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Posted by Maxime on March 6, 2005, at 23:25:37
Which benzo are you trying to get off of? Are you using Valium as a replacement or is it the Valium itself.
This link will bring you to a withdrawal schedule.
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htmMaxime
Posted by NealMcCoy on March 7, 2005, at 5:28:23
In reply to NealMcCoy - Please read re. withdrawal from valium, posted by Maxime on March 6, 2005, at 23:25:37
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
I was initially on klonopin, but I switched over to valium about 8 months ago and have been withdrawaling from it until for about 6. I never had this problem until I reached a very very low dosage of valium(0.5 mgs) I don't think I can handle this on top of withdrawal symptoms, so I think i'll reinstate to a higher dosage.
Phillipa..Benzos don't work for me anymore. That's what I am getting off of them. They create tolerance, meaning you have to take more and more. When I was taking 0.5 mgs of klonopin a day, I had bad anxiety cause I was in tolerance. I didn't have much of a choice.
Posted by SLS on March 7, 2005, at 8:20:11
In reply to Re: NealMcCoy - Please read re. withdrawal from valium, posted by NealMcCoy on March 7, 2005, at 5:28:23
> Thanks for the feedback everyone!
I'm wondering if using a pro-GABAergic anticonvulsant might help. Something like Depakote or Neurontin.
Sorry to see you having such a hard time.
I don't know if you would have the same success I've had with it, but I use a very flexible dosing strategy to withdraw from SRIs and BZDs. I literally end up taking small amounts as a PRN throughout the day whenever the withdrawal symptoms appear. I end up needing less and less and less. Divide the pills into fractions. I like to take enough to last 6-8 hours until the withdrawal symptoms re-appear. Don't wait any more than 1/2 - 1 hour before dosing once they do. I end up just biting off small pieces of tablets several times a day as I approach the finish line.
This is a very basic overview. I have described in a bit more detail my strategy in other threads.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 17:15:53
In reply to Re: NealMcCoy - Please read re. withdrawal from valium » NealMcCoy, posted by SLS on March 7, 2005, at 8:20:11
I wonder why I don't build up a tolerance to benzos? I seem to have done this with the AD's. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 10:57:03
In reply to Re: NealMcCoy - Please read re. withdrawal from valium, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2005, at 17:15:53
Hi P!
>I wonder why I don't build up a tolerance to benzos? I seem to have done this with the AD's.
It's pretty much impossible to predict who'll develop a tolerance to a given drug, I guess it depends a lot on a person's individual physiology ie. whether your body is capable of making compensatory cellular changes to oppose the effects of a given drug. Even if a person rapidly develops tolerance to one drug, it doesn't mean that they'll necessarily develop tolerance to a drug with a different mechanism of action.
In the real world, the development of tolerance is unpredictable. At university, we're taught that tolerance to some drugs is inevitable (eg benzos) but that tolerance to other drugs doesn't occur (eg antidepressants). This is a load of rubbish! The way that we respond to drugs is very individual, it depends on so many different factors eg our genetics, life circumstances etc.
It's also interesting how people can develop rapid tolerance to some actions of a drug but that tolerance to other effects is rare. For example, tolerance to morphine-induced respiratory depression is very rapid, allowing large increases in dose if required to treat severe pain. On the other hand, tolerance to morphine-induced constipation is pretty much unheard of, which is why people usually need to use laxatives for as long as they take morphine.
Ed xxx
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