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Posted by TamaraJ on February 20, 2005, at 17:27:18
Has anyone ever discussed the possibility of having B-12 injections to deal with fatigue and brain fog with their gp (where a deficiency is not present or the deficiency may be sub-clinical)? I know this guy who was telling me about his wife being prescribed B-12 injections (in her case, she did have a true deficiency) and how the practioner also advised him to use B-12 when he was experiencing a lot of fatigue and brain fog. He also told me that when his neice came to stay with him and his wife one time, exhausted, both mentally and physically, from travelling, over-work and other things, and was having to go for an interview early the next day, she took a B-12 shot and both her mental and physical fatigue were markedly improved. It is obviously an unconventional practice, but I wonder if a patient could make a compelling arguement to their gp to at least be given the opportunity to try it. I think I may raise it with my doctor one day just to see what kind of reaction I get.
Tamara
Posted by Sarah T. on February 20, 2005, at 18:19:18
In reply to B-12 injections, posted by TamaraJ on February 20, 2005, at 17:27:18
A friend of mine went for B-12 injections a few years ago. I have to admit, she looked terrific during the year that she was doing it. She looked healthier than I'd ever seen her. I don't know whether she had a true deficiency or not. She may have been doing other things to make herself look and feel so much better, but all I know about was the B-12 injections.
Posted by tealady on February 21, 2005, at 2:29:52
In reply to B-12 injections, posted by TamaraJ on February 20, 2005, at 17:27:18
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20030903/msgs/263744.html
and some others in that thread
If you have "hypothyroid type" symptoms ..then yes, it is worth getting a blood test on . ..and tresting if under 500. Injections is probably the best way, although sublingual B12(methylcobalamin..available in US) work , just not as strong.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20030903/msgs/261999.htmlthe forum on b12 I mentioned is at
http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=206
also a fair bit on the thyroid forum as wellI mentioned in those posts as hypothyroid and lowB12 are frequently seen together.
Hope this helps
Jan
PS.. didn't help me as I had strange reactions..nothing like consistency:-)
but it definitely made a noticeable difference to my Mum both in relieving depression and in more alertness and better memory (she tested out at around 160 I think)
Posted by TamaraJ on February 21, 2005, at 10:18:43
In reply to Re: B-12 injections, posted by tealady on February 21, 2005, at 2:29:52
Thanks for the links Jan. I hadn't seen you posting much for a while, and I am glad to see you back. You were missed. I always appreciate your insights and knowledge.
I have been thinking about about this for a while. And, actually, not just in regard to B-12, but also the deleterious effects sub-clinical deficiencies in other vitamins and minerals can have on a person's physiological well-being (bearing in mind that no two people will repond/react the same way of course). I guess what bothers me a bit is that doctors do not (I am probably generalizing here) take as seriously and treat sub-clinical deficiencies as a matter of course. As long as the patient is in the normal range (even if it is the very low end of the normal range), then everything should be ok.
Thanks again, and take care.
Tamara
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20030903/msgs/263744.html
>
> and some others in that thread
> If you have "hypothyroid type" symptoms ..then yes, it is worth getting a blood test on . ..and tresting if under 500. Injections is probably the best way, although sublingual B12(methylcobalamin..available in US) work , just not as strong.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20030903/msgs/261999.html
>
> the forum on b12 I mentioned is at
> http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=206
> also a fair bit on the thyroid forum as wellI mentioned in those posts as hypothyroid and lowB12 are frequently seen together.
> Hope this helps
> Jan
> PS.. didn't help me as I had strange reactions..nothing like consistency:-)
> but it definitely made a noticeable difference to my Mum both in relieving depression and in more alertness and better memory (she tested out at around 160 I think)
>
>
Posted by joebob on February 23, 2005, at 10:18:11
In reply to B-12 injections, posted by TamaraJ on February 20, 2005, at 17:27:18
articles by h.l. newbold re b12 for info on use in psychiatric difficulties..........
there is a wonderful letter he posted in the lancet, id you can find itbest,
joebob
Posted by TamaraJ on February 23, 2005, at 10:27:32
In reply to search the web and your library for books and » TamaraJ, posted by joebob on February 23, 2005, at 10:18:11
Thanks for the tip! I'll see what I can find.
Posted by itsme2003 on May 1, 2005, at 20:30:08
In reply to Re: search the web and your library for books and » joebob, posted by TamaraJ on February 23, 2005, at 10:27:32
I wanted to see if I could help improve my depression by increasing my B-12 levels.
At a nearby health food store there is a traveling lab technician who comes by every couple of months and for a fee that is considerably less than in a Dr's office you can have any medical test done that you desire. I'd had my B-12 tested and it wasn't low at 400 (I apologize, but I've forgotten what the units are), but I thought that I could be in a situation of having a sub-clinical deficiency.
I used the sublingual tablets (one or two at a time) over the course of 9 months and was able to raise my B-12 level to 1150. I was a little concerned that I had overshot the top end of the normal range, but I asked my Dr. about it and he said to not worry about it since I had done it through supplementation.
I'm not suggesting that everyone could raise their levels that much with the sublingual tablets, but you could raise it quite a bit with them.
Changing my B-12 levels didn't cause any changes in my depression levels, so I discontinued the supplementation.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 21, 2005, at 9:54:24
In reply to Sublingual B-12, posted by itsme2003 on May 1, 2005, at 20:30:08
> I used the sublingual tablets (one or two at a time) over the course of 9 months and was able to raise my B-12 level to 1150. I was a little concerned that I had overshot the top end of the normal range, but I asked my Dr. about it and he said to not worry about it since I had done it through supplementation.
>
> I'm not suggesting that everyone could raise their levels that much with the sublingual tablets, but you could raise it quite a bit with them.
>
> Changing my B-12 levels didn't cause any changes in my depression levels, so I discontinued the supplementation.I'm sorry to hear that your mood didn't improve, but raising your B12 is probably a very good thing. There is no known toxic level for B12. It is an excellent scavenger for certain pro-oxidants in the blood. Even though you didn't notice anything subjectively, it was good for you to do that. Your liver will have stored a good portion of that B12 away, so you should have enhanced blood levels for many months to come.
Lar
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