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Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 18, 2020, at 18:07:08
it's been 3 months since discharge from hospital im telling you phenibut withdrawl is hell, So....phenibut is a gabapentinoid (just like nuerontin and lyrica) but it's also a GABA-B agonist, and at high doses it reslemles a benzo, because it does hit GABA-A sites at high doses. It has antidepressant effect, and at some doses, its dependant, but it can cognitivly stimulating, it can put you in a good mood, creativty, with relaxation at the same time. Nuerontin has no effect on GABA sites, none. But one thing i notice, it's relaxing...it's an anticonvultant, but it has no, none effect on GABA. It's an analogue of GABA nuerotransmitter. It increases GABA concentrations, but has no effect on their actions (sites) it does take the shakes away, and has small antidepressant effect. Gabapentin has bad withdrawls too when abruptly stop it. Insomnia and a little bit of hell with it. Usally have a doctor under care, so you won't have to deal with raw withdrawl.
US there are lots of cases of withdrawls happened. During 2017-2019 the consumption or buying of it skyrocked, big time. Then that's when it became known to the FDA, of having to be hospitalized. But see lower doses, there fine, but you can't take phenibut more than 3-5 days because that's when tolerance comes. Lower doses are safe when taken for a few days, but people are bumping up the dose, that's whats happening.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 18, 2020, at 20:08:39
In reply to gabapentin vs phenibut, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 18, 2020, at 18:07:08
we'll FDA knows about before it was widely taken off sites. I don't know much about FDA, need to stop posting about it
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 19, 2020, at 23:23:20
In reply to Re: gabapentin vs phenibut, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 18, 2020, at 20:08:39
phenibut hits the gaba receptors, gabapentin does not, but it increases concetrations of gaba but not by site mechanism. There both gabapentinoids
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 26, 2020, at 12:57:11
In reply to Re: gabapentin vs phenibut, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 19, 2020, at 23:23:20
they both seem to have antidepressant effects, but phenibut is a bit more (hits the GABA sites) gabapentin does not, but it does increase the concentration.
when i was taking phenibut it had a relief calming feeling, i felt so calm when taking it, and really to tell your the truth, even if gabapentin was not controlled or presciption, if you stop gabapentin of course there is gonna be bad withdrawl, so phenibut is getting a bad rep because it's a gabapentinoid but....like i said even if you could take gabapentini without presciption, buy it at store, there would be withdrawls, so phenibut is getting a bad rep because of that
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