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Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 5, 2006, at 14:29:30
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS » NEEDHELPPLEASE, posted by TylerJ on March 5, 2006, at 13:56:04
Sorry about the caps,, that's the last thing on my mind right now. Over the years i have been on almost all the ssri's and they never have seemed to be of much help for me and anytime i go to a pdoc, i always end up being put back on one of them. if i call and say that paxil is intolerable
what would be a good suggestion for a different type of depression/anxiety med other than an ssri?
my biggest concern right now is that i cant sleep!
the more sleep i lose the worse i'm beginning to feel~ thanx for the help/support so far
Posted by SLS on March 5, 2006, at 14:48:06
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 5, 2006, at 14:29:30
> Sorry about the caps,,
NO PROB.
:-)
Believe it or not, Nardil might fit the bill if you can't tolerate any of the SRIs (including Effexor and Cymbalta).
- Scott
Posted by Racer on March 5, 2006, at 17:49:20
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 5, 2006, at 14:29:30
First off, whatever you do decide to do (and I very much agree that calling your doctor would be the best first step), don't lose hope. With a lot of the side effects that come up in the first few weeks, they fade over time. Generally, what you experience on an SSRI during the first month will be very different from what you'll experience after two or three months on a drug. Paxil is probably the best SSRI for anxiety, as far as everything I've experienced and read here of other people's experiences would show.
Also, just my own experience, Xanax for sleep left me MORE depressed over time. An actual sleeping medication, like Ambien, doesn't do that to me, for whatever that's worth. You might talk to your doctor about Trazadone, which is an antidepressant often prescribed for sleep. Might help boost whatever AD you go on, as well as helping your sleep. And sleep disturbances can play havoc with mood disorders.
Speaking of sleep, if you've recently switched shifts, that could be a big part of all this. If you can hang on for a few more weeks, some of this might improve just because you've adjusted better to the new schedule. Cross your fingers, huh?
And lastly, for other meds, there are several other classes of drugs that you might benefit from. The tricyclic antidepressants might offer something helpful, probably starting with nortriptyline or desipramine. But before those, I think I'd suggest Effexor or Cymbalta, which are dual serotonin-norepinephrine reupake inhibitors. That might help. Or Remeron, which is a newer drug and not related to the others. I don't know nearly as much as SLS does, though, so pay attention to anything he says. He's one smart fellow.
Good luck.
Posted by Last Chance on March 5, 2006, at 18:33:19
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS » NEEDHELPPLEASE, posted by Racer on March 5, 2006, at 17:49:20
The best I can offer is my own experience. I have taken Paxil, it helped quite a lot, but I can remember saying to myself that I could never go thru the initial 6 weeks again - it was absolutely terrible. I am not recommending to not take it - sounds like you are sensitive to the side effects of drugs - lower the dose at least in half or to 5mgs and go up slowly - it will take longer to get to a therapeudic dose but you won't be suffering quite such terrible side effects. My sister took Paxil, also, but she had no trouble with the first weeks - almost felt nothing. I really wish you the best with this and feel like I understand what you are going through. I still had to take an occasional Klonapin, half a .5 for anxiety. Richard
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on March 5, 2006, at 20:55:53
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS » Emily Elizabeth, posted by SLS on March 5, 2006, at 13:16:08
>> DO NOT stop paxil cold turkey or drop your dose too quickly.
>Your advice is excellent for anyone who has been taking one of these drugs for two weeks or longer. However, he has been taking Paxil for only 5 days.
Oops, I must have forgotten about the 5 days. I agree w/ you then. My own hellish withdrawal from Paxil makes me want to warn others whenever I can!
Best,
EE
Posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2006, at 21:34:46
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS » SLS, posted by Emily Elizabeth on March 5, 2006, at 20:55:53
I myself took l0mg of paxil for over two years. I took it in combination with my doc's prescription for xanax low dose and he prepared my body he said with 25mg of lopressor for around two weeks first. Where I can only tolerate low doses of it my sister take 40mg. We are all different. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by TylerJ on March 5, 2006, at 22:22:26
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by SLS on March 5, 2006, at 14:48:06
> > Sorry about the caps,,
>
> NO PROB.
>
> :-)
>
> Believe it or not, Nardil might fit the bill if you can't tolerate any of the SRIs (including Effexor and Cymbalta).
>
>
>
> - Scott
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I'm a big fan of the MAOI's-Both Nardil and Parnate. Parnate definitely causes insomnia, which you don't need. However, I'm taking Parnate and I feel great and sleeping very well, but it took a couple of weeks on Trazodone(used for sleep) to get the dose just right and now I sleep like a baby, practically unheard of for someone on Parnate. The MAOI's very often work for someone who has not responded well to ssri's or othe AD's. And when they work..man do they ever work. After 3 wks I have no depression, no social phobia, no ocd, no anxiety at all. Scott's probably right, Nardil would probably be the maoi for you, it works extremely well for some people and doesn't cause insomnia as often as parnate. Ask Scott for more info on Nardil, he knows a lot more about it then i do. I will say one more thing, you've tried most or all of the ssri's-they work, but not for everyone. I don't
think Serotonin is your prob. Try something that increases concentration of neurotransmitters- noradrenaline, dopamine, serotonin, acetylcholine, and GABA. Nardil and Parnate inhibit Mono Amine oxidase (MAO), prolonging the life of neuro-transmitters. I wish you well-Get into your doc asap please.Tyler
Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 6, 2006, at 10:44:18
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS (nm), posted by TylerJ on March 5, 2006, at 22:29:50
WELL,
THANX SO MUCH EVERYONE, I GO INTO MY FAMILY DOCTOR TOMORROW because i called and told her about not sleeping hardly at all, what would be a good suggestion{if she's open to them}to help me get some good sleep at night? also, i can't see my pdoc for another 3 weeks but i am very interested in what sls had to say about nardil.
can you give me more info. please? in the meantime i cut my paxil down to 10 mg. and nothings different but it's only been 2 days now, still only 3 hours sleep at night and that's the worst feeling i could imagine,, anxiety at night and no sleep,
thanx all you wonderful people
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on March 6, 2006, at 11:52:04
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 6, 2006, at 10:44:18
Have you ever experienced symptoms of bipolar disorder? Is it possible that paxil is inducing mania? That can be a risk when a bipolar person is misdiagnosed and takes and SSRI. The agitation and lack of sleep would fit with mania. Although of course it is hard to diagnose over the internet! This thought may be way off. You might ask the doc abt it though.
Best,
EE
Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 6, 2006, at 12:26:31
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by Emily Elizabeth on March 6, 2006, at 11:52:04
HI, I DON'T REALLY know the symptoms of bipolar
but my brother is diagnosed bipolar spectrum disorder? i never have seemed to have gotten a label other than depression/ocd/anxiety. i do seem to have very changing moods though ie,
real horny for a while, then couldn't be bothered for a while and i have this thing where when i reflect back on memories like of my son as a baby or just any good memories,, there'll be times when i just start crying at these thoughts and feel so emotional and then other times i think of these things and feel almost unmoved and lack sentimental feelings. i do explain these things to my pdoc nut they always just seem to be watching the clock and throw an ssri my way.i dont know what this means exactly but the one time i was on a theraputic dose of an ssri(prozac)
for a long time i did lots of uncharacteristic things like, i left my girlfriend of many years and had a fling(3 months with some girl i just met) got engaged then broke up and moved back home
did lots of wild ,reckless types of things which isn't normally in my character.
so i dunno if this all means anything but thems the facts,
thanx for any advice/help
Posted by Phillipa on March 6, 2006, at 18:07:18
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 6, 2006, at 12:26:31
That sounds very bipolar and with a history make sure you tell your doc. Good Luck. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 8, 2006, at 9:14:41
In reply to Re: PAXIL SIDE EFFECTS, posted by SLS on March 5, 2006, at 14:48:06
I HAVE RECENTLY posted about the terrible side effects that 20 mg. of paxil seemed to have stirred up in me in only a few days, i stopped the 20mg. after 5 days and went down to 10 mg.
the over anxious feeling and restlessness tension has subsided but i still have not slept more than
3 hours for almost ten days now. the strange thing is i'm really not even that tired and worn out(and i have a pyysical job) so yesterday i went to my family dr. and told her the deal and she added ambiencr to my already 1mg. of xanax at bedtime and i was so expecting to finally sleep a whole night last night and i STILL woke up after 3 hours and was wide awake and anxious and couldnt fall back to sleep. even with ambien/xanax
i am now so frustrated so i called my pdoc to tell him something had to be done and of course he's on vacation till the 20th but his receptionist heard my complaints/symptoms and immediately told me to STOP TAKING ALL SSRI'S and
call back in a week. so now i am confused where i stand. does this make sense to anyone what is going on??
sorry so long but i'm really struggling here!
Posted by TylerJ on March 8, 2006, at 10:06:41
In reply to REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 8, 2006, at 9:14:41
> I HAVE RECENTLY posted about the terrible side effects that 20 mg. of paxil seemed to have stirred up in me in only a few days, i stopped the 20mg. after 5 days and went down to 10 mg.
> the over anxious feeling and restlessness tension has subsided but i still have not slept more than
> 3 hours for almost ten days now. the strange thing is i'm really not even that tired and worn out(and i have a pyysical job) so yesterday i went to my family dr. and told her the deal and she added ambiencr to my already 1mg. of xanax at bedtime and i was so expecting to finally sleep a whole night last night and i STILL woke up after 3 hours and was wide awake and anxious and couldnt fall back to sleep. even with ambien/xanax
> i am now so frustrated so i called my pdoc to tell him something had to be done and of course he's on vacation till the 20th but his receptionist heard my complaints/symptoms and immediately told me to STOP TAKING ALL SSRI'S and
> call back in a week. so now i am confused where i stand. does this make sense to anyone what is going on??
> sorry so long but i'm really struggling here!
Did you have trouble with insomnia before you started Parnate? I know a lot of people will tell you not too, however, I agree w/ the receptionist, go off the Paxil-it just might be causing more harm than good. I would cut your med in half and taper off the next 2-3 days. Paxil has sedating properties, and for you it seemed to do just the opposite. The receptionist probably has orders from the doc concerning bad reactions to meds while he is gone. I would do what she said, but taper slowly, because Paxil does have the highest incidence of discontinuation symdrome of all the ssri's because of it's short 1/2 life and anti-cholinergic activity. If you taper down slowly you should be just fine because you were on a small dose for a short time. In the meantime I would use a little more Xanax ( if possible, and if it helps ) to help until you get into see your doc and take ambien cr for sleep. Best wishes.Tyler
Posted by River1924 on March 8, 2006, at 19:34:12
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~ » NEEDHELPPLEASE, posted by TylerJ on March 8, 2006, at 10:06:41
Hey,
I wrote a really long response but it got eaten by my computer. I'll try to get back later but I need to get off the phone line. I'm waiting for a call from my doctor.
Two links to check out for bipolar, bipolar 2 and med induced mania. (Mania doesn't feel good a lot of the time... for a long time, I didn't know that.) See if any of the info fits. I know you can hardly think straight but if any of it fits, you'll know.
http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html
Good luck and be careful. If you need immediate attention, don't wait: Go to the ER.
River.
Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 8, 2006, at 21:55:14
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by River1924 on March 8, 2006, at 19:34:12
TYLER,
i couldn't find anything on med induced mania~ what is your take on it,,,thanx for the links,,
i'm scared thinking i might have bipolar,,
i definitely am an anxiety machine right now and
i have lots of the history,, bankruptcy, quitting jobs abruptly(walking out) then regretting it
getting way too serious w/ girls i just met etc. etc. thanx so much for any help,
Posted by TylerJ on March 8, 2006, at 23:24:45
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 8, 2006, at 21:55:14
> TYLER,
> i couldn't find anything on med induced mania~ what is your take on it,,,thanx for the links,,
> i'm scared thinking i might have bipolar,,
> i definitely am an anxiety machine right now and
> i have lots of the history,, bankruptcy, quitting jobs abruptly(walking out) then regretting it
> getting way too serious w/ girls i just met etc. etc. thanx so much for any help,
>I'm sorry your not doing well. :( Bipolar is highly treatable, so please don't be afraid...I know, easier said than done. Actually, that was River's post to you about med induced mania. However, I'll do some research tonight and tomorrow and let you know what I find out. Do you have both Zanax and Klonopin? Take more if you can to help with your anxiety. Did you go off the paxil or are you tapering off? If so, drink a lot of water to help cleanse your systom of the drug. If possible, try to get some execise in every day..proven to reduce anxiety. Man, I feel so sorry for you, I wish I could do more to help you. Just keep in mind, I've been in your shoes many times, miserable and just wanting to die,so anxious I couldn't sleep and I felt I couldn't take any more. But now I'm on the right med for me (Parnate) and life is good-no anxiety, no depression. Hang in there you WILL get better, contact me if you need anything.
Tyler
Posted by River1924 on March 9, 2006, at 0:37:23
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 8, 2006, at 21:55:14
" Bipolar patients have a strong tendency to fly into mania or extreme agitation on an antidepressant... major depressive episodes with agitation... treated in the same way ...and the result is disastrous.... psychotic depressions, excited and anxious depressions, and dysphoric moods, many induced by antidepressants, not to mention many who rapid-cycle after being prescribed an antidepressant..."
You will worry about your diagnosis but try not to... Paxil mixed with whatever ever else you are on... has, to sound like 70's disco diva, put you on a bad trip. First things first... get off the Paxil train... take it one day at a time. Peace.
Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 11:33:30
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~ » NEEDHELPPLEASE, posted by TylerJ on March 8, 2006, at 23:24:45
> > TYLER,
> > i couldn't find anything on med induced mania~ what is your take on it,,,thanx for the links,,
> > i'm scared thinking i might have bipolar,,
> > i definitely am an anxiety machine right now and
> > i have lots of the history,, bankruptcy, quitting jobs abruptly(walking out) then regretting it
> > getting way too serious w/ girls i just met etc. etc. thanx so much for any help,
> >
>
> I'm sorry your not doing well. :( Bipolar is highly treatable, so please don't be afraid...I know, easier said than done. Actually, that was River's post to you about med induced mania. However, I'll do some research tonight and tomorrow and let you know what I find out. Do you have both Zanax and Klonopin? Take more if you can to help with your anxiety. Did you go off the paxil or are you tapering off? If so, drink a lot of water to help cleanse your systom of the drug. If possible, try to get some execise in every day..proven to reduce anxiety. Man, I feel so sorry for you, I wish I could do more to help you. Just keep in mind, I've been in your shoes many times, miserable and just wanting to die,so anxious I couldn't sleep and I felt I couldn't take any more. But now I'm on the right med for me (Parnate) and life is good-no anxiety, no depression. Hang in there you WILL get better, contact me if you need anything.
>
> Tyler
Okay, this is what I learned. This pertains to Paxil Mania. First Paxil side effects, most common are nervousness, insomnia, shakiness, upset stomach, and delayed orgasm. Paxil can cause Hypomania-the patient may experience
a very relaxed mood, boundless energy, little need for sleep and rapid thoughts... (this doesn't sound like what you are going through). The Hypomanic patient can be irritable and they can get themselves into trouble because of relentless optimism that leads to poor judgment and reckless behavior. Hypomania is treated by immediatly stopping or lowering the dose. Paxil has a relatively short half-life, this means the body eliminates it pretty fast.
I personally don't think you are experiencing Mania. I think Paxil is causing a lot of side-effects for you such as anxiety, and insomnia...I would stop or taper off the paxil. Take more Benzodiazapines to help you until you get into your pdoc. Also, try over the counter Benadryl for insomnia take 50 mgs 45 mins before going to bed. If it puts you asleep and you wake up 4 hours later and can't get back to sleep take another 50 mgs of it. I take it, and for me it works great. Let me know what you think...I wish and hope that you begin to feel better very soon.Tyler
Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 9, 2006, at 21:45:25
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 11:33:30
TYLER,
thanx so much for your concern and help/i do kind of doubt i'm experiencing mania, i'm not reckless/out of control i AM so damn anxious,nervous, focused on evrey negative aspect of my life and unable to even begin to feel any of the good right now. without a xanax every so often i couldn't cope right now,, i've had bouts of depression/anxiety since adolescence but only when big changes occur in my life do they get really bad like now. i feel like i'm stuck in panic/anxiety mode and can't get out. at some times i do romance the fact that suicide is always a way out, and i'm ashamed at those thoughts, but after i take a xanax that whole idea goes away and my normal feelings/self prevail
but only till the next round of anxiety.
what do you think would be a better med for me than an ssri,{which doesn't seem to do it for me??
you are one hell of a great person to take the time to help someone in there times of distress
most people couldnt be bothered,
god bless
Posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 8:31:21
In reply to tyler, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 9, 2006, at 21:45:25
> TYLER,
> thanx so much for your concern and help/i do kind of doubt i'm experiencing mania, i'm not reckless/out of control i AM so damn anxious,nervous, focused on evrey negative aspect of my life and unable to even begin to feel any of the good right now. without a xanax every so often i couldn't cope right now,, i've had bouts of depression/anxiety since adolescence but only when big changes occur in my life do they get really bad like now. i feel like i'm stuck in panic/anxiety mode and can't get out. at some times i do romance the fact that suicide is always a way out, and i'm ashamed at those thoughts, but after i take a xanax that whole idea goes away and my normal feelings/self prevail
> but only till the next round of anxiety.
> what do you think would be a better med for me than an ssri,{which doesn't seem to do it for me??
> you are one hell of a great person to take the time to help someone in there times of distress
> most people couldnt be bothered,
> god blessI know how you feel about being stuck in the anxiety mode and can't get out, I've been there many times and it's awful. I'm sorry, I forget, have you tried any snri's like Remeron or effexor? How about Cymabalta? Pdocs often combine these meds w/other meds ( augmentation) to help them work better. Augmentation can be used with nearly every AD. i.e., Combining Prozac with a TCA has become quite popular and effective for some. Other docs ad in Lithium, Thyroid, mood stabilizers, anti-convulsents and more to help AD's work better and longer. My favorite class of AD's are the MAOI's, because they work more often then not, and when they work WOW do they work! I'm on Parnate right now, after one wk I felt much better. Now after 3 wks I have no depression and no anxiety, it's almost unbelievable. Have you ever tried an MAOI? The diet restrictions "these days" aren't bad at all. And, maoi's tend to work for a lot of people who don't respond well to ssri's and other AD's. Don't be afraid to take more Xanax now until you get into your pdoc, you need some help with anxiety NOW and if Xanax helps, use it. Let me know how your doing. I'm so sorry you're suffering so terribly.
Tyler
Posted by bassman on March 10, 2006, at 16:14:19
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 8, 2006, at 21:55:14
> TYLER,
> i couldn't find anything on med induced mania~ what is your take on it,,,thanx for the links,,
> i'm scared thinking i might have bipolar,,
> i definitely am an anxiety machine right now and
> i have lots of the history,, bankruptcy, quitting jobs abruptly(walking out) then regretting it
> getting way too serious w/ girls i just met etc. etc. thanx so much for any help,
>If it is of any help, Paxil was the best antidepressant I've ever taken and I had No problem withdrawing from it (I just stopped twice, which I don't recommend, but it worked for me). Here's the interesting part: it took me an entire year to get to 20 mg!! I cut about a tenth of a 10 mg tablet and took it for a week, then about a fifth of a tablet for a couple weeks and after a month or so, I got to 5 mg, and bang!!! I felt better than I ever have-anxiety was done, depression was gone-and I was in very bad shape (24 hour a day nightmare of anxiety and depression) prior to the Paxil. It was, as they say, a miracle-that's what it felt like. So the high stimulation with Paxil happens to other people, too!
Posted by tizza on March 10, 2006, at 18:29:22
In reply to Re: REALLY CONFUSED NOW~, posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 11:33:30
Paxil is one SSRI that quite a few people react badly to. It didn't agree with me at all, it made me terribly anxious and extremly angry and aggressive which is completely against my nature so if you have been taking it less than 2 weeks I'd stop it and use your xanax to keep you calm until you can see your pdoc. BUT be very careful about stopping it if you have been taking it for longer, it might really mess you up.
Posted by TylerJ on March 11, 2006, at 21:21:52
In reply to tyler, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 9, 2006, at 21:45:25
> TYLER,
> thanx so much for your concern and help/i do kind of doubt i'm experiencing mania, i'm not reckless/out of control i AM so damn anxious,nervous, focused on evrey negative aspect of my life and unable to even begin to feel any of the good right now. without a xanax every so often i couldn't cope right now,, i've had bouts of depression/anxiety since adolescence but only when big changes occur in my life do they get really bad like now. i feel like i'm stuck in panic/anxiety mode and can't get out. at some times i do romance the fact that suicide is always a way out, and i'm ashamed at those thoughts, but after i take a xanax that whole idea goes away and my normal feelings/self prevail
> but only till the next round of anxiety.
> what do you think would be a better med for me than an ssri,{which doesn't seem to do it for me??
> you are one hell of a great person to take the time to help someone in there times of distress
> most people couldnt be bothered,
> god bless
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Hey just wondering how you're doing? Are you off or going off Paxil? Is that helpful yet? Have you tried benadryl for sleep? And most importantly, when do you see your Pdoc? You hang in there, OKAY!!? If I can do it, believe me you can too! You're going to get some GOOD relief real soon, just focus on that...and fight like a dog until you do get good help, whatever it Takes. I'm here for you so don't be afraid to ask me anything. God bless.Tyler
Posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 12, 2006, at 17:02:02
In reply to Re: tyler » NEEDHELPPLEASE, posted by TylerJ on March 11, 2006, at 21:21:52
hi tyler,
i am just waiting out this week till i see my pdoc again, when i told his receptionist the way
the zoloft and paxil was giving me insomnia and making me restless/tense and dissassociated she told me to stop the paxil 20mg. right away. it's been 4 days now and i have no withdrawl at all
surprisingly but i still have major anxiety and i know i'm smack dab in the middle of a major depression as we speak. xanax is my lifeasver right now, i always feel inseide like if i could find a pill that gave me the feeling of 1 mg. of xanax allday long i'd be just fine. i don't know why my body is such an anxiety producing machine.
my brother is on lexapro and says it helps him tremendously, but also said he had no se's from it at all.in the past i was on lex for a brief time and it also made me very restless/tense and gave me insomnia. so i don't think our body chemistry is alike?? even though we are bro's.
i really don't know which direction i would like the doc to go into at this point as far as a med.
i'm really unsure of which type of med will be the one to help me?? what is the feeling that you get? what can calm the anxiety/depression giant down and not drive me crazy with side effects?
thanx for your concern,,
oh and by the way i have been sleeping some by adding benadryl to my nightly xanax. it makes me very groggy in the morning but i could care less since it gives me some sleep. it's the cold/allergy type though? what did you mean by 50 mg. of benadryl?take care and thanx,
peace
Posted by TylerJ on March 12, 2006, at 20:23:38
In reply to Re: tyler, posted by NEEDHELPPLEASE on March 12, 2006, at 17:02:02
> hi tyler,
> i am just waiting out this week till i see my pdoc again, when i told his receptionist the way
> the zoloft and paxil was giving me insomnia and making me restless/tense and dissassociated she told me to stop the paxil 20mg. right away. it's been 4 days now and i have no withdrawl at all
> surprisingly but i still have major anxiety and i know i'm smack dab in the middle of a major depression as we speak. xanax is my lifeasver right now, i always feel inseide like if i could find a pill that gave me the feeling of 1 mg. of xanax allday long i'd be just fine. i don't know why my body is such an anxiety producing machine.
> my brother is on lexapro and says it helps him tremendously, but also said he had no se's from it at all.in the past i was on lex for a brief time and it also made me very restless/tense and gave me insomnia. so i don't think our body chemistry is alike?? even though we are bro's.
> i really don't know which direction i would like the doc to go into at this point as far as a med.
> i'm really unsure of which type of med will be the one to help me?? what is the feeling that you get? what can calm the anxiety/depression giant down and not drive me crazy with side effects?
> thanx for your concern,,
> oh and by the way i have been sleeping some by adding benadryl to my nightly xanax. it makes me very groggy in the morning but i could care less since it gives me some sleep. it's the cold/allergy type though? what did you mean by 50 mg. of benadryl?
>
> take care and thanx,
> peaceHey, I'm glad you're hanging in there. I know what you mean about the Xanax being your lifesaver-I've been there too many times also in my life. First off, I want to say that your diagnosis is the same as mine, Depression, Anxiety and OCD. So what I'd like to do is make some SUGGESTIONS that you can write down and talk to your doc about. And by the way, use more xanax now if you need it..if it's helping use it. I've been on every ssri made and none really worked that great for me. One snri worked well for me for about 6 years and that was Remeron-and boy does it help you sleep also. Please remember that all psych meds have side-effects, some you just have to live with, and some are intolerable. I gained some weight on Remeron, but hey at least I felt good and after I stopped taking it I lost all the weight. Have you taken any TCA's, there older and dirty but they do work...I think they are superior to ssri's for sure. I took Imipramine for 5 years and it worked very well for me. No weight gain, the only side effect was dry mouth. Now my favorites: I sincerely believe MAOI's are the absolute best antidepressants available. Side effects? Yeah, there are some but not too bad for most people. And the diet is very easy to follow...the only thing I miss is Cheddar cheese. For me, Parnate has relieved my depression 100%, OCD 100%, and anxiety 100%...I love it! It's kind of activating and can cause insomnia, so for you I think Nardil or EMSAM "THE PATCH" would be better choices. Nardil is more sedating and less likely to cause insomnia. See what your doc thinks.
As far as the Benadryl I take just the anti-histamine, but the decongestant/ anti-histamine you have is just as effective. Look at the box, each capsule is 25mgs. I take 2 caps every night. I would also combine your Xanax with this at bedtime. I'm sorry that you are suffering...please take a little more xanax to help you until you see your pdoc. I'll keep you in my prayers, please let me know how your doing and don't be afraid to ask questions. I try to keep things simple without all the technical jargon that just confuses most people. :)
Tyler
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