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Posted by special_k on March 22, 2006, at 17:15:38
ok so finally... i can post from my own personal computer :-)
so now my problem is... where have all the new indicators gone?
i see new posts...
but i'm not getting the yellow flags.
why is this?
makes it really hard for me to find new posts...
would i be better to still log on and off the server?
Posted by 10derHeart on March 22, 2006, at 23:44:11
In reply to not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 22, 2006, at 17:15:38
Your computer's set to accept cookies from Babble, right?
'cause if it's not, don't think the site can distinguish which posts are new for you each visit...
I know privacy was/is a concern, but this is *your* very own pc, right? Hmmm, seems I recall another reason the yellow flags don't show up, but my memory fails me....
Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 13:53:11
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators. » special_k, posted by 10derHeart on March 22, 2006, at 23:44:11
> Your computer's set to accept cookies from Babble, right?
Yeah. Because it does just keep on accepting 'em.
> 'cause if it's not, don't think the site can distinguish which posts are new for you each visit...
Yeah. The trouble isn't that everything is marked as 'new' though, it is that nothing is marked as 'new'. It is remembering which posts I've opened (purple instead of blue) but just no new indicators on the new posts.
> I know privacy was/is a concern, but this is *your* very own pc, right?
:-)
Yeah.> Hmmm, seems I recall another reason the yellow flags don't show up, but my memory fails me....
I thought to have a look in the FAQ and... The plot thickens. Why is nothing ever simple? Sigh. I'll try to figure it out from there, thanks.
Posted by special_k on March 25, 2006, at 19:12:12
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators. » 10derHeart, posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 13:53:11
ok so the stuff in the FAQ is about when everything is new. i think that is right... when everything comes up with a new indicator but it shouldn't.
i'm not getting that problem, i'm getting the opposite problem of not having any new indicators even though some posts ARE new.
i deleted my cookies and my temporary folders.
the problem isn't just with babble it is with hotmail too.
in hotmail you get 'todays messages' or somesuch. mine don't come up there anymore (like they used to) but i find i have unread messages in my inbox - but they aren't shaded anymore. they don't seem to have anything to indicate that they are actually new messages.
with babble (after deleting cookies and temporary folders) i go to a page and everything is new. then i refresh the page and all the new indicators go away. then i refresh the page again and i see that there ARE new posts on the board but there aren't any new indicators.
the links i've followed are a different colour (purple instead of blue or whatever) but no new indicators on new posts.
so... if it is remembering which links i've clicked on why doesn't it remember that wsn't there before and put a new indicator on it?
thought it might help to save cookies to theserver and log on and off. but that isn't working for me anyway. i'll get new indicators of new posts from the time i logged off... but no new indicators for new posts in the time i am logged on.
i'm using internet explorer on windows XP.
any suggestions gratefully received...
(if i ignore you its probably cause i didn't spy the new post)
ak!
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 26, 2006, at 1:50:57
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 25, 2006, at 19:12:12
> with babble (after deleting cookies and temporary folders) i go to a page and everything is new. then i refresh the page and all the new indicators go away. then i refresh the page again and i see that there ARE new posts on the board but there aren't any new indicators.
It sounds like a cookie issue. You can try going to:
http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/extras.pl
and using the "display cookies" button to follow what happens to "babbletimes"...
Bob
Posted by special_k on March 26, 2006, at 3:10:01
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by Dr. Bob on March 26, 2006, at 1:50:57
ok so maybe this says something embarrasing about how much time i've been spending on here today but:
babbletimes admin=1143450862857:1143447912394;write=1143431313436:1143429951508;psycho=1143450717518:1143444209440;social=1143450770554:1143446147717;books=1143448064303:1143106127506;poli=1143448118311:1143437906476;relate=1143200398160:1142566271390;studs=1143091251729:1142840032142;orig=1143448055360:1143447648154;health=1143448103049:1143431749042;
__utmb 189866238
__utmz 189866238.1143368641.6.2.utmccn=(organic)|utmcsr=google|utmctr=diazepam|utmcmd=organic
__utmc 189866238
babblename special_ker... how does that help me?
is it helping anybody else?
ps i notice that when i try and 'delete cookies' from the site (in the extras) the button doesn't seem to be working. i know i have cookies enabled 'cause i get cookies. re javascript not sure what that is but if it has applets in it that might be blocked again 'cause i still don't think i can access open etc.
Posted by special_k on March 26, 2006, at 4:55:56
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 26, 2006, at 3:10:01
sorry i just don't really understand what that means and have no idea how to 'follow' what it is saying...
oh well. maybe i'll just get used to looking for blue headers after purple headers or something...
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 27, 2006, at 8:12:09
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 26, 2006, at 3:10:01
> with babble (after deleting cookies and temporary folders) i go to a page and everything is new. then i refresh the page and all the new indicators go away. then i refresh the page again and i see that there ARE new posts on the board but there aren't any new indicators.
> babbletimes admin=1143450862857:1143447912394;write=1143431313436:1143429951508;psycho=1143450717518:1143444209440;social=1143450770554:1143446147717;books=1143448064303:1143106127506;poli=1143448118311:1143437906476;relate=1143200398160:1142566271390;studs=1143091251729:1142840032142;orig=1143448055360:1143447648154;health=1143448103049:1143431749042;
OK, now does that change after you refresh the page?
Bob
Posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 10:48:12
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by Dr. Bob on March 27, 2006, at 8:12:09
babbletimes admin=1143651269921:1143587215176;write=1143588072049:1143550454177;psycho=1143588042486:1143550478172;social=1143587289794:1143552442687;books=1143455508968:1143448064303;poli=1143587734193:1143549568103;relate=1143200398160:1142566271390;studs=1143091251729:1142840032142;orig=1143552221659:1143530511655;health=1143448103049:1143431749042;
__utmb 189866238
__utmz 189866238.1143368641.6.2.utmccn=(organic)|utmcsr=google|utmctr=diazepam|utmcmd=organic
__utmc 189866238
babblename special_k
Posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 10:50:03
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 10:48:12
numbers get long and then i get confused...
:-(
so er... if they aren't changing... anybody have any ideas what to do?
i'm kinda getting used to looking for blue posts after purple ones... but i'd still quite like new indicators :-(
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 28, 2006, at 11:46:39
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 10:50:03
> so er... if they aren't changing... anybody have any ideas what to do?
Make sure Javascript and cookies are turned on:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#cookies
Bob
Posted by special_k on March 29, 2006, at 3:09:32
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by Dr. Bob on March 28, 2006, at 11:46:39
they are.
and i'm definately getting cookies...
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 4, 2006, at 11:54:21
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on March 29, 2006, at 3:09:32
> they are.
Both of them? Just to make sure, try:
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~explorit/java/IntroJavaScript.html
Bob
Posted by special_k on April 4, 2006, at 18:56:27
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by Dr. Bob on April 4, 2006, at 11:54:21
yep
said 'hello special_k'
:-)
Posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 11:23:15
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on April 4, 2006, at 18:56:27
though still not getting 'new' indicators...
:-(
bad babble :-(
Posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 20:48:54
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 11:23:15
i think it is some problem with java. because now the stupid computer won't let me read hotmail's (says there is an error on the page and won't open them and says something about java...)
Posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 21:37:03
help please...
i think it is a java problem...
i found this:
http://www.fixmypconline.com/worth a pop?
er...
not getting new indicators on posts.
if i clear cookies and temp. folders and history...
i get new indicators.
i get the links change from blue to purple (and that is remembered okay)
but if i refresh the page no new indicators even though there are new posts...last couple days the problem has progressed...
i can't open hotmail emails.
i put the curser over the link and this little txt thing comes up on the bottom left says something... has word 'java' in it...
try and click to open hotmail
and nothing happens but the message changes to 'errors on page'argh.
i dunno know what is wrong :-(
running windows xp
and internet explorer... not sure what version but i think it is most recent...
i didn't used to have this problem...started since...
wireless connection over here.
before that didn't use it on the net very much...
but it was working ok.
Posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 21:43:18
In reply to java problem help, posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 21:37:03
i have zonealarm...
maybe it isn't accessing something it should be able to ?have... sophos too...
but it says it can't update...
should do that automatically (we get it free via uni)
need to login to access
(the java windows pop up okay)
so i try and login and then should be able to wander around okay...
but it won't update... (if i try it says it can't connect to server)
and i can't use messenger either (can't connect to server)
and i still can't chat.whine whine whine
it is cold :-(
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 8, 2006, at 5:46:43
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on April 6, 2006, at 20:48:54
> i think it is some problem with java.
This site doesn't use Java itself...
Bob
Posted by special_k on April 10, 2006, at 1:29:59
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by Dr. Bob on April 8, 2006, at 5:46:43
> This site doesn't use Java itself...
but i need java to work to be able to use this site?
i'm very confused...
oh well. i guess not getting new indicators isn't such a major. bit of a pain... but nothing major...
Posted by special_k on April 10, 2006, at 3:48:46
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators. » Dr. Bob, posted by special_k on April 10, 2006, at 1:29:59
okay so now i am getting the new indicators *everywhere* even after refreshing the board.
if you fixed something...
you fixed it a little too good lol.
stupid computer.
please don't get sick :-(
Posted by special_k on April 10, 2006, at 4:00:24
In reply to Re: not getting new indicators., posted by special_k on April 10, 2006, at 3:48:46
i'll try saving cookies to the server again
seems to be working... but we shall see...
(for those still with us)
lol.
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