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Posted by regisx on July 23, 2016, at 21:36:32
Does it make you feel better or does it make life easier?
For me it never did.
I struggled for years and years with doubts and worried about not really being saved, not believing correctly, losing my faith and so on.I listened to probably thousand or more sermons from all kinds of preachers. Most of them terrified me and made my suffering only worse.
There are SO many teachings out there which are pure poison for somebody with ocd and anxiety.
I have heard stuff like:
You can fail to "receive" your salvation if you don't have faith in the moment when you ask for it.
Or this whole stuff about that you must not doubt.
When I know that I must believe and not doubt then this causes even more anxiety. Then I become even more afraid of doubts.I emailed with ministries, talked to pastors over the phone basically NOBODY could help me or even really understand these struggles. Sooner or later I'd hear stuff like "you don't really want to believe".
I could never and still can't even read in the bible without coming across a verse which scares me or where I start to ask myself if I'm even really saved or not.
For example when I read that the fruits of the spirit are this and that and then I look at myself and see no such fruits then I worry.
Or when other christians talk about "experiencing" God or having a "relationship" with God then I ask myself what are they talking about?!
When all I can do is talk to God about my problems and basically repeat the same stuff every day and then run out of words or feel like this is totally useless then is this a "relationship"? Imo not.
Years ago I used to do this. I'd talk and talk and talk about things on my mind but it only dragged me down. I started becoming frustrated.
Today I really don't even know what to say anymore. I don't even want to talk about my problems cause then I feel even worse. Then I think my situation is so messed up why doesn't God simply do something and then I feel much worse than before.
Basically there's nothing left of the christian "disciplines". I cant read the bible, I cant talk to God anymore. Nothing left.
If the rapture happened now I'd not even feel confident or feel like I accomplished anything or made any progress. I'd worry about what God would say about what I should have done differently.
I mean this can't have been God's will right?
Why should God want somebody to be totally paralyzed and not "grow" as a christian?But I really don't know what to do differently.
I'm scared of going to church and listening to the sermons there. I'd also be scared of being exposed to other christians and their opinions or judgement.I made a few bad experiences. One time a pastor told me that I'm not saved he didn't even know me we only talked for a few minutes and then he tells me that I'm trying to fight sin in my own strength and that I'm not saved.
After that I felt terrible.
I don't want to experience stuff like that again.
Or when I look at other christians and feel like they are totally different and that they really draw strength from their faith and that they're not afraid then this also makes me feel bad.
It may sound stupid but I've even been afraid of what heaven might be like. I think what if there's no more "individualism" and everybody just sits there in a white robe and sings and bows 24/7 like robots?
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 22, 2016, at 21:19:12
In reply to Do you find comfort in your faith?, posted by regisx on July 23, 2016, at 21:36:32
i'm not trying to be mean, but someytimes when you see boring worship and lukewarm messeges it's dead in faith, there are many churches i've seen : charasmatic church - there usally more open with love to meet people but somtimes lack the basis of faith and use it more as a popular social to go too.....there's bible buring churches - using fear to their members to change their ways (and sometimes that is accurate because as a christain you suppost to resist desires of the devil and sin) there's churches that are boring and everyone has no zest, they look like their dead in their faith, but on the other side they could just be conserative, i don't like to catagorize because there's always true belivers in all denominations
but i think opening up a relationship with whatver you want to look up too.....usally in relationships with having faith, you pray....and pray more, and then act in faith. Still i'm trying to figure out that myself because it does seem your praying into the wind with nothing listening
i've prayed to jesus christ and have seen small things, but it's something you put in your heart and choose to follow, either buddism, or anything that you choose .....
faith in that being your going to be taken care of by god, with prayer and fasting....and commitment....i guess that's a short awnser, because there have been supernatual things that happen in emergency situations, but they don't happen alot
take a while to think, on what you want to commit your faith too, and pray, results may not happen all the time, but they do make a diffrence in some things
Posted by rjlockhart37 on May 23, 2019, at 1:45:40
In reply to Re: Do you find comfort in your faith?, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 22, 2016, at 21:19:12
undo don't read ... what wrote catagories churches, i was obvlious and know nothing about how churches are diffrent.
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