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Posted by Paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 1:06:17
I recently saw a doco on Ozzy Osbourne, where he stated:
"I never drank socially, I never smoked dope socially, i never took Cocaine socially. I did it to get "f*cked up"?. "I was instantly an addict. I was born an addict".
At the height of his dissapation, he was doing $1000 Cocaine weekly+4 bottles Cognac daily.
Comments?Thanks
Posted by alexandra_k on November 3, 2005, at 1:23:45
In reply to 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by Paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 1:06:17
> I recently saw a doco on Ozzy Osbourne, where he stated:
> "I never drank socially, I never smoked dope socially, i never took Cocaine socially. I did it to get "f*cked up"?. "I was instantly an addict. I was born an addict".LOL! I use to get f*cked up too.
But I guess I'm a little different from him, because I'll happily use socially too ;-)
But socially... Well... Sometimes I wish other people liked to get as f*cked up as me ;-)For some people they just need to feel that high..
And they get addicted to that feeling.
> At the height of his dissapation, he was doing $1000 Cocaine weekly+4 bottles Cognac daily.> Comments?
Well then, I guess he could afford himself some fairly expensive therapy lol.
Tolerance.
The body conspires against you...
Doesn't matter how much money you have you can never have enough of the drug if its the drug you most desire.I think its sad.
Imagine what else he could have done with that money...
Imagine how much of his life and the significant events of other peoples lives that he missed out on...
Because when it comes to using...
When it comes to using coming first...
Other people get stomped on
As we work towards our own self-destruction
And I think its sad...
Posted by Declan on November 3, 2005, at 1:36:14
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought? » Paulbwell, posted by alexandra_k on November 3, 2005, at 1:23:45
He must have had access to cheap coke then. Elton John said he was snorting it every 5 minutes, which sounds more like it. But 4 bottles of cognac a day?
I feel like that about drink too. Simultaneously too much and not enough. I tell myself again and again that less is more.
Declan
Posted by Paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 4:00:06
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by Declan on November 3, 2005, at 1:36:14
> He must have had access to cheap coke then. Elton John said he was snorting it every 5 minutes, which sounds more like it. But 4 bottles of cognac a day?
>
> I feel like that about drink too. Simultaneously too much and not enough. I tell myself again and again that less is more.
>
> DeclanI reead E john was snorting Coke every 10 minutes.
My basic point is when you feel scared and afraid alot, drink, drugs, mask, take away the feeling, until it wears off. You either recover, continue, or die-often a seemingly welcome to the problem:(
OK?
Posted by Paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 4:05:41
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by Paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 4:00:06
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> I reead E john was snorting Coke every 10 minutes.
>
> My basic point is when you feel scared and afraid alot, drink, drugs, mask, take away the feeling, until it wears off. You either recover, continue, or die-often a seemingly welcome to the problem:(
>
> OK?
>
>
I have had a bit to drink tonight, i may take some Valium to top it off, I often wish i didn't wake up, if i took ALLthe meds i have that would probably happen, althought that would cause sh*t amoung my family. massive Valium+Imipamine+propranolol=sh*t.
Posted by AuntieMel on November 3, 2005, at 10:53:16
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by Paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 4:05:41
> My basic point is when you feel scared and afraid alot, drink, drugs, mask, take away the feeling, until it wears off. You either recover, continue, or die-often a seemingly welcome to the problem:(
I think jail is the fourth option.
Many, many of us ended up in the drink because of those feelings. I always felt like I was never good enough, good looking enough, funny enough.....
I always felt like no one liked me and I was all alone in the world. If someone, for some odd reason, *did* like me - well, something must be wrong with him.
But a couple of drinks? I was brimming with confidence. I could do anything.
It's a chicken and egg problem, but I've read that they are finding that more depressed people start drinking than drunks end up with depression. And a high number of depressives end up drink/drug abusers.
I finally, after years, quit the drink. Will it be forever? Who knows. But I figured out I could never get a grip on the depression with the drink complicating things. It's been a long road, but I think it has been worth it.
Good luck.
Posted by heatherann on November 3, 2005, at 13:02:51
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought? » Paulbwell, posted by AuntieMel on November 3, 2005, at 10:53:16
> > My basic point is when you feel scared and afraid alot, drink, drugs, mask, take away the feeling, until it wears off. You either recover, continue, or die-often a seemingly welcome to the problem:(
>
> I think jail is the fourth option.Don't forget wet-brained tied down to a bed. Sometimes folks don't get lucky enough to die. Maybe wet-brained tied down to a bed in jail after killing a family of three while driving under the influence but not even remembering it.
I agree, I couldn't even touch my depression or other assorted mental illness related problems until I stopped drinking. 1 drink is not ENOUGH, but it will send me right back to utter turmoil. Depression + drunk = complete ineptitude on my part.
>fun topic :)
> Many, many of us ended up in the drink because of those feelings. I always felt like I was never good enough, good looking enough, funny enough.....
>
> I always felt like no one liked me and I was all alone in the world. If someone, for some odd reason, *did* like me - well, something must be wrong with him.
>
> But a couple of drinks? I was brimming with confidence. I could do anything.
>
> It's a chicken and egg problem, but I've read that they are finding that more depressed people start drinking than drunks end up with depression. And a high number of depressives end up drink/drug abusers.
>
> I finally, after years, quit the drink. Will it be forever? Who knows. But I figured out I could never get a grip on the depression with the drink complicating things. It's been a long road, but I think it has been worth it.
>
> Good luck.
Posted by paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 14:05:35
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by heatherann on November 3, 2005, at 13:02:51
> > > My basic point is when you feel scared and afraid alot, drink, drugs, mask, take away the feeling, until it wears off. You either recover, continue, or die-often a seemingly welcome to the problem:(
> >
> > I think jail is the fourth option.
>
> Don't forget wet-brained tied down to a bed. Sometimes folks don't get lucky enough to die. Maybe wet-brained tied down to a bed in jail after killing a family of three while driving under the influence but not even remembering it.
>
> I agree, I couldn't even touch my depression or other assorted mental illness related problems until I stopped drinking. 1 drink is not ENOUGH, but it will send me right back to utter turmoil. Depression + drunk = complete ineptitude on my part.
> >
>
> fun topic :)
>
> > Many, many of us ended up in the drink because of those feelings. I always felt like I was never good enough, good looking enough, funny enough.....
> >
> > I always felt like no one liked me and I was all alone in the world. If someone, for some odd reason, *did* like me - well, something must be wrong with him.
> >
> > But a couple of drinks? I was brimming with confidence. I could do anything.
> >
> > It's a chicken and egg problem, but I've read that they are finding that more depressed people start drinking than drunks end up with depression. And a high number of depressives end up drink/drug abusers.
> >
> > I finally, after years, quit the drink. Will it be forever? Who knows. But I figured out I could never get a grip on the depression with the drink complicating things. It's been a long road, but I think it has been worth it.
> >
> > Good luck.
>
>
I hear ya all, the booze DOES complicate mental health problems, and indeed this morning, i'v had a few to starve off the sh*t feelingd fromthe night b4.Alcohol seems to alieveate fear, lack of confidence, and other psychic sh*t. however when the stuff wears off, the symptoms return with avengince, thank god i got Stelazine, Valium, to keep me outa hosp,
F*ck, when the high of being, merry, drunk, hits, it's f*cking wonderfull.
Posted by paulbwell on November 4, 2005, at 18:21:15
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by paulbwell on November 3, 2005, at 14:05:35
I agree^, being depressed, can make wanna drink, and drinking can cause depression,
Chicken and egg
demon Alcohol.
Posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2005, at 9:27:30
In reply to Re: 1 drink 2 many 10 not enought?, posted by paulbwell on November 4, 2005, at 18:21:15
Demon Alcohol. Kinks.
Posted by Paulbwell on December 2, 2005, at 22:25:53
In reply to Re: great song » paulbwell, posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2005, at 9:27:30
> Demon Alcohol. Kinks.
"Wine is fine, but whiskys quicker, suicide is slow with liquor"-Ozzy "suicide suilation"-1981.
And this from a guy whos'd drank oceans of Vodka, and snorted enought Cocaine-to finance the budgets of several small countries.
4-bottles+Cognac daily at the height of his dissapation!.
OZZY-
"i'v done
-speed
-pot
-Acid-LSD,(2 years continual use)early 1970's
-Smack
-Quaalude
-Barbiturates
-Dope
-Booze
-Pot-Everything,he should know, (or not know?) depends on how you look at it. But he's got $100s of millions of $$, so he can do what the f*ck he wants.
Cheers
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