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Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 28, 2020, at 19:08:52
say it really quick: its the most general benzo, good ole' joe benzo, takes care of generalized anxiety, and feeling tense. I noticed this difference between other benzos, But compared to lorazepam, its less potent, people get more addicted to loraz because it's potent and its very effective for anxiety, severe anxiety. Like emegency situations. Alprazolam - valium is boring compared to xanax, xanax has a slight, not sure if its a high, or pleasant feeling, but it has antidepressant properties. It's the most common benzo prescribed in the US.
I've noticed valium slumps, or valiumized, your calm but boring, apathetic state, but when it gets up to 20-40mg it causes more relaxation. But it's general, you what im saying, it hardly has any characteristic to it besides easing up muscle tension. For severe anxiety = not a good option, unless higher doses are used, ativan and xanax kick *ss on severe anxiety and panic attacks. More potent, you feel the effect more, and more something to lookf forward too. Valium isn't really like that. Severe anxiety you would still have a lurky feeling in the background
librium is the least potent, and addictive benzo, very weak effects, they used to use it in alcohol rehabs. If you took alot of librium it would be like taking bromide
Posted by rjlockhart37 on April 29, 2020, at 17:25:17
In reply to last review of diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 28, 2020, at 19:08:52
like i took a 10mg last night for sleep, all it did was yeah calm feeling, but i felt dull and apathic, and to fully equally match it with like ativan 2mg tablet, the max tablet for ativan and xanax is 2mg, their potent, but diazepam is less potent, from my own seeing it's about 15mg of diazpeam to match ativan, and 20mg to match xanax You talking to a person who has addiction history, and i know all about euphoria drugs, valium is just valium, there's not much charastics to it, you just get a calm, sometimes apathy, makes you irresonsible sometimes. Lorazepam, in hospitals they use it all the time to sedate or give to patients for anxiety or sedation, you almost never see diazepam anymore. When it first came out, yeah it was blockbuster, in the 1970s it was such a common household name, almost everone had it like asprin. Then xanax and ativan came out, people moved away from diazepam because those are more potent and some mood improvement.
i took 10mg last night, i was not in a good mood, valium slump. It takes about 15mg of it to match ativan, and 20mg to match xanax 2mg. I'm being serious, im a person who knows about addiction, long history of it. Been to 4 rehabs, i know how all of it works. So i just say valium is not much recreational at all, its just calming down, but not for severe anxiety.
Anyways, i know this may be irrtating to reed but putting what experienced, with history with other euphric drugs.
anyways....
loggin out
Posted by Jadde on April 30, 2020, at 7:42:20
In reply to Re: last review of diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on April 29, 2020, at 17:25:17
> like i took a 10mg last night for sleep, all it did was yeah calm feeling, but i felt dull and apathic, and to fully equally match it with like ativan 2mg tablet, the max tablet for ativan and xanax is 2mg, their potent, but diazepam is less potent, from my own seeing it's about 15mg of diazpeam to match ativan, and 20mg to match xanax You talking to a person who has addiction history, and i know all about euphoria drugs, valium is just valium, there's not much charastics to it, you just get a calm, sometimes apathy, makes you irresonsible sometimes. Lorazepam, in hospitals they use it all the time to sedate or give to patients for anxiety or sedation, you almost never see diazepam anymore. When it first came out, yeah it was blockbuster, in the 1970s it was such a common household name, almost everone had it like asprin. Then xanax and ativan came out, people moved away from diazepam because those are more potent and some mood improvement.
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> i took 10mg last night, i was not in a good mood, valium slump. It takes about 15mg of it to match ativan, and 20mg to match xanax 2mg. I'm being serious, im a person who knows about addiction, long history of it. Been to 4 rehabs, i know how all of it works. So i just say valium is not much recreational at all, its just calming down, but not for severe anxiety.
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> Anyways, i know this may be irrtating to reed but putting what experienced, with history with other euphric drugs.
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> anyways....
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> loggin outHello. Nope, not irritating at all. So whats your take on Klonopin? How does it rank (in your opinion) to the others youve mentioned?
Jade
Posted by rjlockhart37 on May 1, 2020, at 22:49:41
In reply to Re: last review of diazepam » rjlockhart37, posted by Jadde on April 30, 2020, at 7:42:20
klonopin was alot stronger, it's potent. I took it for a year after high svhool, in early days of campus years. It would knock out dexedrine induced insomnia, or dexamphetamine induced, it just hit and i felt all this relief from stress induced amphetmaine.
It's alot more potent, and that's thing why many peopl have problems, its potent relief of anxiety, and that you have to have it.
its good for panic attacks. See, other people react diffrently to each benzo.... bring sources that i've seen on net, but klonopin is known to make your mood lower, it doesn't something with the serotonin receptor sites.
4mg a night, would be a perfect sleeping medication, but during the day, you would be sedated and not in a good mood. WHen i started .5mg X 3 days, i noticed slight relief of anxiety, it took the edge off, then again as moved to 1-2mg noticed sedation and low mood. But absoluettly no anxiety. It's potent benzo. Long lasting too, only thing that confused me about being long lasting was it didnt last long for me, it lasted about 5-6 hours then phsycnological effect was gone.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on May 1, 2020, at 22:53:42
In reply to Re: last review of diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on May 1, 2020, at 22:49:41
valium is compared to klonpoin is has more muscle relaxation, and slight less potency. klono is good for severe anxiety, diazepam not so much....
valium slump compared to a klonopin slump, klono was worse, it just made me feel depressed. other just someitmes makes me feel like if the end of the world was tommorow, wouldnt really care, feel apathic and a bit irrestpoble
Posted by rjlockhart37 on May 5, 2020, at 18:46:28
In reply to Re: last review of diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on May 1, 2020, at 22:53:42
valium seems more relaxing, while klonopin is more sedation
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