Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1108951

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Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by Skeletor on March 11, 2020, at 17:40:41

As far as I am informed you need stimulants for treatment of ADHD. Most commonly used are Methylphenidate and Atomoxetine. Sometimes stuff like Bupropion is applied. But what about classic antidepressants with stimulant (NRI) properties? Let's say Desipramine or Nortriptyline, Reboxetine!? Can they help to some degree?

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 11, 2020, at 21:15:47

In reply to Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by Skeletor on March 11, 2020, at 17:40:41

yes with attention wise, norepinephrine keeps you alert and sharp, but some people too much causes stress and too much norepinephrine feeling. Yes it cam, but not .. as much as the traditional stimulants do. They also can be add on to a stimulant, but that's not advisable. NE overload.

Alertness and attention, and some concentration are related with NE. Reboxetine, although i've never heard anyone using it here, you have to take 2 times a day, and its known not good for depression. But others desicprimine have yes, some benefit.

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by undopaminergic on March 12, 2020, at 10:33:11

In reply to Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by Skeletor on March 11, 2020, at 17:40:41

> As far as I am informed you need stimulants for treatment of ADHD. Most commonly used are Methylphenidate and Atomoxetine. Sometimes stuff like Bupropion is applied. But what about classic antidepressants with stimulant (NRI) properties? Let's say Desipramine or Nortriptyline, Reboxetine!? Can they help to some degree?
>

Can? Yes. But not in my experience.

Reboxetine caused lasting depersonalisation for me. At the time, it was welcome, but now I want my emotions and sense of reality back.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by Christ_empowered on March 13, 2020, at 10:21:39

In reply to Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by Skeletor on March 11, 2020, at 17:40:41

-if- I recall correctly (always a big -if- ...), the antidepressants -in children- didn't do much for core ADHD, but the teachers liked that the kids were more manageable. kinda depressing, actually. :-(

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 13, 2020, at 20:55:28

In reply to Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by Christ_empowered on March 13, 2020, at 10:21:39

wellbutrin seems to be the only one, even in kids to be a small good effect for depression and ADHD, strattera, it's classified as NRI, but its main mechanism is treating attention and alertness in ADHD.

took it when it first came out in 2002, i noticed in class i payed attention to the board where they were teaching chemical periodic tables, and going over them for quizzes, made me a little bit more alert and attentive. 12 years started again, prozac and strattera do not mix. I was irritable making fast irritable comments about everything, i had to stop it.

wellbutrin and strattera are main ones for ADHD that are inhibitors, also to desipramine, other tricyclic antidepressants

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by Skeletor on March 15, 2020, at 8:31:19

In reply to Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 13, 2020, at 20:55:28

> wellbutrin seems to be the only one, even in kids to be a small good effect for depression and ADHD, strattera, it's classified as NRI, but its main mechanism is treating attention and alertness in ADHD.
>

Does Strattera possess other properties besides being an NRI?

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by undopaminergic on March 15, 2020, at 9:05:30

In reply to Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by Skeletor on March 15, 2020, at 8:31:19

> > wellbutrin seems to be the only one, even in kids to be a small good effect for depression and ADHD, strattera, it's classified as NRI, but its main mechanism is treating attention and alertness in ADHD.
> >
>
> Does Strattera possess other properties besides being an NRI?
>

Yes, it is a kappa opioid receptor agonist. This is potentially a serious issue, because this action can cause depression and depersonalisation.

That said, it seemed harmless enough for me.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 15, 2020, at 20:01:18

In reply to Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by undopaminergic on March 15, 2020, at 9:05:30

yeah one my doctors told it works on serotonin too, but ... there not alot of evidence it does. It's not a antidepressant, but can enhance norephrine and attention and alertness. reboxetine is less effective as antidepressant, many articles i've read gave negative reviews, not only treating depression, making it worse.

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2020, at 9:25:31

In reply to Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 15, 2020, at 20:01:18

A celly in the psychward found Reboxetine really good for depression. I react better to Trazodone than to almost everything else (If side effects are added to the equation). It's not all black and white, like "this is good, this is bad". If one thing helped me get relief, it is to keep an open mind.

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by creepy on March 27, 2020, at 12:47:06

In reply to Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by Skeletor on March 11, 2020, at 17:40:41

I get no help from my ADD with desipramine. Absolutely none. =(

 

Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?

Posted by Skeletor on April 1, 2020, at 11:07:19

In reply to Re: Can NRIs help with ADHD?, posted by creepy on March 27, 2020, at 12:47:06

> I get no help from my ADD with desipramine. Absolutely none. =(
>

What helps you?


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