Posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2019, at 17:41:35

In reply to Re: good advice then and now, posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2019, at 17:30:52

And this whole thing of intentionally selecting for psychopaths. People who will say whatever you want them to say and feign feel however you want them to feign feel for...

For what?

For why?

What kind of character does that / can do that?

Can present a different face to the world so well?

Some psychotherapy person had clients from that population base... Someone wrote about that... Trying to remember...

I suppose we select FOR them because we know other people select AGAINT them. There's this whole attempt to be game theoretic 'smarter than you' and by thrusting forward all the people the overseas ones won't want so much you...

You...

Force them to take the ones you want to get rid of.

I guess.

Then you gotta ask 'what's the plan'?

I guess it's likely to be to get the family out. When you consider the whole developing 'how low can we go' trajectory that New Zealand is on then it's failry clearly something like that...

Hence the whole 'how's / who's the family' mentality about the whole thing.

You don't get to not have a herd / tribe / pack in these parts.

It's like Paupa New Guniea. It's not safe for people anymore.

Everyone involved in my MPhil is pretending to be an idiot. Pretending to not know the most basic things about what their job is and what they are supposed to be doing. Feigning incompetence. Dragging their heels.

Because that's their job. THey nailed it.

Their job is to make sure that the kids of the ones who are picked to do Law or Medicine or Engineering or whatever... It is to ensure that those kids will not stray from what their life path has been determined to be. If they picked to do something in the Arts for fun... Then the idea is that it will be so awful and the kids who do best in the Arts are only the kids who are never allowed to do well in anything else...

So everyone runs back to their 'proper place'.

That's our genius plan to boost GDP.

How low can we go??

Though...

How low do other nations want us to go?

I guess that's the idea, too.

How bad do things have to be in.. I don't know. Mexico. New Zealand. Before people want to move to America and... I don't know. Clean your toilet for you?

Tis a nasty business all around.

 

Re: good advice then and now

Posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2019, at 17:51:12

In reply to Re: good advice then and now, posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2019, at 17:30:52

I am imaginging having the kind of parents who would have been good to have. I am imagining what they would say to me / how they would advise me, given what I know, now.

I think...

My not having been born is probably the best thing that could have happened to me.

This isn't a whim or anything like that. I have been banging on about precisely this, repeatedly, for years now. Documented evidence here... All over these boards.

Oh, what's that? Other people prefer me to be alive. Like to kick at me. Like to withhold the resources I need from me. Like to see me beg for food and like to force me to live with others 'for my own good' and so on...

Yeah...

Tis a wonderful life, for them.

Well... That's what they get. THey decided to chase the money. NOw they have the money. That's why they chased it. They wanted it. They wanted teh things that money can buy. The power to maek it such that other people cannot get away from you.

Help me...

They say sometimes.

Mostly they say...

Kill me.

People in these parts don't want to live. That's why they don't want Medicine and Surgery. They don't want informed consent. THey want to chase the money and get the money and inflict what it is that they want on people. They want the people around them to do a half-*ss*d job of pretending to like being bullied and treated like garbage. It doesn't have to be flawless because they actually like seeing the... SPirit. I guess that's maybe what it is. That's why people are so awful to me. Because I didn't sell out for the money. Because I won't lie to their face like they want me to. Because I won't play in to their game.

I think about how low productivity is. HOw not much is being produced. I think about how my supervisor had to ask 5 people before she found 2 examiners for a thesis and how one of the people sent their report back late. Her response was to... Not do her job of working with me to get the changs signed off on within 10 weeks. Instead, she insists on sending it back to htem... SO they play football of nobody doing their job for as long as possible. Until the Univesrity is forced to decide whether to fail me out or grudgingly give me the qualification because it is losing me either way.

And that's how it's done in these parts.

Which is why Auckland has this whole 'the qualification must be done in the minimum time' requirement.

So they can say 'ineligable!' and cull the applicants who are not their own babies.

Tis genius.

In a land fill of psychopathic foetal alchohol affects syndrome tribal chieftan leaders!

f*ck*ng genius

 

Mathew Fox

Posted by sigismund on June 13, 2019, at 17:38:57

In reply to Re: good advice then and now, posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2019, at 17:51:12

https://therealnews.com/stories/targeted-by-the-inquisition-rai-with-matthew-fox-5-8

 

President Trump and Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by sigismund on June 13, 2019, at 22:11:44

In reply to Mathew Fox, posted by sigismund on June 13, 2019, at 17:38:57

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2019/jun/03/the-president-of-the-united-states-cant-talk-like-this-to-the-very-queen-of-england?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0ZpcnN0RG9nT25UaGVNb29uLTE5MDYxMg%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=FirstDogOnTheMoon&CMP=firstdog_email


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