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Posted by morning*bell on January 21, 2005, at 19:25:38
and nobody knows. nobody knows.
Isn't it so easy? It's much easier to block out the problems...
Posted by Impermanence on January 21, 2005, at 22:32:34
In reply to 8.30 so many drinks, posted by morning*bell on January 21, 2005, at 19:25:38
Tommorow morning will come and you'll feel even worse. From one alcoholic to another, give up the booze and stick with benzos and cannabis. Your problems will still disappear just as well, in fact it's so much more fun, no hangovers, you look so much better you feel great. You can smoke 24/7 with little cons for the many pros, laziness, lack of ambition and a little paranoia but thats what the benzos are for. You can grow your own and buy diazepam over the internet.
Ohh the thoughts of needing a half a bottle of Vodka to stop shaking makes me cringe. The world is so horrible through the bottom of a glass. But it's so beautiful, funny and simple after a spliff.
Posted by just so sad on January 21, 2005, at 23:15:54
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks » morning*bell, posted by Impermanence on January 21, 2005, at 22:32:34
How can one human being recommend this course of "healing" to another?? My advise, fight the battle for the side you're on instead of adding another enemy...and I'm drunk as I write this...fighting my own demons...
> Tommorow morning will come and you'll feel even worse. From one alcoholic to another, give up the booze and stick with benzos and cannabis. Your problems will still disappear just as well, in fact it's so much more fun, no hangovers, you look so much better you feel great. You can smoke 24/7 with little cons for the many pros, laziness, lack of ambition and a little paranoia but thats what the benzos are for. You can grow your own and buy diazepam over the internet.
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> Ohh the thoughts of needing a half a bottle of Vodka to stop shaking makes me cringe. The world is so horrible through the bottom of a glass. But it's so beautiful, funny and simple after a spliff.
Posted by Impermanence on January 21, 2005, at 23:37:13
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks, posted by just so sad on January 21, 2005, at 23:15:54
My words were not intended to be a course of "healing" as you put it. As an experienced drug abuser and alcoholic I've now found peace with just cannabis and benzos, the lesser of many evils, and I wanted to share this peace with someone drinking. Drinking brought me nothing but misery and suicide attempts, that's not the case with weed which I've been smoking for 13 years now.
Some people will tell you to go to A.A. get everything out of your system, talk your problems out of you, fine, thats a course of healing. I'm not giving a course of healing, just giving my opinion on another vice that will ease the woes of life, thats not so hard on your body and much more fun.
Sometimes people never stop needing something, such is life. IMHO it's better being a spliff and a few benzos than a bottle of vodka.
> How can one human being recommend this course of "healing" to another?? My advise, fight the battle for the side you're on instead of adding another enemy...and I'm drunk as I write this...fighting my own demons...
Posted by alexandra_k on January 22, 2005, at 1:50:34
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks » just so sad, posted by Impermanence on January 21, 2005, at 23:37:13
Ah, I could agree with you with the pot, but not the benzo's. They can turn your life into a living hell. They turned my life into a living hell. I am better off having a drink of alchohol than I am touching those damned wonderfully addictive things - though of course one does not preclude the other.
Hey, maybe this means that different people have problems with different drugs.
I am not sure that reccomending a substitution is the answer. It could lead to so many more problems.
Best to steer clear of em all.
Posted by Impermanence on January 22, 2005, at 16:42:06
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks » Impermanence, posted by alexandra_k on January 22, 2005, at 1:50:34
No, you're right about the benzos, I'm in love with the little beauties. I can't enjoy weed without them anymore, my mind just races and panic is always looming. Either thats benzo dependence or my cannabis days are over for a year or so and we can't have that now can we ;)
The most beautiful high is a fat sticky Sativa spliff with about 60 or 70mgs of diazepam in your system for the tranquil effect. Add 200mgs of Dihydrocodeine to that concoction and I'm in heaven lol.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 22, 2005, at 23:31:13
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks » alexandra_k, posted by Impermanence on January 22, 2005, at 16:42:06
> The most beautiful high is a fat sticky Sativa spliff with about 60 or 70mgs of diazepam in your system for the tranquil effect. Add 200mgs of Dihydrocodeine to that concoction and I'm in heaven lol.
The trouble is tolerance.
Then withdrawal.
You really really really really do not want to go through withdrawal from Benzo's - trust me on that.If you have to have to must use something then I suppose pot is something I consider to be a lesser evil. But it can be what gets others down.
Hmm.
For every easy high
There follows a crappy low
Law of drugs :-(
Maybe not immediately.
But they will get your *ss in the end.
Posted by Impermanence on January 23, 2005, at 16:56:15
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks » Impermanence, posted by alexandra_k on January 22, 2005, at 23:31:13
I've been through benzo withdrawal many times Alexandra, yes it's not pretty but I keep getting into the ring for another round. Withdrawal (every substance) is the story of my life lol (at least I can laugh about it). My theory now is just stay on them (benzos) and keep upping the dose.
I'm moving to Amsterdam (Netherlands) in a couple of months where laws on benzos as with cannabis are more lax and I'm going major doctor shopping as with internet pharmacies to stock up. I'm going to spend another year depressing my central nervous system and smoking my brains out and then I'll think about growing up. But I ant drinking, thats my real poison.
Posted by Sebastian on January 28, 2005, at 12:04:53
In reply to Re: 8.30 so many drinks » Impermanence, posted by alexandra_k on January 22, 2005, at 1:50:34
Well I've learned that talking does not work. No one wants to hear it, not even my psychiatrist. I tried to go that route, but never could solve the problems. I guess the bast way to do it is just not drink. Take lots of medicine, and smoke cigarettes. Once and a while like on the weekend drink one or two, only. Watch tv and feel good about your medicine and self. Some how forget your problems and think about the buzz off medicine. Worked for the 3 years before talk therapy did not work for the 3rd time. Hang overs suck, lost sleep sucks. Meds are good. Think about taking meds and how great and happy you are, even if you are not. Smile, for no reason, don't let anything bother you. Does this work again for a while, I hope so. I've been drinking 2 every day now for the last week or so. Tired as heck. I agree pot is better, only problem is you forget every think and tired all the time. Once a week again, thats what I will do. Thanks!
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