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Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by Hugh on July 13, 2020, at 11:07:52

In reply to Sleep Apnea, posted by Lamdage22 on July 12, 2020, at 11:44:49

I have a friend who was depressed for years, had tried a couple antidepressants, without success, and finally, at his wife's insistence, went to a sleep lab, where he was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea. He started using a CPAP, and his depression disappeared overnight.

Spending the night in a sleep lab would let you know whether or not you have sleep apnea. A lot of people don't like using a CPAP every night. The Pillar Procedure might help them.

 

Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 13, 2020, at 14:42:13

In reply to Re: Sleep Apnea, posted by Hugh on July 13, 2020, at 11:07:52

Yeah not all depressed patients need antidepressants. They make it look like that but many just don't.

I will see my primary care physician on Wednesday. From what I can gather it is very well possible that Sleep Apnea is causing these issues I have. I have had them for two weeks. It could be therapy that I have just started, but the conversations are not uncomfortable for me at all, so I think it must be something physical, not emotional.

 

Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 14, 2020, at 8:52:10

In reply to Re: Sleep Apnea, posted by Lamdage22 on July 13, 2020, at 14:42:13

It is a common occurence with Antipsychotics!
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20502129/

 

Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by Hugh on July 14, 2020, at 14:28:38

In reply to Sleep Apnea, posted by Lamdage22 on July 12, 2020, at 11:44:49

Another way of treating sleep apnea is by wearing an oral appliance at night.

http://prosomnusdentists.com/

If you have any jaw pain, or if your jaw ever clicks or pops while you're chewing, you could have temporomandibular disorder (TMD). People who have sleep apnea frequently also have TMD. This can also be treated by wearing an oral appliance.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3706181/

 

Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 15, 2020, at 5:57:52

In reply to Re: Sleep Apnea, posted by Hugh on July 14, 2020, at 14:28:38

Thanks, Hugh. I have a referral to a TNO doctor. However the one I usually go to is on vacation. Need to find somebody else. Also, I had a urine Aldosterone test and a blood test and both indicated extremely low Aldosterone. These are the two possible causes that I am looking into.

 

Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by stargazer2 on July 15, 2020, at 21:57:25

In reply to Re: Sleep Apnea, posted by Lamdage22 on July 15, 2020, at 5:57:52

my first thoght was the AP. how long have you been on Seroquel 700? I have never agreed to take any AP's because of the feared side effects. What are your symptoms for which Seroquel is prescibed?
thanks. I think you have your answer.

 

Re: Sleep Apnea

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 15, 2020, at 22:57:35

In reply to Re: Sleep Apnea, posted by stargazer2 on July 15, 2020, at 21:57:25

Seroquel is prescribed for paranoid thoughts and ideas of reference. Been on it for 7 years. I also take Zyprexa.

> my first thoght was the AP. how long have you been on Seroquel 700? I have never agreed to take any AP's because of the feared side effects. What are your symptoms for which Seroquel is prescibed?
> thanks. I think you have your answer.

 

I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 21, 2020, at 5:01:21

In reply to Re: Sleep Apnea, posted by Lamdage22 on July 15, 2020, at 22:57:35

I saw the ENT doctor. He thinks my tiredness is indeed caused by breathing problems during sleep. The nasal septum isn't straight, nasal concha (nasal turbinata) are way too large and the palate is flaccid, even when awake. I am scheduled for 6th of August to take the measuring device home. Mind you, I came up with this idea. I mean, eventually, the doctors would have but I have definitely speeded this process up.

I wish I could get the measuring device earlier. My progress at university suffers.

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 22, 2020, at 8:24:53

In reply to I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 21, 2020, at 5:01:21

Is there anything I can do right now? I feel like sh*t

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by undopaminergic on July 25, 2020, at 8:47:54

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 22, 2020, at 8:24:53

> Is there anything I can do right now? I feel like sh*t

Did your condition worsen as of late?

Try dancing, as vigorously you can, and with music you enjoy. Getting exhausted can take your worries away from other things. That said, I've only done this a few times.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 25, 2020, at 9:04:07

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by undopaminergic on July 25, 2020, at 8:47:54

Well, fatigue turned into depressed mood. I haven't felt like this in years. I would already be happy if I could mow the lawn. A doctor wanted to call me on friday but I guess he couldn't make it. I hope I can see him on monday.

> Did your condition worsen as of late?
>
> Try dancing, as vigorously you can, and with music you enjoy. Getting exhausted can take your worries away from other things. That said, I've only done this a few times.
>
> -undopaminergic
>

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 26, 2020, at 8:57:00

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 25, 2020, at 9:04:07

I have a resting pulse of 110. So if I dance, it might be my last one

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 26, 2020, at 14:50:57

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 26, 2020, at 8:57:00

Something changed metabolically. I eat mostly complete crap. Blood pressure and pulse is often much higher than usual.

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by undopaminergic on July 27, 2020, at 2:16:55

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 26, 2020, at 8:57:00

> I have a resting pulse of 110. So if I dance, it might be my last one

That's even higher than mine. Have you tried beta-blockers (eg. bisoprolol) or guanfacine (an alpha2-agonist)?

-undopaminergic

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2020, at 5:45:11

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by undopaminergic on July 27, 2020, at 2:16:55

Nope. I want to find the root cause and fix it. It really feels like it is something fixable. I have turned off the wireless lan yesterday and I feel somewhat better. I switched out the router two months ago. The new one is certainly stronger.

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2020, at 6:03:28

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2020, at 5:45:11

You know, it (I) was working before. Then it crept in that I took naps during the day etc. Something has changed and I think I can change it back!

 

Re: I was at the doctors

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 28, 2020, at 11:50:20

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2020, at 6:03:28

It is not sleep apnea. I have the new symptoms: Irritability, Weight gain, Carb craving. Unusually High blood pressure and pulse. Feel like crap after sleeping. General unwell feeling. Depressed mood. Extreme fatigue.

 

Not sleep apnea

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 28, 2020, at 11:51:28

In reply to Re: I was at the doctors, posted by Lamdage22 on July 28, 2020, at 11:50:20

The above plus difficulty concentrating.

 

Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 29, 2020, at 13:20:28

In reply to Not sleep apnea, posted by Lamdage22 on July 28, 2020, at 11:51:28

Maybe it is just Neuroleptic Side Effects?

 

Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by undopaminergic on July 29, 2020, at 15:36:46

In reply to Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?, posted by Lamdage22 on July 29, 2020, at 13:20:28

> Maybe it is just Neuroleptic Side Effects?

Rather than getting worse, usually the side effects diminish over time with continued usage.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 30, 2020, at 0:09:55

In reply to Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?, posted by undopaminergic on July 29, 2020, at 15:36:46

Yes but not if the blood levels increase due to a change in cytochrome P450

 

Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by undopaminergic on July 30, 2020, at 3:10:58

In reply to Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?, posted by Lamdage22 on July 30, 2020, at 0:09:55

> Yes but not if the blood levels increase due to a change in cytochrome P450

Have you done something (maybe eating something new or starting to smoke) that might alter the CYP450?

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 30, 2020, at 3:20:21

In reply to Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?, posted by undopaminergic on July 30, 2020, at 3:10:58

Not recently. Im thinking of a tardive inhibition of CYP by something. Or maybe my body just changed. Maybe I will let them control blood levels of my meds and levels of the most important enzymes? I just wonder why this is happening to me!!!

 

Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by undopaminergic on July 30, 2020, at 3:35:05

In reply to Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?, posted by Lamdage22 on July 30, 2020, at 3:20:21

> Not recently. Im thinking of a tardive inhibition of CYP by something. Or maybe my body just changed. Maybe I will let them control blood levels of my meds and levels of the most important enzymes? I just wonder why this is happening to me!!!
>

Maybe it's psychological.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 30, 2020, at 3:54:29

In reply to Re: Higher Neuroleptic level due metabolism change?, posted by undopaminergic on July 30, 2020, at 3:35:05

That would make sense.


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