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Posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 16:49:37
MRI's are supposed to help depression. Has anyone felt better after having an MRI scan?
Linakdge
Posted by scatterbrained on October 25, 2009, at 16:55:00
In reply to MRI for depression, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 16:49:37
really? not for me
Posted by Phillipa on October 25, 2009, at 20:49:33
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by scatterbrained on October 25, 2009, at 16:55:00
No and just had MRI of pituitary gland. Anxiety worse though? Seriously Phillipa
Posted by Phidippus on October 25, 2009, at 22:37:12
In reply to MRI for depression, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 16:49:37
I had a seizure in an MRI :) I get euphoric when I seize...hahaha.
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Posted by psych chat on October 25, 2009, at 22:54:34
In reply to MRI for depression, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 16:49:37
I've had 2 MRIs...never noticed. That sounds so strange, but if I ever get another, I'll keep that in mind.
I actually fell asleep during the second one. Overworked, overstressed was all...
Posted by SLS on October 26, 2009, at 4:10:27
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by psych chat on October 25, 2009, at 23:54:34
I believe the antidepressant effect of MRI was first noted serendipitously by doctors at McLean / Harvard while they were using a portable scanner to perform brain images. Last I heard, they were studying the phenomenon. Of course, there is some precedence for the use of magnetic fields to treat affective disorders, as rTMS (repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation) has been approved by the FDA for these purposes.
- Scott
Posted by bulldog2 on October 26, 2009, at 11:34:21
In reply to MRI for depression, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 17:49:37
> MRI's are supposed to help depression. Has anyone felt better after having an MRI scan?
>
> LinakdgeYes for several hours. Not longterm. I've also found that standing under a cold shower for about 10 minutes can relieve depression for several days.
Sometimes I wonder if ads work through a shock mechanism. You know most people are initilly agitated when they take an ad. So if one ad doesn't work another is tried or added. Eventually the area of the brain that deals with depression has it's depression gene turned off. Could there be another gene that hasn't been found that become activated through ad shocking. Like the feel good gene.
Sorry for hacking into your thread. Just some thoughts that came to me.
Posted by linkadge on October 26, 2009, at 15:25:20
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by bulldog2 on October 26, 2009, at 11:34:21
Thats a good observation, I have wondered the thing myself.
I have had a few life threatening incidences in life and noticed that I feel better for a few days or weeks afterwards. Somtimes rides at an ammusement part which really scare me can make me feel a little better for a while.
Allong those lines, somtimes I felt best by going from one AD to another, sometimes changing the mechanisms was sufficiant. It is, like you say, as if putting the brain in a position where it feels legitimately threatened makes it respond in such a way that reduces depression.
Linkadge
Posted by bulldog2 on October 26, 2009, at 16:18:42
In reply to Re: MRI for depression » bulldog2, posted by linkadge on October 26, 2009, at 15:25:20
> Thats a good observation, I have wondered the thing myself.
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> I have had a few life threatening incidences in life and noticed that I feel better for a few days or weeks afterwards. Somtimes rides at an ammusement part which really scare me can make me feel a little better for a while.
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> Allong those lines, somtimes I felt best by going from one AD to another, sometimes changing the mechanisms was sufficiant. It is, like you say, as if putting the brain in a position where it feels legitimately threatened makes it respond in such a way that reduces depression.
>
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> LinkadgeI have seldom stayed on any ad more than 6-8 weeks. Bounced around from one ad to another. Often keeps me going. Might do a stimulant for a while. I'm now on neurontin + perocet. The perocet has to go as it will no longer be prescribed.
I won't do ssris any longer. Negative impact on dopamine. Next I might try parnate again + a low dose tca. However if I get a robust response I might stick with that for a while.
I guess what made me think of that was why does ect work? Trans Cranial stimulation?
When a heart stops we shock it back to life with electricty or epinephrine.
Maybe depression is a disruption of electrical currents. Just shock that part of the brain back to normal activity.
Posted by Phillipa on October 26, 2009, at 20:29:12
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by bulldog2 on October 26, 2009, at 16:18:42
Defibulators are sold for home use now. So why not buy one easy to use? Phillipa
Posted by psych chat on October 26, 2009, at 20:42:53
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by SLS on October 26, 2009, at 4:10:27
Does this concept have anything to do with all those who claim 'magnets' can be used as healing devices? Anyone know what I'm talking about?
I've always been skeptical about that - i.e. magnet bracelets. But this is interesting, I have to admit.
Posted by SLS on October 27, 2009, at 5:29:54
In reply to Re: MRI for depression » SLS, posted by psych chat on October 26, 2009, at 20:42:53
> Does this concept have anything to do with all those who claim 'magnets' can be used as healing devices?
No.
> Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Yes. I remember hearing about this sort of thing years and years ago. This use of weak magnets bears little, if no resemblance to the very strong magnetic fluxes produced in rTMS treatment and MRI scans. The skull is not easily penetrated by magnetic fields. With rTMS, the location of the placement of the magnet coils on the head is critical to producing an antidepressant response. The coils are usually placed on the left side of the forehead and pulsed at 10-20 Hz. I don't know what parameters are ideal for MRI application.
- Scott
Posted by Zyprexa on October 27, 2009, at 12:50:06
In reply to MRI for depression, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 17:49:37
No difference. I've had several.
Posted by Netch on October 29, 2009, at 6:54:56
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by SLS on October 26, 2009, at 4:10:27
MRI had no AD-effect on me.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 30, 2009, at 19:47:29
In reply to Re: MRI for depression, posted by scatterbrained on October 25, 2009, at 17:55:00
I'm always pleased when the process is over
Posted by floatingbridge on November 1, 2009, at 19:29:13
In reply to MRI for depression, posted by linkadge on October 25, 2009, at 17:49:37
> MRI's are supposed to help depression. Has anyone felt better after having an MRI scan?
>
> Linakdge
Yes, it was strange. And I thought at the time, wow, this is interesting. It was of my lower back. However, the good feeling dissipated within hours.fb
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