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Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 7:31:48

So I got extremely good DHEA, very good HGH, but I lack some Testosterone. I will use gel and will keep you posted. I lack assertiveness like crazy. That's what it does, it makes you more assertive. It could be the meds that are lowering the testosterone. Or it could be the Metformin.

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by undopaminergic on February 25, 2020, at 9:36:04

In reply to Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 7:31:48

> So I got extremely good DHEA, very good HGH, but I lack some Testosterone. I will use gel and will keep you posted. I lack assertiveness like crazy. That's what it does, it makes you more assertive.
>

Androgens such as testosterone do many things. They are prized for their anabolic effects (enhancing the growth of muscle tissue), and they are, more than any other substance known, responsible for libido (sex drive). Additionally they contribute to male pattern baldness, and conversely, facial and body hair. They make the skin more greasy, often leading to acne. As for assertiveness, this effect is an aspect of increased competitive behaviours, which in extreme cases translates to aggression.

I've also read testosterone can have antidepressant effects.

I hope you get the effect you are looking for. Good luck!

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 10:10:58

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by undopaminergic on February 25, 2020, at 9:36:04

Aggression is not all bad

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by undopaminergic on February 25, 2020, at 10:17:57

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 10:10:58

> Aggression is not all bad

I agree. Everything has its time and place.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 13:23:19

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by undopaminergic on February 25, 2020, at 10:17:57

T is at 3,3 ng/ml. 1,8-7,8 is the normal range.

So I might double my current level and i think this should change how I feel and act. Nobody likes to admit that T is low. It's probably medications, but still.

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by undopaminergic on February 26, 2020, at 2:40:04

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 13:23:19

> Nobody likes to admit that T is low. It's probably medications, but still.
>

Really? I wouldn't mind admitting it.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 27, 2020, at 4:59:11

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by undopaminergic on February 26, 2020, at 2:40:04

I wish i could take it yesterday! Maybe I can inspire some guys here. It blows my mind that people in their 60s dont get tested for testosterone when they have TRD!

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 27, 2020, at 5:07:16

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 27, 2020, at 4:59:11

Well see

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Hugh on February 27, 2020, at 14:18:46

In reply to Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 7:31:48

Have you had your estradiol level checked? High estrogen can drive down free testosterone levels, even if you're taking supplemental testosterone. Arimidex will get estradiol levels way down, even too low if you take too much. It's a breast cancer drug, but bodybuilders take a much lower dose -- 0.25 or 0.5 mg, two or three times a week -- to get their estrogen down and their free testosterone up.

This is an informative article about male hormone resoration:

https://www.lifeextension.com/protocols/male-reproductive/male-hormone-restoration

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 27, 2020, at 14:57:31

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Hugh on February 27, 2020, at 14:18:46

Thanks. People on the Bodybuilding board that I frequent say I don't have low testosterone at all. So hmm. I may not take the testosterone.

It will kill your own production

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by undopaminergic on February 28, 2020, at 2:56:46

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 27, 2020, at 14:57:31

> Thanks. People on the Bodybuilding board that I frequent say I don't have low testosterone at all. So hmm. I may not take the testosterone.
>
> It will kill your own production

It will, but you can counteract that. With hCG, if I recall correctly. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin. Ask the bodybuilders, some of them will know for sure.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 28, 2020, at 3:53:02

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by undopaminergic on February 28, 2020, at 2:56:46

I may take Hcg in the first place. Thanks for mentioning.

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 28, 2020, at 13:22:00

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 28, 2020, at 3:53:02

Nah, HCG can cause depression. Plus, I am on a pretty hardcore Diet. That alone can lower Testosterone.

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Hugh on February 29, 2020, at 10:53:08

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 28, 2020, at 13:22:00

The beta-blocker nebivolol causes a significant increase in testosterone.

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f30/nebivolol-a-beta-blocker-that-increases-testosterone-increases-testosterone-with-106579/

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by bleauberry on March 6, 2020, at 18:47:03

In reply to Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on February 25, 2020, at 7:31:48

You can also just take L-Arginine, one capsule per day, and Pine Bark Extract, one cap per day. In combination these really pump up natural production of testosterone.

Years ago I tested very low on testosterone. I was prescribed the gel. It helped but not in the way you are expecting. There is no way it is going to overcome all those meds. It will be drowned out by the pharmaceuticals. But at least you will know it's in the right range. It is important for anti-aging, bone strength, and a lot of stuff.

I ended up stopping the gel because there is a significant risk of heart attacks and stuff. Most docs fail to give you the dose you need to restore your testosterone to normal, and instead just give a standard dose size to everybody. With gel you can of course modify your own dosage pretty easy. My testosterone fell again after stopping, and then I started the supplements instead. My testosterone was tested a couple months ago and was at the high normal range.

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2020, at 15:40:43

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by bleauberry on March 6, 2020, at 18:47:03

Hi bleauberry,

thanks for posting. I am already taking L-Arginine, but I will look into pine bark extract. I have been on a 1000 kcal deficit diet since November and my fat intake was low. So there is still hope for me to naturally have enough Testosterone once the diet is over. Now I am aiming at 500 kcal deficit and much more healthy fat in my diet. Testosterone is always good for fitness goals, so I'll definitely look into Pine Bark extract.

The other suggestion can cause depression, so to me it is a no-go.

How are you doing? It's good to have you back! In what ways did the Gel help you and in what ways didn't it?

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks Lamdage22

Posted by bleauberry on March 10, 2020, at 19:23:23

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks, posted by Lamdage22 on March 7, 2020, at 15:40:43

Hi Lamdage22,

Another good synergistic add-on to l-arginine is watermelon. Not in any particular dose. Just eat some watermelon a few times a week.

I really couldn't tell if having testosterone at the normal level or at a high level was helpful for anything that I could feel in a big way. I know it's good for bone health and other stuff. In terms of mood, energy, sex, whatever, I think there is a little something there in all those categories, but to me it feels subtle.

I'm doing ok. Thank you for asking. My old Lyme came back, triggered by a moldy house I lived in, so I am back in that fight again and not sure I will ever win it. In terms of psychiatry though, that horrible treatment resistant depression I used to have is gone, I get some blue days now and then but not a lot. My lingering symptom that probably needs medication is amotivation and maybe a mild degree of anhedonia. I think with me those are permanent. I'm trying some supplements for that but the best thing in my experience was Ritalin so I might go there again.

I hope you have a smooth week.

> Hi bleauberry,
>
> thanks for posting. I am already taking L-Arginine, but I will look into pine bark extract. I have been on a 1000 kcal deficit diet since November and my fat intake was low. So there is still hope for me to naturally have enough Testosterone once the diet is over. Now I am aiming at 500 kcal deficit and much more healthy fat in my diet. Testosterone is always good for fitness goals, so I'll definitely look into Pine Bark extract.
>
> The other suggestion can cause depression, so to me it is a no-go.
>
> How are you doing? It's good to have you back! In what ways did the Gel help you and in what ways didn't it?

 

Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks

Posted by Lamdage22 on March 11, 2020, at 3:18:49

In reply to Re: Guys, i will be on Testosterone Gel in two weeks Lamdage22, posted by bleauberry on March 10, 2020, at 19:23:23

Oh ok. For some people, Testosterone seems to be pretty profound. I am still looking into Pine Bark Extract. It can help depression and testosterone but I wonder if it will be ok with my meds.

Didn't you want to move to texas? how did that go?


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