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Posted by Partlycloudy on July 14, 2014, at 12:25:17
In reply to Re: Never mind, it changed! » Partlycloudy, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2014, at 9:38:07
There is a lot going on. Faces, people... Not sure I would want that on my wall. Lots of company.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 15, 2014, at 1:05:07
In reply to And the picture is..., posted by Partlycloudy on July 11, 2014, at 8:53:19
> Alice from "Alice in Wonderland" playing with her cat, Dinah? Can't name the illustrator, but might be from the original book.
See:
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/1911649
http://www.artinamericamagazine.com/news-features/magazine/sigmar-polkeBob
Posted by 10derheart on July 15, 2014, at 12:30:18
In reply to Re: Never mind, it changed! » Partlycloudy, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2014, at 9:38:07
Looks like Mao. But never saw a pic of him smiling. It's all quite disturbing...for me.
Posted by Phillipa on July 15, 2014, at 20:44:04
In reply to Re: Never mind, it changed!, posted by 10derheart on July 15, 2014, at 12:30:18
What's with all the nudity & a Swastika? I don't understand. This is a mental health board? Phillipa
Posted by 10derheart on July 16, 2014, at 2:24:10
In reply to Re: Never mind, it changed!, posted by Phillipa on July 15, 2014, at 20:44:04
Swastikas? I hadn't seen that. Hopefully an optical illusion.
I wish for some beautiful kids or animals or nature or anything that lifts up....but that's me.
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2014, at 17:45:25
In reply to Re: Never mind, it changed!, posted by Phillipa on July 15, 2014, at 20:44:04
> What's with all the nudity & a Swastika? I don't understand. This is a mental health board? Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...I don't understand...].
Let there be no misunderstanding here. Mr Hsiung says n his TOS that he does what in hi thinking will be god for this community as a whole. And more than that, he asks readers to try to trust him.
The aspect of {doing what will be good for the community as a whole has ancient precedence going back to the Greeks that killed all the new born children that they thought would not be good for their state as a whole (infanticide). With tha type of thinking, a country can have slavery,by saying that slavery will be good for the country as a whole. And a country can commit genocide by the same type of thinking and the leaders said {trust me}. The historical record shows what happened as the citizens turned a blind eye to much. They trusted what was a hope that killing millions of people would improve the country. And those that objected were murdered or deported.
The European fascists used the motto {the common good} and also the laws stated that one could not publically say or print anything that was not {conducive to the national welfare}. So this is nothing new, some of the words are analogous and changed, but the concept is the same.
When the swastika is displayed, it could be an insult to Jews in particular for it to be displayed. The swastika in a mental health community delivered to the readers via a web site by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies that support him, says volumes. It is refreshing to see that at least one member here objects to it being displayed by Mr. Hsiung here, and I do not think that clothing the swastika in the language of art immunizes Mr. Hsiung for displaying it. For his own rule is not to post {anything} about Nazis. That is a very broad prohibition and includes {anything} that could conjure up Nazis.
But be it as it may be, the aim of this community can be plainly seen.
Lou
Posted by 10derheart on July 16, 2014, at 17:55:38
In reply to Lou's response- wunmembrstndng » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2014, at 17:45:25
Posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2014, at 20:21:58
In reply to Where do you see a swastika? (nm) » Lou Pilder, posted by 10derheart on July 16, 2014, at 17:55:38
Click on the link that was provided by Dr Bob and the art when one scrolls through shows what to me is swastika. I showed my husband earlier today and asked him if it was and he felt it was also. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2014, at 20:34:14
In reply to Re: And the picture is..., posted by Dr. Bob on July 15, 2014, at 1:05:07
I can't believe I missed the p*nis palm tree picture of the man looking up at the top of the tree. The tree grew from the man's one groin area P*nis. I do not understand why this is posted here. If I wanted what is printed under some of the pistures as pornographic I would not have accessed this link. Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2014, at 23:53:08
In reply to Re: Where do you see a swastika? » 10derheart, posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2014, at 20:21:58
> Click on the link that was provided by Dr Bob and the art when one scrolls through shows what to me is swastika. I showed my husband earlier today and asked him if it was and he felt it was also.
Some of the art on the pages I linked to may upset some Babblers.
Bob
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2014, at 9:54:28
In reply to Re: trigger warning: my last post in this thread, posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2014, at 23:53:08
I don't understand why you would have linked to these pictures. Dr Bob pornography here? I do feel I strongly feel it's in appropriate and since you are the administrator of the site you can remove this like. And to post a trigger warning I feel brings more attention to the link in question. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2014, at 9:56:41
In reply to Re: trigger warning: my last post in this thread » Dr. Bob, posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2014, at 9:54:28
That was inappropriate no appropriate. Some may view this as art. I just don't. Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 18, 2014, at 0:36:24
In reply to Re: trigger warning: my last post in this thread » Dr. Bob, posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2014, at 9:54:28
> I don't understand why you would have linked to these pictures.
PC asked what the picture was, so I posted links to a couple pages that identified it, showed the whole work, and discussed it.
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 18, 2014, at 7:55:30
In reply to Re: why I posted those links, posted by Dr. Bob on July 18, 2014, at 0:36:24
> > I don't understand why you would have linked to these pictures.
>
> PC asked what the picture was, so I posted links to a couple pages that identified it, showed the whole work, and discussed it.
>
> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote, [....PC asked what the picture was (so that is the reason that I posted the link)...].
Now the crux of the matter here is if a reply can be uncivil and if the content of the link is or is not considered by you as civil or not. For your rule is to not post language that could offend others as being vulgar. Language can be extended from being just words, to be also pictures. The displaying of a swastika, although not a word, conveys what language could convey in words.
The depiction of nude women can be considered to be vulgar by advocacy groups for women's dignity and by religious groups to uphold the dignity of women.
The issues here extend beyond just your posting of the link. For if your rule can have an excuse to be broken, then your excuse could be seen as a mockery of your rules to not post what could lead one to feel put down or accused and to not post language that could offend others as being vulgar. Language does not have to be just in words, for symbols and pictures could convey what words could.
Then there is the aspect of if you can post links to offending content, and others can not. And there the aspect of if what is posted is a reply, then offensive content can be posted. But replies have to be civil, and there can not be used the excuse that the uncivil content is a reply which makes it civil, for in a discussion, most of the posts can be replies.
I am asking that you immediately delete the link to the pictures, for if you wanted to reply to the poster, that could be done without posting the link by citing work of the painter for PC to do a search about on PC's own without posting the pictures here.
Phillipa has a rational basis for objecting to you posting the link. This is because you have sanctioned vulgar words used here. Vulgar is vulgar regardless what form it is presented.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Phillipa on July 18, 2014, at 9:53:39
In reply to Re: why I posted those links, posted by Dr. Bob on July 18, 2014, at 0:36:24
Did you screen the pictures before posting the link. I personally think it was okay if you had posted a name of the artist and let PC explore. I am sure you know what that link showed is not the type of material for a mental health forum. I'm disappointed in you. And did you as of yet remove the picture link you posted I haven't looked as per your instructions in the past If one finds something or knows something they personally don't want access you. Didn't you say don't read it. Look in this case? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 18, 2014, at 21:03:41
In reply to Re: And the picture is..., posted by Dr. Bob on July 15, 2014, at 1:05:07
Still there it's absurd in my opinion and I'm guessing a lot of others. Should one post a notification to go to read this post and click on the link on another board? Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl2 on July 18, 2014, at 21:14:28
In reply to Re: And the picture is... » Dr. Bob, posted by Phillipa on July 18, 2014, at 21:03:41
So annoying
Posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 12:08:14
In reply to Must we be 'protected' from everything? C'mon now, posted by sleepygirl2 on July 18, 2014, at 21:14:28
Yes you are so correct it's very annoying to subject some to things they may find distasteful. And especially one that is yes offensive to those of the Jewish Faith. On this I back up Lou l00%. Do you prefer large or small penis trees? Personally I don't have one. Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 17:54:31
In reply to Re: Must we be 'protected' from everything? C'mon now » sleepygirl2, posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 12:08:14
I don't like penises in trees, I prefer the real kind. Lou is paranoid as hell, that's about him. All the website censorship in the world won't change that.
Posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 18:02:22
In reply to Re: Must we be 'protected' from everything? C'mon now, posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 17:54:31
So it's art. Would you prefer to have a pic of a real P*enis which I didn't asterick in previous post was in a hurry. Do you know for a fact that Lou is paranoid. I've written with him and he's logical and not paranoid at all. Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 19:59:02
In reply to So it's Art? » sleepygirl2, posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 18:02:22
Enjoy
http://penisart.org
Posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 20:20:23
In reply to Re: So it's Art? » Phillipa, posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 19:59:02
Are you a fan of Miley Cyrus? She also referred to her style as art Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 20:33:33
In reply to Re: So it's Art? » sleepygirl2, posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 20:20:23
Snarky much?
I just thought if you want to be offended we should go all out
Posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2014, at 21:01:01
In reply to Re: So it's Art? » Phillipa, posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 20:33:33
Takes a lot more to offend me remember I worked as a psych RN and also in a Jail
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 20, 2014, at 13:37:09
In reply to Re: Must we be 'protected' from everything? C'mon now, posted by sleepygirl2 on July 19, 2014, at 17:54:31
> I don't like penises in trees, I prefer the real kind. Lou is paranoid as hell, that's about him. All the website censorship in the world won't change that.
sleepygirl2,
You wrote, [...Lou is...].
What you wrote about me is false, and can induce hostile and disagreeable feelings toward me and decrease the respect , regard and confidence I which I am held, for I am not paranoid because I object to see a swastika displayed here by a psychiatrist that operates a mental-health forum for support and has strict rules to not allow anything that could lead one to feel put down or accused and to be sensitive to the feelings of others and not post language that could offend others. He also has a prohibition to me not to post anything about the regime that used the swastika. By posting a link that shows the swastika, that is something about that regime, for the prohibition is very broad as to not post {anything} concerning what the prohibition to me entails. The fact that I am objecting to Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to continue to allow anti-Semitic statements to be seen as civil where they are posted, could lead me to think that there could be a reasonable basis for me to think that his posting of the swastika in the link could be in some way involved in our discussion between me and him by the fact that he will not delete the link per my objection to him posting the swastika in the link. For he knows that I am objecting to his allowing of the anti-Semitic statements to be seen as civil where they are originally posted. That is contrary to his own rule to not post anything that could lead one to feel that their faith is being put down, and the swastika can lead a subset of Jewish readers to feel that their faith is being disrespected. They could have a rational basis to think that because this is a mental health forum that has rules to protect readers from having their feelings hurt by the nature that Mr. Hsiung has a rule to be sensitive to the feelings of others and the swastika can be sickening when seen by Jewish people. It can remind them of the horrors that were symbolized by the swastika and Jews could think that the allowing of the swastika here could have a part in bringing back a resurgence of hatred toward the Jews. After all, readers can do what the they see the psychiatrist do.
There are symbols that can enflame the sensibilities of peoples that are symbols of racial hatred. The swastika is illegal to be displayed in some jurisdictions, of which this site can reach into the homes there.
The display of the swastika here by the psychiatrist can IMHO lead a subset of readers to kill themselves and/or commit mass-murder. This is because that subset of readers could be taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor that can induce suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts and think that the swastika is supportive by the psychiatrist, since he posted it and what goes here is supposed to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole, according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking. So our young people that read here can be steered into thinking that the swastika is conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the group here. It could be seen by our young people as being validated by the psychiatrist and also the members that do not post an objection to him posting the link with the swastika in it. And besides myself, just Phillipa posted an objection here. So these young people, and adults, could have hatred toward the Jews ratified for them to commit acts of hatred toward Jews in schools, shopping malls, and synagogues and at Jewish centers.
Someone said it,[...A picture is worth a thousand words...].
Lou
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