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Posted by musky on May 28, 2006, at 23:48:41
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity, posted by gapsgal on May 28, 2006, at 9:21:28
>I agree all these warnings must be on the packages.. and doctors need to inform their patients alot more than they do... they would rather write that Rx than to do the research.. they dont have the time...
There are so many preventable deaths from wrongly prescribed drugs... just check the emergency wards at hospitals..
Pretty sad that when one is going through depression that they now have a double whammy with side effects (which suicide itself is a big one on these meds) and withdrawl..
That is not the quality of life here..
Help the person as a WHOLE not just put a bandaid on it with horrific drugs.
Not all meds are totally bad, but ALOT are very dangerous... just ask the families of patients who died while taking vioxx.
HOw long do we wait to ban these meds.. when enough people have died or become homocidal because of the side effects??musky
Those warnings would be nice, it would also be nice if the physicians didnt treat us like crazy idiots when we mention this withdrawal. Eli Lilly should be forthright about all of this and the doctors need to listen. Even if Eli Lilly didnt, then the doctors should do a little research themselves before giving us the meds.
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> > No - Scott is just, like me, waiting to pass jufgement until all the facts are in. I also have not seen in any post a secret life-threatening danger emerging from the use of Cymbalta. Yes it has potential adverse side-effects listed, but so do Tylenol and Ibuprofen, and all my child's medications. In fact, Risk of DEATH IS listed as a possible side-effect of one of her medications, yet for HER, that risk is worth it since she would have died anyway.
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> > What Scott and I are BOTH suggesting is that unless an unexpected, clear life-threatening hazard emerges from the use of Cymbalta, asking the FDA to "ban it" is premature.
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> > What Scott and I are demanding is that the company CLEARLY WARN of the potential for SEVERE withdrawal that even tapering off with their manufactured capsule dosages will neither prevent nor alleviate. They should clearly state that it can take SIX MONTHS or more to withdraw from 60mg of Cymbalta, and that the paient may be having to decrease by 2 GRANULES every two days in order to not end up in the hospital suffering from severe vomiting and dehydration.
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Posted by SLS on May 29, 2006, at 9:44:43
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity, posted by musky on May 28, 2006, at 23:41:11
You ask some good questions. If you are interested in receiving some answers, you can ask them on the main Psycho-Babble board. I think you'll find people willing to answer them. These topics are discussed there all the time.
- Scott
> > >When you say mental illness of a biological nature and that it has been proven stucturally and functionally,, by Whom??? has it been proven?? the DRug companies??? So many people are diagnosed with major depressive disorder and bipolar , and it seems its just a very common diagnosis...
> That to me is not realistic,,,if so then that means the human population is getting sicker not better... IF these conditions are treatable by medications then how come so MANY people keep having problems... its obvious that the number of years that these drugs have been on the market and NOT One of them has been a cure... proves that this is not the way to go...
> intervention yes... butit has been proven by proper testing that cognitive therapy does work with people with bipolar or major depressive disorder... NOT just minor depressive illness.
> Why deny the people of at least TRYING another method to help themselves?? And this will stay with them forever not the drugs which just add to the stew...
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> > > you know if these damn drugs were ALL BANNED in the first place you would have alot of people much happier...
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> > > People MUST wake up and take hold of themselves and not be screwed up by meds... our society is going way outa control here... When people say they have a mental illness, unless they were born with a brain deformity... (that's extreme) , I think alot of your mental illnesses are excuses to get tough with yourself and get WELL on your own,,,, NOT self pity yourself and give your self a life sentence of negative self talk like "poor me ... I have to take an a/d forever."
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Posted by Avalon on May 29, 2006, at 20:55:26
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal GOOD NEWS / Trying to HELP, posted by Avalon on May 25, 2006, at 15:56:09
KParis, I'm interested in hearing if you've had any withdrawal symptoms yet. I believe you've been off for 5 days now? Please update us if you have a moment. Hope all is well. Thanks.
Posted by kparis on May 29, 2006, at 21:08:24
In reply to Cymbalta withdrawal - KParis, posted by Avalon on May 29, 2006, at 20:55:26
> KParis, I'm interested in hearing if you've had any withdrawal symptoms yet. I believe you've been off for 5 days now? Please update us if you have a moment. Hope all is well. Thanks.
I put a posting on yesterday:
I'll tell you what. I'm just under 48 hours of stopping the Cymbalta and I am having a rough time. Man! For someone who is usually so happy I feel like crap, strange, hollow and full all at the same time. My head doesn't seem to belong to me...I'm sad, angry, dizzy, blocked, nauseated, tingling, bloated, heavy-hearted, teary, leg cramps, just plain awful...not to mention the dreams...too strange. How long does this usually last? I mean the really bad withdrawal? HELP! I will never put Cymbalta into my body again.
Kparis
Today I feel better...some. I had a rough night last night and had to sleep sitting up on the couch as when I would lay in bed I would wake from what felt like not breathing, swollowing my tongue, dreams!! This AM I was okay for a little while then the tears came. I went to see my pharmasist and we had a chat about Cymbalta. He does not like the drug, feels it is over rated, has been promoted as a wonder drug and is extremely over prescribed. He has seen people who have gained weight with this drug lose it after stopping. I'm hoping. I went home and began building our house with my husband in the 85 degree weather, drank lots of water (I don't like the sun/heat) and bought lots of fruit and veggies to eat. I'm afraid to go to bed...perhaps that is why I'm going on. I apologize for that.I truly appreciate you asking about how I'm doing. It make me feel less alone!
Tomorrow will be better. I'm going to look at a puppy. I've got to keep the positive going. I'm glad I took the week off of work!
Kparis
Posted by Mark23 on May 30, 2006, at 12:22:01
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity » gapsgal, posted by SLS on May 27, 2006, at 11:38:05
Unfortunately research has a LONG way to go. An interesting book "The Second Brain"
by Michael Gershon discusses what's going on in your stomach (a lot more serotonin activity than in your brain and the reason people have GI trouble taking SSRIs). That's one reason you start SSRIs at a low dose. After reading it I came to the conclusion that many medications treat symptoms and your body eventually overrides or at least diminishes the effect of the meds.For example if you take antacids for heartburn you stomach says "hey the pH is too high" and it pumps even more acid. The best thing would be to remove the stress that caused the heartburn. If it's cold outside and someone had set the thermostat too high, you don't open a window to cool the house, you turn down the thermostat! Opening a window might help for a while, but your house will not function properly and you heating bill will go up.
Similarly the body works hard to counteract the SSNRIs and in the meantime we suffer side effects. Until the pharmilogical industry learns how to turn down the thermostat instead of opening a window we will never be as helped as we could be.
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> There is an incredible amount of research being conducted in this area. Neuroscience is a field exploding with investigation. Internet search engines should provide you with evidence as to how large in scope and depth this research is.
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> Which things are known to cause damage, the drugs themselves or the withdrawal process? I think both can produce changes that persist. Unfortuately, these treatments are not what we would like them to be.
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> How do you know this? That is a rather sweeping statement that I have not yet seen stated in medical literature.
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> > Consider someone who is addicted to pain medicine, why? Because it has changed the way their brain works and chances are the change is permanent.
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> I am not sure that the permanence of these changes has yet been ascertained in research.
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> One thing that has not yet entered into this discussion is the impact mental illness has on one's ability to function and their quality of life. I feel that the degree to which these illnesses debilitate and cause pain is severe enough to be treated aggressively with drugs that are not yet perfect.
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Posted by Mark23 on May 30, 2006, at 14:18:02
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity, posted by Mark23 on May 30, 2006, at 12:22:01
Hmmmm that link didn't seem to work the book "The Second Brain
by Michael Gershon" is less than $11 at Amazon.
> Unfortunately research has a LONG way to go. An interesting book "The Second Brain"
> by Michael Gershon discusses what's going on in your stomach (a lot more serotonin activity than in your brain and the reason people have GI trouble taking SSRIs).
Posted by musky on May 31, 2006, at 0:25:03
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity, posted by Mark23 on May 30, 2006, at 12:22:01
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Just reading this post... and thats just great.. now Im a little concerned about permanent changes the drug ive been on has done... I always thought that this is just temporary and that the brain will recover after stopping the med... I mean there is so much out there that peoples addictions and personal experiences of people that have overcome their addictions and are fine.
Unless you count people that have been on hard street drugs... Im hoping that a/d are not as severe as Heroin... gee Now i really really wish I hadnt taken this damn a/d!!!
I agree with your comment about turning down the thermostat... I believe this too be true ,,, get at the ROOT of the problem, not just mask it with meds..
Meds may be usful for short term... even then I have my doubts.. but certainly not for long term.. thats where cognitive retraining comes in.musky
Unfortunately research has a LONG way to go. An interesting book "The Second Brain"
> by Michael Gershon discusses what's going on in your stomach (a lot more serotonin activity than in your brain and the reason people have GI trouble taking SSRIs). That's one reason you start SSRIs at a low dose. After reading it I came to the conclusion that many medications treat symptoms and your body eventually overrides or at least diminishes the effect of the meds.
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> For example if you take antacids for heartburn you stomach says "hey the pH is too high" and it pumps even more acid. The best thing would be to remove the stress that caused the heartburn. If it's cold outside and someone had set the thermostat too high, you don't open a window to cool the house, you turn down the thermostat! Opening a window might help for a while, but your house will not function properly and you heating bill will go up.
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Posted by elliemae on May 31, 2006, at 12:16:16
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity, posted by musky on May 31, 2006, at 0:25:03
How long do the withdrawal symptoms usually last? I stopped taking my Cymbalta 30mg 5 days ago (cold turkey) after being on the drug for 6 months. I've had dizziness, a constant headache and these weird "flashes" that are reminiscent of a head rush when you stand up too fast since Monday (three days).
I have Antivert but that doesn't seem to help at all. Does the Benedryl remedy that I've read about in these posts work?
Posted by Avalon on May 31, 2006, at 17:28:05
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Publicity, posted by elliemae on May 31, 2006, at 12:16:16
Ellimae, sorry you're going through the crap that everyone else on here seems to be experiencing. I will let someone else who's been through this advise you on how long to expect symptoms. I had stopped for 4 days (after only being on 3 weeks and STILL having withdrawal symptoms) but was advised by someone on the boards here to go back on and taper off. I imagine at your stage, 5 days off, it would be pointless to do that. I've now been tapering for 2 weeks, taking the 30 mg caps every other day and dumping out an increasing # of granules each time. (Counting those granules is like counting grains of sand!) I still fear I will have nausea when I completely stop.
Posted by kparis on May 31, 2006, at 17:53:11
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by Avalon on May 31, 2006, at 17:28:05
Hi,
I have officially been off of Cymbalta for one week today!! I feel better than I did on the horrible 4th and 5th day. My only symptoms now are the horrible edema and my eyes feel as if they are separate entities within my head...head goes one way, eyes go the other and never seem to catch up with each other. My sleep is still STRANGE and muscles ache, but, considering what it was like and could still be like, I'd say I'm doing pretty darn well.I hope you have as much "luck" as I have had with removing this insidious drug from your system!
KParis
Posted by kparis on June 1, 2006, at 7:34:28
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on May 31, 2006, at 17:53:11
I guess I spoke too soon yesterday. I had a horrible panic attack. I also put a call in to my psychiatrist about the edema. She said she'd never heard of that as a side effect. HAS ANYONE OUT THERE EXPERIENCED THE SEVERE EDEMA THING?! It is messed up.
Thanks and keep on keeping on...
kpairs
Posted by Nick K. on June 1, 2006, at 17:27:27
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on June 1, 2006, at 7:34:28
First things first: I'm just over 2 weeks into total abstinence from cymbalta now...The overwhelming intensity of the withdrawal experience has faded significantly and the "brain shocks" are no longer happening. However, I'm experiencing some of the old depressive symptoms such as: Exaggerated fear. Confusion. Difficulty focusing. Aggravation. Anxiety. Lack of self-confidence. Critical thinking about myself and my body.
I'm still keeping in mind that the withdrawal is probably the cause of these negative symptoms, which helps to put things in perspective. These thoughts and feelings ARE NOT REAL, they are generated by my own mind for reasons I don't understand. I don't believe in any particular god, but I force myself to pray for help several times a day... just in case there IS a higher power out there. it seems to be helping somehow. Also, trying to help somebody else is the most counter-intuitive thing for me to do in this condition, but it is an unbelievable relief.
Regarding the EDEMA issue:
I've noticed the same sort of thing in myself, but not to the serious degree that you (Ellimae) have described. I feel bloated, like I'm retaining water, or just not nearly as attractive as I was used to feeling before. I can't tell if this is my mind playing tricks on the way I perceive myself, or if I am actually suffering from physical symptoms. I forced myself to excercise yesterday for almost 2 hours, until I was completely exhausted. Coincidentally I slept well last night and I feel better today. I wouldn't be surprised if physical activity is a form of detox.My mind will try to convince me of some horrible things sometimes...
I refuse to become a victim of my own brain.At least, thats what I'm telling myself today.
-Nick
Posted by Nick K. on June 1, 2006, at 17:37:46
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by Nick K. on June 1, 2006, at 17:27:27
I meant to direct the edema issue to kparis, not ellimae... sorry!
-Nick
Posted by kparis on June 1, 2006, at 18:47:30
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by Nick K. on June 1, 2006, at 17:27:27
Hi Nick not a problem.
I spoke with my psychiatrist last evening about the edema and she told me to speak with my GP. I called him today and will see him tomorrow. I'll let you all know what he says.
I, too, use exercise as a form of detox. It does work. I also went out and bought tons of fresh fruits, veggies, and I drink 6-9 bottles of water per day. I think it helps. I also started taking 1000 mg of omega 3 vitamins and vit E. I read that that may help with the weight gain from the Cymbaltal and with the withdrawal in general. I hope so!
Congrats on your 2 weeks! I don't even know you and yet I'm proud of you! It's not easy to just stop and not give in to the temptation of just taking it again. Way to go!
Have a great evening and I hope you sleep well again.
Kparis
Posted by gapsgal on June 1, 2006, at 22:05:40
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on June 1, 2006, at 7:34:28
guys i was having the edema as well and i was just informed by my doctor that I need to see a specialist because I am experiencing kidney failure...hopefully all of this is just a coincidence...but just in case as your doctors to check your kidney function.
Donna
> I guess I spoke too soon yesterday. I had a horrible panic attack. I also put a call in to my psychiatrist about the edema. She said she'd never heard of that as a side effect. HAS ANYONE OUT THERE EXPERIENCED THE SEVERE EDEMA THING?! It is messed up.
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Posted by kparis on June 2, 2006, at 16:56:24
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by gapsgal on June 1, 2006, at 22:05:40
Hi All,
Day nine and counting!
I saw my GP today and he agreed that this is an evil drug to get off of. He also said that there were many more side effects than with most other drugs of its kind. My BP is high and I need to have a kidney function test done on Monday along with other tests. He said that I have to get my BP down and that will help with the edema. He does not feel that I will need to be on BP meds when I'm finished with the withdrawal. I feel like crap. A sausage about to pop. Blah.
Hope you're all doing well/better than yesterday/all that is good.
Kparis
Posted by Avalon on June 2, 2006, at 17:15:03
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on June 2, 2006, at 16:56:24
Kparis, that's great that you've made it 9 days but really discouraging that you're still having symptoms. I am now down to every other day, I dump increasing # of granules out each time so I'm probably down to about a 15 mg dose. And I already have waves of nausea here and there, and I'm not even completely off it yet. I'd like to stop after tomorrow's dose, but I'm so afraid. I am trying to get my house ready to sell so there's a lot of work to be done, and I can't afford to be sick....especially for an extended period of time!
Please keep us posted and hope you feel better soon.
Posted by gapsgal on June 3, 2006, at 11:07:16
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on June 2, 2006, at 16:56:24
I am down to 15 mg as well, i have been told that my kidneys are losing function and that I may have kidney disease, could this be a coincidence? Do you think our kidneys have been damaged by this drug? I have already lost 30 percent of my overal kidney function which should be at 90.
> Hi All,
> Day nine and counting!
> I saw my GP today and he agreed that this is an evil drug to get off of. He also said that there were many more side effects than with most other drugs of its kind. My BP is high and I need to have a kidney function test done on Monday along with other tests. He said that I have to get my BP down and that will help with the edema. He does not feel that I will need to be on BP meds when I'm finished with the withdrawal. I feel like crap. A sausage about to pop. Blah.
> Hope you're all doing well/better than yesterday/all that is good.
> Kparis
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Posted by kparis on June 3, 2006, at 12:07:06
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by gapsgal on June 3, 2006, at 11:07:16
I am so sorry about the kidney function. Could be it has affected our kidneys. I had an extremely difficult time yesterday/last evening. When will it end? It seems that one gets through what one thinks is the worst of it and then something else crops up and feels like the worst of it. This is not okay. We truly must watch our kidney functions and ask many questions. If it is destroying our kidneys, what are we to do? It feels like something out of a B horror movie!
Kparis
Posted by gapsgal on June 4, 2006, at 11:06:53
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on June 3, 2006, at 12:07:06
I never linked my kidney problem to this until I began reading other posts. The sad thing is that Eli Lilly would never admit to this if it is related.
Donna
> I am so sorry about the kidney function. Could be it has affected our kidneys. I had an extremely difficult time yesterday/last evening. When will it end? It seems that one gets through what one thinks is the worst of it and then something else crops up and feels like the worst of it. This is not okay. We truly must watch our kidney functions and ask many questions. If it is destroying our kidneys, what are we to do? It feels like something out of a B horror movie!
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Posted by kparis on June 4, 2006, at 15:08:23
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by gapsgal on June 4, 2006, at 11:06:53
http://www.yourlawyer.com/newsletter/read/57
this site talks about Cymbalta.
My kidney pain goes on and on. Tuesday I'll have tests done. My GP feels that Cymbalta is to blame.
I'll keep you posted.
Be well!
KParis
Posted by kparis on June 5, 2006, at 21:00:22
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal » secretme, posted by kparis on April 30, 2006, at 11:28:38
Is no one any longer reading/responding/sharing on this blog?
Posted by Avalon on June 5, 2006, at 22:03:30
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by kparis on June 5, 2006, at 21:00:22
Hi KP, I'm still here. In fact, I have an update from my appt with my PM doc this morning. As you may recall, when I called his office to tell him I was going through withdrawal, I was told I should NOT be going through withdrawal from Cymbalta. So that was a couple weeks ago and I went back on the drug and have been slowly tapering off ever since. Today I probably took about 5 mg worth. So at my appt today, he again tells me he doubts it was withdrawal, it was probably a stomach flu. When I started to say what the packaging said about the symptoms from abrupt discontinuance (which included nausea, which I had), he cut me off and said he was quite aware of what was in the prescribing information, and that abrupt withdrawal meant going from a much higher dose to zero ... not 30 mg like I had been on. So I just let the conversation drop, I wasn't about to argue and I certainly wasn't about to cite the Internet, you know how much they love that. He said no other patients have complained of this. His nurse told me she went off it and had no problems. So I guess we all just have the stomach flu...for weeks on end.
I think I will try not taking anymore after today's dose. I'll let you know how I feel in a few days. I hope I don't get sick because I'm having dinner with friends Thurs. night. How are YOU feeling?
Posted by gapsgal on June 5, 2006, at 22:13:26
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Ellimae, posted by kparis on June 4, 2006, at 15:08:23
I have submitted my info to the law site you suggested and hope you did the same. Maybe if enough of us do this something can be done.
Donna
> http://www.yourlawyer.com/newsletter/read/57
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> Be well!
> KParis
Posted by gapsgal on June 5, 2006, at 22:16:03
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by Avalon on June 5, 2006, at 22:03:30
Do you plan to continue seeing this doctor? I have just about had it with these doctors who are not up to date on this and act like we are all idiots.
> Hi KP, I'm still here. In fact, I have an update from my appt with my PM doc this morning. As you may recall, when I called his office to tell him I was going through withdrawal, I was told I should NOT be going through withdrawal from Cymbalta. So that was a couple weeks ago and I went back on the drug and have been slowly tapering off ever since. Today I probably took about 5 mg worth. So at my appt today, he again tells me he doubts it was withdrawal, it was probably a stomach flu. When I started to say what the packaging said about the symptoms from abrupt discontinuance (which included nausea, which I had), he cut me off and said he was quite aware of what was in the prescribing information, and that abrupt withdrawal meant going from a much higher dose to zero ... not 30 mg like I had been on. So I just let the conversation drop, I wasn't about to argue and I certainly wasn't about to cite the Internet, you know how much they love that. He said no other patients have complained of this. His nurse told me she went off it and had no problems. So I guess we all just have the stomach flu...for weeks on end.
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> I think I will try not taking anymore after today's dose. I'll let you know how I feel in a few days. I hope I don't get sick because I'm having dinner with friends Thurs. night. How are YOU feeling?
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