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Posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 20:58:43
I suddenly feel all alone and really need some kind of support. I am going to use this forum for any support anyone can give me in my immediate crisis.
I quit the recovery meetings and such a while back since my sobriety plan is tghe marijuana maintinence plan. Pot has alwyas been justified in my life if I stayed away from all the horrible addictions.
I posted a super long thread on substance use last night while I was being stupid enough to make my situation worse. I would like to start over here with a more sane approach to my insanity.
I have long a history of drug abuse to various things with Benzoids being the most severe problem when it comes to withdrawal. I had recently been doing ok by going back to my simple hum drum life of Paxil and pot. But then had an opportunity to get adderall agian. I had been down a real bad road with it in the past but that was because I was popping benzoids with it and snorthing the sh*t (thats how a super dirt bag introduced me to it). So I decided I would try the ADderall but do it as it would be prescribed since I have had severe undiagnosed ADHD in my life. The Adderall worked great and brought new life to my life. I did it for the first week or 2 of each month for 3 months (could only get limited supply) and as long as I didn't pop benzoids or snort the crap it did amazing things for me in many ways. yes, illegally - my PA at the local shrink center does not believe in such easy solutions and would for sure not prescribe it with my history which I am honest about. I wanted to see if I could benefit from it without problems. Then one night on this third partial month of doing the Adderall I got really stupid when a guy I invited over for sex had some coke (I havn't touched that for years and normally never would after my past from earier life). I don't know why I was so stupid but I guess this means I failed my own little test for myself. Then to calm me down I took one tiny little klonopin which of course worked great but somehow that one tiny pill put me into a huge tailspin after it wore off and I went through benzoid withdrawal from one stupid little mg pill !! That doesn't seem possible but with my past - I know the brain remembers it - and somehow the Adderall must have magified it.
So this one klonopin ended up being like an atom bomb in my web of self medicating. It ruined everything and put me into a tailspin. Suddenly the Adderall would not do hardly any of the good things it had been doing - it basically didn't work anymore. Instead of enhancing all the good things, it just enhanced the klonopin rebound/withdrawal. Well, I still took the Adderall since I didn't have much left, hoping it owuld eventually help but that is a stupid thought. I am now a total mess. I ended up in such severe depresion the last couple nights that I actually resorted to snorting some of my last Adderall and have been suddenly drinking huge amounts of Vodka - etc etc.
Can anyone offer any advice to help me out of this immediate crisis? I am now in really bad shape. Depressed beyond belief, psychotic, scared, extreme anxiety - the whole works. I am in a small bubble of barely being able to function right now as I took my last 60mg of Aderall today (orally) and am drinking vodka agian. The Vodka was originally just a little temporary thing like it has been before, to help ramp me out of this.
I don't understand how that one klonopin could put me into such withdrawal except that it must have been compliczated by the Adderall. In the past I could take one xanax on isolated ocasions as long as I didn't contue it - even with my history. Thats why I thought I could get away with one klonopin that night. What a mistake!!!! I had these sitting around for quite a while to get them out of the hands of a kid who was getting messed up on them and just kept them around for emergency or whatever and never took one of them till that night. If I hadn't done that, this whole situation might have turned into such an extreme nightmare.
Yes, I need to consider the dangers of Adderall in itself and would be glad to get feedback about that. I would also appreciate any knowledge on the klonopin interaction/atom bomb reaction since doctors really don't seem to be able to say much. I went to the ER the other morning before I made my own situation worse. I also went back to my local shrink center and told my PA what was going on.
Nobody can provide any real answers or cures obviously. Then, the one other little complication is the fact that I would quit the Paxil I was on when I started ADderall. After all, when I did Adderall, I didn't need it or myy normal weed. I also wanted to avoid a very bad interaction with Paxil and alcohol since I can actually enjoy small amounts of alcohol while on Adderall (normally would not try since I am an alcoholic - somehow Adderall makes it ok).
Anyone can say go to the hospital or whatever but I have been down that road before. There is really nothing they can do except provide an environment that makes the situation worse with no smoking cigerettes, and extra anxiety in general. Plus, I need to somehow be able to try to function for at least limited periods of time to finish out some obligations in my lawn and landscaping business I have been building from nothing this summer (got the account of 90 condos and 10 other small yards). ALSO, I start some classes on Monday!!! I wonder how I will fuction for them but I have to! I already have to drop the internet ones I never started that started in August. These other classes were ideal because theydidn't start until after summer was really pretty much over (the work).
Well, I might very soon be in such bad shape that I can't do anything for a while, but I will try to at least come to this forum in hopes of any helpful words anyone can give me.
I duddenly feel very desperate and hopeless and wish I could understand the klonopin atom bomb. It would be so easy to take another one and use it to ramp off this whole mess but I have not let myself do that since it caused this whole nightmare. I shoudl probably get rid of it after this nightmare.
I will try to use this thread as support to get me out of this immediate crisis. Can anyone help?
Posted by azalea on October 11, 2008, at 23:01:00
In reply to NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 20:58:43
I don't have answers to all of your questions, but I can explain that there is an addiction area in the brain that is activated by any substance you've been addicted to in the past. This perhaps explains the tailspin you experienced.
It sounds like you benefit greatly from ADHD treatment. There are options to treat ADHD with non-stimulant medication. In the future, perhaps Straterra (atomoxetine) would be a good med for you. Straterra is not a controlled substance and is not addictive. This could potentially work quite well in combination with an SSRI like Paxil.
> I suddenly feel all alone and really need some kind of support. I am going to use this forum for any support anyone can give me in my immediate crisis.
>
> I quit the recovery meetings and such a while back since my sobriety plan is tghe marijuana maintinence plan. Pot has alwyas been justified in my life if I stayed away from all the horrible addictions.
>
> I posted a super long thread on substance use last night while I was being stupid enough to make my situation worse. I would like to start over here with a more sane approach to my insanity.
>
> I have long a history of drug abuse to various things with Benzoids being the most severe problem when it comes to withdrawal. I had recently been doing ok by going back to my simple hum drum life of Paxil and pot. But then had an opportunity to get adderall agian. I had been down a real bad road with it in the past but that was because I was popping benzoids with it and snorthing the sh*t (thats how a super dirt bag introduced me to it). So I decided I would try the ADderall but do it as it would be prescribed since I have had severe undiagnosed ADHD in my life. The Adderall worked great and brought new life to my life. I did it for the first week or 2 of each month for 3 months (could only get limited supply) and as long as I didn't pop benzoids or snort the crap it did amazing things for me in many ways. yes, illegally - my PA at the local shrink center does not believe in such easy solutions and would for sure not prescribe it with my history which I am honest about. I wanted to see if I could benefit from it without problems. Then one night on this third partial month of doing the Adderall I got really stupid when a guy I invited over for sex had some coke (I havn't touched that for years and normally never would after my past from earier life). I don't know why I was so stupid but I guess this means I failed my own little test for myself. Then to calm me down I took one tiny little klonopin which of course worked great but somehow that one tiny pill put me into a huge tailspin after it wore off and I went through benzoid withdrawal from one stupid little mg pill !! That doesn't seem possible but with my past - I know the brain remembers it - and somehow the Adderall must have magified it.
>
> So this one klonopin ended up being like an atom bomb in my web of self medicating. It ruined everything and put me into a tailspin. Suddenly the Adderall would not do hardly any of the good things it had been doing - it basically didn't work anymore. Instead of enhancing all the good things, it just enhanced the klonopin rebound/withdrawal. Well, I still took the Adderall since I didn't have much left, hoping it owuld eventually help but that is a stupid thought. I am now a total mess. I ended up in such severe depresion the last couple nights that I actually resorted to snorting some of my last Adderall and have been suddenly drinking huge amounts of Vodka - etc etc.
>
> Can anyone offer any advice to help me out of this immediate crisis? I am now in really bad shape. Depressed beyond belief, psychotic, scared, extreme anxiety - the whole works. I am in a small bubble of barely being able to function right now as I took my last 60mg of Aderall today (orally) and am drinking vodka agian. The Vodka was originally just a little temporary thing like it has been before, to help ramp me out of this.
>
> I don't understand how that one klonopin could put me into such withdrawal except that it must have been compliczated by the Adderall. In the past I could take one xanax on isolated ocasions as long as I didn't contue it - even with my history. Thats why I thought I could get away with one klonopin that night. What a mistake!!!! I had these sitting around for quite a while to get them out of the hands of a kid who was getting messed up on them and just kept them around for emergency or whatever and never took one of them till that night. If I hadn't done that, this whole situation might have turned into such an extreme nightmare.
>
> Yes, I need to consider the dangers of Adderall in itself and would be glad to get feedback about that. I would also appreciate any knowledge on the klonopin interaction/atom bomb reaction since doctors really don't seem to be able to say much. I went to the ER the other morning before I made my own situation worse. I also went back to my local shrink center and told my PA what was going on.
>
> Nobody can provide any real answers or cures obviously. Then, the one other little complication is the fact that I would quit the Paxil I was on when I started ADderall. After all, when I did Adderall, I didn't need it or myy normal weed. I also wanted to avoid a very bad interaction with Paxil and alcohol since I can actually enjoy small amounts of alcohol while on Adderall (normally would not try since I am an alcoholic - somehow Adderall makes it ok).
>
> Anyone can say go to the hospital or whatever but I have been down that road before. There is really nothing they can do except provide an environment that makes the situation worse with no smoking cigerettes, and extra anxiety in general. Plus, I need to somehow be able to try to function for at least limited periods of time to finish out some obligations in my lawn and landscaping business I have been building from nothing this summer (got the account of 90 condos and 10 other small yards). ALSO, I start some classes on Monday!!! I wonder how I will fuction for them but I have to! I already have to drop the internet ones I never started that started in August. These other classes were ideal because theydidn't start until after summer was really pretty much over (the work).
>
> Well, I might very soon be in such bad shape that I can't do anything for a while, but I will try to at least come to this forum in hopes of any helpful words anyone can give me.
>
> I duddenly feel very desperate and hopeless and wish I could understand the klonopin atom bomb. It would be so easy to take another one and use it to ramp off this whole mess but I have not let myself do that since it caused this whole nightmare. I shoudl probably get rid of it after this nightmare.
>
> I will try to use this thread as support to get me out of this immediate crisis. Can anyone help?
>
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Posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 23:12:50
In reply to NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 20:58:43
At this moment I seem to be easing myself off the Adderall ok with alcohol. Of course Adderall was never the hard thing - it was always benzoids that created nightmare withdrawal and the only one I took that created the train wreck was 6 days ago. I sure have been tempted to take it agian but am trying to make my self suffer a bit now rather then getting immediate relief with that which wouold extend and increase the long term suffering. I guess one more vodka or so, some food, and sleep will be in order and I will see how tommorow is.
Posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 23:26:04
In reply to Re: NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil » WhyandHow, posted by azalea on October 11, 2008, at 23:01:00
Thank you. I wonder if the Straterra would really benefit me the same. It seems like it is only the addicitve or forbidden things that usually work well (with big problems later?).
The benzoid thing is amazing (in a horrible way). Somehow the Adderall could have enhanced the rebound/withdrawal? Usually I could do a one time isloated use of a benzoid without too much problem (xanax in the past). Usually a longer half life one like klonopin has less problems but certainly not in this case!
Well, right now I am wishing the Vodka would do more for me - perhaps I am back into tolerance with that now after drinking heavily this last couple days/nights.
Would Adderall tolerence increase and give me a big problem in itself down the road if I continued it? Well, right now I need to quit it at least for a while regardless.Anybody else have such freeky experience with benzoid withdrawal from a one time use? That still seems outragous and must have been magnified by the speed. Can anyone confirm that?
I have always thought the ADD/ADHD stuff was a joke but as I look back at my life - holy crap!! - a lot can be explained by it. Perhaps all the depresion and anxiety stuff is more of a symptom from that???
Posted by WhyandHow on October 12, 2008, at 11:23:01
In reply to Re: NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 23:26:04
I wish I could understand how and how much the Adderall had to do with going through benzoid withdrawal from one little klonopin. Normally one (Xanax) would be not too bad on an isolated ocasion even with my history of heavy benzoid addiction.
And how did it void the benefits of the Adderall after it wore off? At least Adderall tolerance seems to go back down if I stay away from it for a while. When I am sane and stable agian on my boring life of Paxil and weed I should persue this new realization of extreme ADHD.
Well, I had to quit the Vodka tonight - it aint doing much now . I ate and am just going to smoke some weed and hopefully sleep.
Posted by WhyandHow on October 12, 2008, at 11:34:27
In reply to Re: NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 12, 2008, at 11:23:01
Next morning:
Very depreesses. Anxiety. Gonna try to just stay up for the day and hopefully have no alcohol tonight and hopefully improvel I started taking the Paxil today but that will probagbly take a week or so to work agian - it never did a whole lot anyway I don't think but right now it might end up doing more than I realize to help over the next week.I guess nobody here has much to say that will help. Oh well. I know nothing can really help but time.
Posted by azalea on October 12, 2008, at 13:10:39
In reply to Re: NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 12, 2008, at 11:34:27
Alcohol withdrawal can be quite dangerous. If you start experiencing symptoms of alcohol withdrawal, please seek help from a health care provider.
> Next morning:
> Very depreesses. Anxiety. Gonna try to just stay up for the day and hopefully have no alcohol tonight and hopefully improvel I started taking the Paxil today but that will probagbly take a week or so to work agian - it never did a whole lot anyway I don't think but right now it might end up doing more than I realize to help over the next week.
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> I guess nobody here has much to say that will help. Oh well. I know nothing can really help but time.
Posted by WhyandHow on October 16, 2008, at 19:54:49
In reply to alcohol withdrawal » WhyandHow, posted by azalea on October 12, 2008, at 13:10:39
I wasn't too worried about alcohol withdrawal since I normally don't drink nowdays.
The benzoid thing was pretty freaky and the overall Adderall self medicating is probably not too good. I got off everything and am back to just Paxil and Pot agian. I am about 65 to 70% back to "norjmal" whatever that is.
Posted by azalea on October 16, 2008, at 20:03:59
In reply to Re: alcohol withdrawal, posted by WhyandHow on October 16, 2008, at 19:54:49
Glad to hear you're through the worst of the withdrawal process. It seems that treating ADHD could prevent another relapse. In a previous post, I mentioned Straterra as a nonstimulant med for ADHD. Another nonstimulant med for ADHD is guanfacine.
Info copied and pasted from wikipedia below:
Guanfacine can be used to control high blood pressure. It works by reducing heart rate and relaxing blood vessels.
It is also sometimes prescribed as a treatment for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. (In August 2006, the makers of Guanfacine applied to the FDA to use this drug to treat ADHD. In June 2007, the FDA has issued an approvable letter for Guanfacine for the use of ADHD treatment.) Another psychiatric use of guanfacine is for treatment of Post-traumatic Stress Disorder symptoms. It can reduce nightmares and flashbacks bringing significant relief to the patient. It is also sometimes used to relieve or reduce symptoms of Chronic Tic Disorder.> I wasn't too worried about alcohol withdrawal since I normally don't drink nowdays.
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> The benzoid thing was pretty freaky and the overall Adderall self medicating is probably not too good. I got off everything and am back to just Paxil and Pot agian. I am about 65 to 70% back to "norjmal" whatever that is.
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Posted by azalea on October 16, 2008, at 20:07:39
In reply to Re: alcohol withdrawal, posted by WhyandHow on October 16, 2008, at 19:54:49
Link to the information of Intuniv.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/74898.phpGuanfacine is currently available at pharmacies, although not in an extended release formulation.
Posted by WhyandHow on October 20, 2008, at 1:29:57
In reply to INTUNIV (guanfacine) ER » WhyandHow, posted by azalea on October 16, 2008, at 20:07:39
I would imagine those drugs you are talking about are not nearly as stimulating as Adderall or Vynase :(
It must be bad that I enjoy Adderall so much and get it illegally, etc. It enhances my sex life so much and much more. Its like I can suddenly enjoy things that others normally do, there is no more depression, no more need for Paxil or smoking pot, etc. But of course with my history of addiction, liking somehtihng like that can be dangerous I would imagine. One person I was honest to about it warned me - he is actually a doctor that I met online for sex!! He is into bondage - LOL. He seems a bit of a freak actually but also a nice guy. He told me I am going to f*ck myself up big time. Well, the thing is, right before this strange nightmare with a weeks worth of benzoid withdrawl form onelittle pill, I had actually and amazingly found a one time source to buy some Vynase with 1 or 2 middle men going to who knows who so I paid an arm and a leg for some. but when I went through that nightmare - tailspin, I just stashed it away for a rainy day knowing that I had to get myself totally off everything for a while before I could even consider taking any. Sure enough this laast Friday was the rainy day. I was back to my normal self o\f pot and paxil and had over eaten big time that night - the ole pot and eating and eating and pot revolving door. Before going to sleep at around 1am, I decided this was the perfect rainy day - even though it was night. Well, I basically havn't slept since! OF course the Vynase last so long and when I was in the middle of persuing fun and sex Saturday night after a long 6 day week or classes and work, I decided to take another pill in the evening. Well, so much for sleeping that night! Now its the third night and I am almost ready to go to bed. Drinking Vodka and OJ (normally don't nowdays), and finally had a wild orgasm after none for a long time (the benzoid chapter etc). It stimulates my sexual fantasies and such like cocaine used to do when I was younger and getting messed up. Well, usually when I realize that the negative effects of something out wiegh the positive I will make myself quit. Well, I can't afford the price I am paying for the ocasional new layer of life anyway - not in the long run. And it helps me loose wieght too! Well, something tells me that if I continued down this road it would not be all peaches and glory by a long shot. Maybe I need to hear from people who have been.
Posted by michaels1978 on October 30, 2008, at 22:22:52
In reply to NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 20:58:43
I def know what you're going through. I'm now at my father's detoxing with librium and klonopin. I've been to rehab or hospital detox about 15 times and can't handle going back. Anyway, I just found this site via a Google search and came across your post because I only have a bit of librium yet and wanted to know if I could detox with klonopin (most hospitals use Librium or Ativan to detox ppl from alcohol). I know you posted like 3 weeks ago, but just wanted to say hi and I hope you're doing better than I am right now. Feel free to email me if you want to get in touch.
Posted by paxvox59 on November 3, 2008, at 22:49:21
In reply to NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 20:58:43
WOW! I know this is sort of late for your immediate needs, but I was taking ALL those drugs by legit scripts in 2006. I can tell you that it is hard to quit all those meds at once w/o some sort of help. I did it in a rehab stint, but it took the longest to WD from Klonopin. Cocaine and amphetamenes all similar brain involvement. It took MANY months for my brain to clear from those meds. I've been clean for 23 months now, and it has been tough. I still believe that 12-step groups DO help if you are willing to humble yourself and accept their assistance. Please let me know if I can help.
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Posted by WhyandHow on November 6, 2008, at 3:25:38
In reply to Re: NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by paxvox59 on November 3, 2008, at 22:49:21
Thanks for the posts. Sorry I havn't been here for a while. I got off the Vynase, had 4 days of feeling super week, tired, and depressed and then another week or so of mostly psychologicalally not feeling up to par (and my par isn't very great - thats why I have always self medicated). NOW, I had my chance to get another round of Adderall. How can I say no to something that makes me feel so good, productive, fullfilled, and severely enhances my socail and sexual life (didn't have much of any life in those catagories nowdays before), etc. I am certainly concerned that it could become my worst addiction in my 42 year life but I have to convince myself one way or the other. I realized and figured out after a while that the "train wreck" that started this whole thread a while back was actually mostly caused by quitting the Paxil. It was not Klonopin withdrawal (that would be crazy from just one pill!). Paxil is the worst anti-depresant to quit - even gradually. Normally after missing even one day of that I am starting to feel bad but the adderall seemed to make me not need it so I would think that was the perfect time to quit the Paxil - WRONG! It masked the Paxil withdrawl for about 5 days and then created really horrible symptoms and the Adderall would stop working etc. I want to try the Adderall now without doing such a dumb thing like that. Part of me would really like to seek a legitimate script for Adderall but the other part of me thinks danger in the long run. How can I not do something that does so much for me? It is far better then any other drug I ever did.
Well, I am going to start being a regular contributer at this forum - or at least I want to now while on the Adderall agian. Other times I have a hard time putitng much energy and focus into such things.
Anyone that could tell me real specifically how much worse withdrawl can get after I have done it for a longer time - that would help. Right now it seems the negtative I go through while waiting till I can get some more is worth it to get the positive things I get when I do it.
How much worse does it get in the long run? I did quite a bit of coke when younger so I already have some tolerance etc. before (and certainly after) my few months of doing it for a week or 2 each month. Are the longer lasting deficencies afrter quitting more pysiological or psychological? It isn't like the horrible withdrawl of benzoids but still far from pleasant. Can it ever get dangerous? (mostly just in high doses I suppose).
Feel free to warn me, yell at me, tell me how if messed you up, tell me its ok or good, or tell me a doctor where I can get a script. It does seem too good to be true and that worries me a bit but as long as I can get it - at least for now - I am doing it.
Posted by azalea on November 10, 2008, at 22:05:31
In reply to Adderall addiction versus benefits, posted by WhyandHow on November 6, 2008, at 3:25:38
IMHO, your best bet would be to talk to a doctor about options for ADHD meds. Getting rounds of Adderall from the street is not a good idea. If stimulants control your symptoms, they should be taken under supervision of a medical professional.
> Thanks for the posts. Sorry I havn't been here for a while. I got off the Vynase, had 4 days of feeling super week, tired, and depressed and then another week or so of mostly psychologicalally not feeling up to par (and my par isn't very great - thats why I have always self medicated). NOW, I had my chance to get another round of Adderall. How can I say no to something that makes me feel so good, productive, fullfilled, and severely enhances my socail and sexual life (didn't have much of any life in those catagories nowdays before), etc. I am certainly concerned that it could become my worst addiction in my 42 year life but I have to convince myself one way or the other. I realized and figured out after a while that the "train wreck" that started this whole thread a while back was actually mostly caused by quitting the Paxil. It was not Klonopin withdrawal (that would be crazy from just one pill!). Paxil is the worst anti-depresant to quit - even gradually. Normally after missing even one day of that I am starting to feel bad but the adderall seemed to make me not need it so I would think that was the perfect time to quit the Paxil - WRONG! It masked the Paxil withdrawl for about 5 days and then created really horrible symptoms and the Adderall would stop working etc. I want to try the Adderall now without doing such a dumb thing like that. Part of me would really like to seek a legitimate script for Adderall but the other part of me thinks danger in the long run. How can I not do something that does so much for me? It is far better then any other drug I ever did.
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> Well, I am going to start being a regular contributer at this forum - or at least I want to now while on the Adderall agian. Other times I have a hard time putitng much energy and focus into such things.
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> Anyone that could tell me real specifically how much worse withdrawl can get after I have done it for a longer time - that would help. Right now it seems the negtative I go through while waiting till I can get some more is worth it to get the positive things I get when I do it.
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> How much worse does it get in the long run? I did quite a bit of coke when younger so I already have some tolerance etc. before (and certainly after) my few months of doing it for a week or 2 each month. Are the longer lasting deficencies afrter quitting more pysiological or psychological? It isn't like the horrible withdrawl of benzoids but still far from pleasant. Can it ever get dangerous? (mostly just in high doses I suppose).
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> Feel free to warn me, yell at me, tell me how if messed you up, tell me its ok or good, or tell me a doctor where I can get a script. It does seem too good to be true and that worries me a bit but as long as I can get it - at least for now - I am doing it.
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Posted by PollyFarm on November 30, 2008, at 2:11:15
In reply to NEED HELP. Klonopin/Adderall/alcohol/Paxil, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 20:58:43
I have to say that Adderall XR has done amazing things for me, too...I did well in school, am 38 now, never dreamed of being ADD but my therapist brought it up and so many of the pieces fit about being disorganized, etc...and wow, I realized how much anxiety and depression comes from not being able to get sh*t done in your life! My therapist practically jumped up and hugged me when I told her I was able to clean out my closet. And guess what, it's still clean...not to say that I have become a neat freak, but my brain is working better to keep organized...so so what if it is a "street" drug in many respects? It is also a legitimate treatment option to help one live a happier, more productive and actualized life.
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