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GABA supplement with diazepam

Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 21, 2020, at 19:16:20

i made a post earlier, ill tell what happened, for a long time, my doctor didnt really help me with anxiety, she said you need coping skills and stay on zyprexa, well i said screw that and i started taking phenibut for a long time. It does not give a benzo feeling, there not much recreational, its basically the most mild anxiolic, but it does work. But....the withdrawl from this drug is hell, i abrublty stopped by taking a moderate amount for anixety during the day, i went through withdrawl, i could not sleep, i didnt want to eat, i had this primal fear feeling like indooming prededation, it was bad experience, so i wnet to my doctor, i told her and we discussed, i was shaking and i was clammy and sweating, and she read and saw phenibut can cause siezures by abrubly stopping it at moderate to high amount.

put me on diazepam, at first i could sleep, and the anixety was toned down, but like i said diazepam is just good ole' joe benzo, there not much charastics to it, its not euphoric, it just provides relief, if taken at higher doses produces relaxation and feeling everything is ok. Nothing like xanax, or ativan, its more general. But after time, i noticed when taking it the effects were starting to become less, and what happened was when you hit your GABA receptyors too much, either tolerance, or i read you damage them. So, i've had to start taking GABA supplement, the kinda at the nutrition store. To restore my gaba levels, and yes it did work, i felt the relief again. But i always to take GABA supplement with diazepam to have a adequite relief, diazpeam by itself has little effect, and i think its due to tolerance or damage to gaba sites.

i've gotten online and asked prayer for restoration of sites in the brain. But phenibut was used for years to deal with this horrible anxiety, and my doctor just blowing it off and saying leave meds where they are. It's withdrawals are hell, 3-7 days of no sleep, or little sleep, clammy hands, shaking like more nervous not seizure like, and it was terrible. Phenibut is not euphoric, its not a substance to be concerned about abuse, its just the withdrawal, like caffeine wearing off feeling crashed tired, but the effect lasts 3-6 days until equilibrium is done. It effects beta sites of GABA, while benzodiazepines work at the alphra sites of gaba, only benzo that hits beta gaba sites, is bromazepam.

dealing iwth all this, its really miserable, and i don't anyone to call or tell, so i just post status online. I don't care if the internet reads it, i don't have resources for therapist, friends, nothing. Only using creativity, and i don't know beutifl mind to compensate for not being able to talk. You just start seeing things differently. Times like these you have to be smart and figure things out, when there's no one there.

Anyways, just needed to post it because i had to vent it, at least this feels a vent to let it out let be known. Thanks for reading, friend.

r

 

Re: GABA supplement with diazepam

Posted by undopaminergic on March 22, 2020, at 8:12:22

In reply to GABA supplement with diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 21, 2020, at 19:16:20

>
> put me on diazepam, at first i could sleep, and the anixety was toned down, but like i said diazepam is just good ole' joe benzo, there not much charastics to it, its not euphoric, it just provides relief, if taken at higher doses produces relaxation and feeling everything is ok. Nothing like xanax, or ativan, its more general. But after time, i noticed when taking it the effects were starting to become less, and what happened was when you hit your GABA receptyors too much, either tolerance, or i read you damage them.
>

The GABA receptors are probably not "damaged" but they adapt to the drug, becoming desensitised. Even if they were damaged, that is not the end of the world, because new receptors will be synthesised, although that will take some time.


> So, i've had to start taking GABA supplement, the kinda at the nutrition store. To restore my gaba levels, and yes it did work, i felt the relief again. But i always to take GABA supplement with diazepam to have a adequite relief, diazpeam by itself has little effect, and i think its due to tolerance or damage to gaba sites.
>

I've read that if GABA supplements work, that is, they produce central/psychotropic effects, it means you have a "leaky" blood brain barrier.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: GABA supplement with diazepam

Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 22, 2020, at 16:39:03

In reply to Re: GABA supplement with diazepam, posted by undopaminergic on March 22, 2020, at 8:12:22

yup i do, when i take GABA it hits really hard, but see thing is i've had a other issues where thinking that diazepam or phenbut takes a long time to cross the BBB (blood-brain-barrier) yet when i take GABA with diazepam, goodness the relief it gives, rather than taking it on its own, with hardly any effects. Tolerance definitely happened from taking phenibut for long time, then switching to diazepam, GABA receptors adapted or the become unreactive when those hitters are taken away. Have mega multiply it with GABA supplement to compensate with the tolerance. It sucks. Somtimes ill take meds, not the ones i've said, but like prozac some days there no effect, other days i feel it working, its really scrambled why brain adapts then unadapts.

 

Re: GABA supplement with diazepam

Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 22, 2020, at 16:44:12

In reply to Re: GABA supplement with diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 22, 2020, at 16:39:03

it just sucks, that i have to take GABA supplement with gaba inducing meds, i've freaked out about it, had grueling dark thoughts about them not working. Getting online and getting prayed for that my brain sites would be equilibrium, all i have to say, just out of my vent : it sucks having to take GABA supplement to help diazepam or other GABA meds to have a full effect. It burdens me, only thing i can do i ask god, higher power for supernatural healing .

 

Re: GABA supplement with diazepam rjlockhart37

Posted by Jadde on March 27, 2020, at 20:37:07

In reply to GABA supplement with diazepam, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 21, 2020, at 19:16:20

> i made a post earlier, ill tell what happened, for a long time, my doctor didnt really help me with anxiety, she said you need coping skills and stay on zyprexa, well i said screw that and i started taking phenibut for a long time. It does not give a benzo feeling, there not much recreational, its basically the most mild anxiolic, but it does work. But....the withdrawl from this drug is hell, i abrublty stopped by taking a moderate amount for anixety during the day, i went through withdrawl, i could not sleep, i didnt want to eat, i had this primal fear feeling like indooming prededation, it was bad experience, so i wnet to my doctor, i told her and we discussed, i was shaking and i was clammy and sweating, and she read and saw phenibut can cause siezures by abrubly stopping it at moderate to high amount.
>
> put me on diazepam, at first i could sleep, and the anixety was toned down, but like i said diazepam is just good ole' joe benzo, there not much charastics to it, its not euphoric, it just provides relief, if taken at higher doses produces relaxation and feeling everything is ok. Nothing like xanax, or ativan, its more general. But after time, i noticed when taking it the effects were starting to become less, and what happened was when you hit your GABA receptyors too much, either tolerance, or i read you damage them. So, i've had to start taking GABA supplement, the kinda at the nutrition store. To restore my gaba levels, and yes it did work, i felt the relief again. But i always to take GABA supplement with diazepam to have a adequite relief, diazpeam by itself has little effect, and i think its due to tolerance or damage to gaba sites.
>
> i've gotten online and asked prayer for restoration of sites in the brain. But phenibut was used for years to deal with this horrible anxiety, and my doctor just blowing it off and saying leave meds where they are. It's withdrawals are hell, 3-7 days of no sleep, or little sleep, clammy hands, shaking like more nervous not seizure like, and it was terrible. Phenibut is not euphoric, its not a substance to be concerned about abuse, its just the withdrawal, like caffeine wearing off feeling crashed tired, but the effect lasts 3-6 days until equilibrium is done. It effects beta sites of GABA, while benzodiazepines work at the alphra sites of gaba, only benzo that hits beta gaba sites, is bromazepam.
>
> dealing iwth all this, its really miserable, and i don't anyone to call or tell, so i just post status online. I don't care if the internet reads it, i don't have resources for therapist, friends, nothing. Only using creativity, and i don't know beutifl mind to compensate for not being able to talk. You just start seeing things differently. Times like these you have to be smart and figure things out, when there's no one there.
>
> Anyways, just needed to post it because i had to vent it, at least this feels a vent to let it out let be known. Thanks for reading, friend.
>
> r

Hi there,

Sounds like you are going thru a tough time. I know nothing about your meds, but I sure know what a bad withdrawal feels like. It stinks. And loneliness or the feeling you have no one to talk to doesnt help. Can you get outside to sit, walk, jog etc? I know for me this is essential right now. Just seeing other ppl, kids playing at the park, dog walkers, helps my mood so much.

Ive taken lots of meds over the years, and my brain, after many insults, has always recovered. I bet this will happen to you as well.

I will say a prayer for you. Just in case :)

Jade


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