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Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 14:37:28
Hello GUYS i need your help again plse...
Any0ne else ever started with half of 37.5 mg just onece a day to see how things goes?
I took it this morning and i had amajor panick attack to it because i am very nervous about medications..
But with me being so anxious and depressed i had to start it cus no other med has ever agreed with me. and i am so depressed...now i am anxious.. VERY anxious..So had anyone else ever started out on half of a 37.5 mg ? my doc reckons it wont do nothing for me but i feeling it just after the first day i had major panick attack after taking it tryed making myself sick .. lol ive had a dodgy stomach and cant concentrate proply and feel kind of up and down ...I AM SO ANXIOUS but kind of feel slowish..
I had this med 5 yrs ago for postnatel depression and it caused me severe anxiety at higher dose of 400mg so i stopped it went through brain zaps etc....
i suppose thats why i am so nervous about taking it now, but i am so depressed... ALSO my leg has been all twitchy and i DO feel like i am spacey i suppose the same symptoms as i had before trying it ..... apart from the twitchyness i am kind of wondering shall i continue? i have alot of *wat ifs*...
ANy imput?
thanks
Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 15:45:52
In reply to This is bothering me..GUYS ?, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 14:37:28
> Hello GUYS i need your help again plse...
>
> Any0ne else ever started with half of 37.5 mg just onece a day to see how things goes?
> I took it this morning and i had amajor panick attack to it because i am very nervous about medications..
> But with me being so anxious and depressed i had to start it cus no other med has ever agreed with me. and i am so depressed...now i am anxious.. VERY anxious..
>
> So had anyone else ever started out on half of a 37.5 mg ? my doc reckons it wont do nothing for me but i feeling it just after the first day i had major panick attack after taking it tryed making myself sick .. lol ive had a dodgy stomach and cant concentrate proply and feel kind of up and down ...I AM SO ANXIOUS but kind of feel slowish..
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> I had this med 5 yrs ago for postnatel depression and it caused me severe anxiety at higher dose of 400mg so i stopped it went through brain zaps etc....
>
> i suppose thats why i am so nervous about taking it now, but i am so depressed... ALSO my leg has been all twitchy and i DO feel like i am spacey i suppose the same symptoms as i had before trying it ..... apart from the twitchyness i am kind of wondering shall i continue? i have alot of *wat ifs*...
>
>
> ANy imput?
>
>
> thanks
>
I am so anxious it aint even funny, my brain feels funny ANXIETY I KNOW, i cant concentrate on watching tele .. i am so anxious.. i cant even be doing with ebay anymore. . ok shall i not bother taking second dose of effexor tommorrow? (1st day on 18mg today) I need help plse i am so anxious and depressed....
Posted by linkadge on November 19, 2004, at 16:30:42
In reply to Re: IM WAY TO ANXIOUS, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 15:45:52
Maybe you should go to the hospital. I my first hospital visit was not that bad. They got me straightened out. They can be right there when you are having high blood pressure/ panic attack, and will give you benzos at night etc.
Linkadge
Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 17:02:11
In reply to Re: IM WAY TO ANXIOUS, posted by linkadge on November 19, 2004, at 16:30:42
i cant go into hospital i have my daughter....
OK i made my mind up i cant keep taking this med i am freaking out badly here.. wat the hell is going on? Why am i relaly depressed and not doing nothing about it? I have tryed so hard i know i only took 1 half of 37.5mg of effexor BUT ya know wats goign through my mind? seritonin syndrome,? brain disease? loosing mind? Seizure? I am climbing the walls, i cant speak to no body, i feel sick grrrrrrrrrrr I thin ki will go take some valium and go to bed and hopefully feel better tommorrow.. Shall i or shant i take the other half tommorrow or just foget it?
Posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 17:45:57
In reply to Re: IM WAY TO ANXIOUS, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 17:02:11
Do you see anyone other than your doc, like a therapist, support group, etc? I'm not a big fan, but having someone who can be objective with you over what you are experiencing can be helpful.
I think getting acute care might be a good idea, too, as Linkage suggested. Could you make arrangements for your daughter (your Mom)?
I personally think you need WAY, WAY better anxiety control during the startup time you have with meds. That isn't unusual and I'm suprised, given your history, that more attention is not given to that by your doc. Your meds can't be effective if you're not taking them and your anxiety is preventing your taking them - I'm thinking success is only going to be possible if your anxiety is better controlled.
Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 18:03:33
In reply to Re: IM WAY TO ANXIOUS, posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 17:45:57
i cant go into hospital i just cant, i have my daughter and no my mum couldnt have her and i dont like being i na strange place it will just make me more paranoid and stuff ..
OK back to square one just valium then? wat about effexor?
I see an ocupational therapist and a counciller from a group called mind...
Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 18:16:04
In reply to Re: IM WAY TO ANXIOUS, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 18:03:33
You are all probably geetting as peed of with me as my doc sounds... i get *''We give you meds but you dont take them what else do you want us to do?''* sort of thing .. well yes he is right but most meds makes me feel so strange i just dont wanna go through that, and yes my anxiety is so bad it aint even funny..
Anways ok now guys i need your help sorry to be a pain your all i got for support, my mum is like o dont take no mor just snap out of it ..
OK i only took 18mg effexor this morning, shall i take 5 mg valium bnow before i go to bed (long life) then a furth 5 mg with my morning coffee then take the other half of effexr about an hr after my dose of valium in the morning? OR shall i not bother taking effexor ?
I obviousley need it, cus i am a nervous wreck, i havent looked after myself for like over a week, i havent made my bed washing hoovered NOTHING..
Is severe anxiety about wat ifs normal? wat would you do in my situation.. rememebr hospilization is out of the question..
thankyou..
Posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 18:40:48
In reply to Re: OK WHAT SHALL I DO ??????? I REALLY NEED U, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 18:16:04
> Anways ok now guys i need your help sorry to be a pain your all i got for support, my mum is like o dont take no mor just snap out of it ..
~~~Most of us understand very well, if you could snap out of it, you certainly would. You have a health matter that's not controlable without help.
> I obviousley need it, cus i am a nervous wreck, i havent looked after myself for like over a week, i havent made my bed washing hoovered NOTHING..~~~I have been in shutdown mode before and it is awful place to be. Your current state would indicate you really do need to try and allow a medication to help you.
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> Is severe anxiety about wat ifs normal? wat would you do in my situation.. rememebr hospilization is out of the question..
~~~Anxiety is a normal part of starting anything new, but what I term TOXIC anxiety is not. Toxic anxiety freezes you --- it clouds how you are able to see things, it effects how you preceive your experiences --- in essence, it makes you freak out and not be able to function. For me, meds were the only thing that got me out of that cycle to be able to function.I understand hospitalization is not an option and I'm sorry about that as that may be of benefit.
I really can't advise you on what to do with taking Effexor. How did your doc advise you to use your Valium? I would use it as they advised.
I'm sorry for your rough time.
Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 18:54:46
In reply to Re: OK WHAT SHALL I DO ??????? I REALLY NEED U, posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 18:40:48
i no i no .. i am so silly ..i need this medication to work...
OK i will take 5 mg valium tonight then another 5 mg first thing tommoz then an hr later i will take the other half of effexor.. if i got valium in my body then taking the effexor wont make me freak out again right? -
it was so weird was with in minutes of me taking that dose wham i was hit with full blown panick.. i am still panicking now 14 hrs later..
What am i panicking about? -- loosing my mind, effexor taking over my mind, making me do things i wouldnt.. the wall climbing anxiety, and maybe even suicidal thoughts ? thats wat worrys me..
but the positives which i am tryign to think about are that it really helps more ppl than none with the black hole depression and anxiety social phobia etc ...
will this be the right thing? --will the valium before hand make me not anxious panicky when i have taken the effexor? i am worried that the valium may make me depressed ?
thanks
Posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 19:10:15
In reply to Re: OK WHAT SHALL I DO ??????? I REALLY NEED U, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 18:54:46
I do think the Valium will help you. I know my Klonopin has been a lifesaver for me. The time that I have started AD's, benzo have really helped to keep things in the right light.
I hope your meds help you feel better. You deserve it and so does your daughter.
Posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 19:34:39
In reply to Re: OK WHAT SHALL I DO ??????? I REALLY NEED U » crazychickuk, posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 19:10:15
god i am so silly..
Posted by Glydin on November 19, 2004, at 19:39:36
In reply to Re: its not like its gonna kill m is it?, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 19:34:39
> god i am so silly..
~~~It's how us anxious folks are, but there is help and I hope you're on your way. Keep your chin up.
Posted by slinky on November 20, 2004, at 4:18:10
In reply to Re: IM WAY TO ANXIOUS, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 17:02:11
This happens to me the first 2 weeks of starting an SSri..I get major anxiety or anger..it does smooth out...gets worse before getting better...you take the valium
Posted by Ritch on November 20, 2004, at 10:22:40
In reply to This is bothering me..GUYS ?, posted by crazychickuk on November 19, 2004, at 14:37:28
Hi, you are probably just very med sensitive to serontonin reuptake inhibitors. You could tolerate Remeron at a standard dose (and I took Remeron at 15mg or 30mg for months in the past or doxepin at 75mg/day). But, there is NO way I can tolerate a standard dose of SSRi or Effexor/Cymbalta. It's just the mechanism and my peculiar biology. But, they do help a lot with anxiety, so I take tiny doses. When I use EffexorXR for anxiety I just dump all the pellets out on a saucer and pick out a dozen and wash them down with a glass of water. That's about all I can stand because it makes me too nauseated, etc. Maybe you should quarter your 37.5mg tabs and take just a quarter once a day for a week or two to see if it helps?
Posted by Tom G on November 20, 2004, at 15:05:42
In reply to Re: This is bothering me..GUYS ? » crazychickuk, posted by Ritch on November 20, 2004, at 10:22:40
I'm really starting to wonder Donna. You told me last week that your doctor advised you against taking Effexor and now you're taking it. Whats going on? The most important thing now is to stick with taking the Effexor on a strict schedule. Do not give up on it until you have given it an adequate trial. I've seen a consistent pattern of obssession in the tone of your posts over the last few months. Like I said before I think an antipsychotic could work wonders for your anxiety quicker and better than Effexor and maybe to a lesser extent on your obsessing over this medication business. I think anxiety breeds obssesion. If you're able I would find a doctor who would give you an antipsychotic for off label use. However, this all depends if the Effexor turns out not to work. You have to give these medicines time to work.
Posted by jasmineneroli on November 20, 2004, at 16:43:48
In reply to Re: This is bothering me..GUYS ?, posted by Tom G on November 20, 2004, at 15:05:42
Tom G. You are absolutely right! I think chaosworld is where crazychickuk is used to residing. Anything else is hard for her to tolerate. I wish peace and stability for her :).
[[Donna]], hope you can listen to what Tom is advising, cuz I think it will really help. Take care of yourself.
Jas
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