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My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by greg rizzo on February 2, 2020, at 13:28:02

For anyone interested: I have been working on a Nardil formulation that works similarly to the pre-2003 formula made by Parke Davis.
I used to just barely drag myself out of bed, no energy, many very down days, no hope, much frustration, and so down my thoughts often involved suicide.
Now-I get up much earlier with optomistic hopes for the day. Not a down day since I started, goodly amounts of energy, and NO thoughts of suicide. It has literally changed my life amazingly-very similar to the days of the Parke Davis formula. Everyone's experience is different, but to me it is truly a miracle.
The ingredients are all listed in a previous post so if you're interested you can look it up.
I began the new formulation on January 11, 2019 so I have been on it 3 weeks and one day; I THINK long enough to have proven the concept.

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by greg rizzo on February 2, 2020, at 13:31:08

In reply to My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by greg rizzo on February 2, 2020, at 13:28:02

BTW--I posted this under "start a new thread' so I don't know why it here and in a new thread. Sorry.

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by sigismund on February 2, 2020, at 15:44:35

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by greg rizzo on February 2, 2020, at 13:31:08

But it is a new thread, isn't it?

I have often thought of Nardil.

What's the worst side effect for you?

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by greg rizzo on February 2, 2020, at 16:20:52

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by sigismund on February 2, 2020, at 15:44:35

I'm very fortunate:I have absolutely zero side effects. My psych doc has a lot of experience with MAOI's and prescribes them often. I concur with him that the tyramine/hypertensive crisis is way off the mark and way over exaggerated (as long as dose is correct for patient). The PDA (Physician's Desk Reference) literature about MAOI's role as such a bad actor and threat to life, that the vast majority of psych docs won't even mention it as an option for TRD (Treatment Resistant Depression). Such a shame.

I already know I'll catch a bunch of flak for my & my psych doc's opinion. All I know is that I went thru the gamet of trying a gazillion SSRI's, SSNI's, and even trycyclics, I was ready to give up on life. Until 1988 when I started on Nardil. It was the Gold Standard for TRD coupled with social phobia---until Pfizer f....ed it up in 2003.

Sorry I got so wordy - this is a subject close to my heart that is regularly denied needy patients because of over exaggerated risks. And yes critics, there have been some tyramine and hypertensive crisises in the literature. Nothing is absolutely perfect. But when nothing else works, are you willing to try something that may have a bit of risk, but one that could turn out to be a panacea for you? Each must decide for themselves.

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by undopaminergic on February 3, 2020, at 2:43:39

In reply to My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by greg rizzo on February 2, 2020, at 13:28:02

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> I began the new formulation on January 11, 2019 so I have been on it 3 weeks and one day; I THINK long enough to have proven the concept.
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You mean 2020.

Congratulations on your success!

-undopaminergic

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 3, 2020, at 8:31:36

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by undopaminergic on February 3, 2020, at 2:43:39

How did you end up taking the Nardil? Enteric capsules? Additional excipients in or outside of the capsule? Antacid?

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by greg rizzo on February 3, 2020, at 15:42:21

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by Lamdage22 on February 3, 2020, at 8:31:36

I'll give you a list of what worked for me. To pay credit where credit is due, Dr. Bob of this site had some ideas I used or modified. You really should read his post.
The list:
1. An antacid--can be Prilosec, Omeprazole, even Rolaids. Some believe this is unnessary or overkill because of the use of enteric capsules. I disagree because the acidic nature of the stomach loves to chew things up and send to the liver for excretion. I may be wrong, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
2. 75mg Nardil (not crushed, used whole) placed into empty enteric cellulose capsules. I hear Plasmin Plus may be the best so may switch to these.
3. Swanson's Bioperine 20 mg (From Amazon)(supposed to aid in absorbtion/bioavailability of meds/other.
4. Invert sugar (honey-maybe a tbs). According to Dr. Bob 2 things increase absorbtion of Nardil in the intestine. One is sugar invert, and the other is:
5. Alcohol--In his words you don't have to throw back shots of tequila, just a few drops will do. So every morning I have a small dose of vodka.
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Judge and do as you wish. All I know is that the above formula makes Nardil work like it used to for me, and I am thankful for this miracle.

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 4, 2020, at 9:22:51

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by greg rizzo on February 3, 2020, at 15:42:21

Im not against anything that helps. Fascinating! I hope you continue to have these benefits! Where is Dr-bobs post?

Is the certificate of this website gone? I got a warning when I clicked on Post follow up. Is anyone fixing it?

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working Lamdage22

Posted by undopaminergic on February 4, 2020, at 10:25:40

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by Lamdage22 on February 4, 2020, at 9:22:51

> Is the certificate of this website gone? I got a warning when I clicked on Post follow up. Is anyone fixing it?
>

I encountered that issue too. Now, Firefox displays, on top of the lock icon, a yellow triangle with a white exclamation mark in it, and when I point at it, it displays a message that reads: "You have added a security exception for this site.".

I'll report this to Dr. Bob by e-mail.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by greg rizzo on February 4, 2020, at 15:20:10

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working, posted by Lamdage22 on February 4, 2020, at 9:22:51

To read his post, go to search option. Make sure you search the option 'dr-Bob.org' not www, although this may work too-haven't tried that option.are then type in the search bar-'Nardil with sugar invert and alcohol by Dr. Bob'. When I finally found his post again, my computer gave me 'unsafe to proceed to site."
I ignored the warning and read his post again with no problems.
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Here is the post to save you time:
In reply to Old and New Nardil - Here's the difference, posted by Michael Bell on February 16, 2006, at 22:18:50
> The best excipients to aid absorption into the small intestine are sugar invert (a.k.a. honey) and ethanol (alcohol). Sugar is quite good, but the absorbtion rate, though high, is relatively slow.
> As far as absorption into the small intestine, NOTHING beats alcohol. It's rate and level of absorption by the small intestine is extremely high. Obviously, I don't mean kick back shots of tequila, I'm talking mere drops of the substance.
> Therefore mixing nardil with either honey or alcohol has been much more effective.

Michael:A hint of dried honey powder as well as a hint of bioperine will be in my next batch of selfmade nardil! Question: how do i get Alcohol into my "formula"?? I mean it ll get wet wont it? Alcohol powder?...
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My answer to the last question is--"drink it dummy."

 

Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working

Posted by greg rizzo on February 4, 2020, at 15:23:22

In reply to Re: My Nardil Formulation Like Old Parke Davis Working Lamdage22, posted by undopaminergic on February 4, 2020, at 10:25:40

Yeah that's strange. I just went ahead into the site anyway despite the warning, with no PC problems that I've noticed.


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