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Posted by krazybirdlady on December 5, 2003, at 23:40:06
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by krazybirdlady on December 5, 2003, at 23:37:57
sorry, that's my old one my new one is loripert@hotmail.com...
Posted by stjames on December 6, 2003, at 2:52:13
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 5, 2003, at 23:17:45
If male, the best place to hide things is xxx.
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 7:31:39
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by stjames on December 6, 2003, at 2:52:13
Man, that's silly. I've been in Candada twice across the Washington-BC border, and have never been searched. There's no reason that they WOULD search. Besides, I have far more ingenious ways of hiding the stuff.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 10:07:16
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 5, 2003, at 23:29:57
change your money....wouldn't that just be a little too obvious??
Posted by stjames on December 6, 2003, at 12:50:56
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 7:31:39
> Man, that's silly.
Ah, get some clue. Some of us have been doing this
for decades, crossing many international borders,
to get our meds. You clearly have never done this,
I have for years.
I have had everything searched on the north and south US borders. I had my whole car taken apart on the south border. It is quite a different thing to
bring the scheduled meds vs. unscheduled.
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:13:03
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by stjames on December 6, 2003, at 12:50:56
I've never taken anything across borders, but I'm very adept at hiding things. Things are best hidden in plain sight. Besides, customs only tends to stop you if you look suspicious--which I don't, and won't. Thanks for the concern, but I won't be needing to hide anything xxx.
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:25:08
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:13:03
I've been considering hiding the stuff in several different ways--xxx. I'll declare one bottle at customs.
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:28:41
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 10:07:16
Why would it be obvious? I could appear just like any other Canadian--including the accent. Use UDS, and I'll defintely look like a foreigner.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 14:52:38
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:28:41
sorry, that's what i meant. using USD would make your transaction too obvious to the pharmacists. even though it's perfectly legal to sell them to you, they might give you a word of caution if they think you are American. USD are not readily accepted in pharmacies, but some near the border may. CND is your safest and easiest bet.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 14:57:20
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:28:41
> Why would it be obvious? I could appear just like any other Canadian--including the accent. Use UDS, and I'll defintely look like a foreigner.
so ya can talk canajien, EH?? wasn't aware that we were the ones with the accent....LOL
Posted by stjames on December 6, 2003, at 16:40:16
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:13:03
Besides, customs only tends to stop you if you look suspicious--which I don't, and won't.
Ha. given that you have not done this and I have I can tell you looks have nothing to do with it.
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 16:47:12
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 14:57:20
One of my college minors was linguistics, and I was heavily into phonetics for a time; on top of that, I have a razor-sharp ear. I can mimick any accent that I've heard. 99% of the differences between all English dialects are in the vowels; you have to listen for the vowel sounds and mimick them.
BTW, do I pronounce the drug name as a word (asa), or letter by letter (ASA)? Thanks.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 16:50:40
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 16:47:12
By the letter. ASA, but better off to call it plain ol' aspirin. not the accent i'm thinking of really, but the terminology. have you heard of a loonie or a twoonie?? might do you well if you know what that is...
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 17:04:43
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 16:50:40
Loonies and twoonies are Canadian $1 and $2 bills. I'm familiar with Canada to some degree; just never tried to impersonate a Canadian before.
Eh.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 17:17:48
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 17:04:43
LOL...good for you, you are doing a good job so far. another thought is that you may want to have a destination in mind in case you're asked at border. if you don't know anyone in Ontario, then the Casino would be a most believable response...
Posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 20:13:01
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 17:17:48
I'd planned on saying we were on our way to London to see family; but I like your idea better. Where is the casino?
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 20:23:59
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 20:13:01
there is a casino in Windsor...i'm not sure of the address but it won't matter anyway. lots of US citizens cross over for this, you might even ask at customs to give you directions...i'm sure that they would be delighted to do so...
Posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 11:44:58
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by krazybirdlady on December 6, 2003, at 20:23:59
I'm at the 44hr48min mark, and the worst of the withdrawal is over. It peaked last night about 2-3am and has been receding since. I didn't even take any Xanax this morning. The return of the depression is far worse than the withdrawal symptoms themselves; but I'm still waiting until the end of the week to start back on the hydrocodone. Whatever tolerance has developed over the last month with be gone by then; and then I'm good for another month. One month at a time.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 7, 2003, at 12:51:53
In reply to Update on the holiday, posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 11:44:58
good for you BSJ, you have certainly proven that you control the drug, not the other way around. i'm a bit surprised that at only 20mg of hydro, only taken for 4 wk intervals, that you get any substantial withdrawl symptoms at all.
Posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 14:12:48
In reply to Re: Update on the holiday, posted by krazybirdlady on December 7, 2003, at 12:51:53
The lit on hydro says that withdrawal symptoms can appear after as little as two weeks. But my depressive symptoms include some of the same associated with opiate withdrawal--anxiety, e.g.; so it may or may not be the drug.
As for controlling: it's the fact that I intend to use the drug for an indefinite period of time; and tolerance is ruinous. I'd be paying a hundred bucks a day after 9 months to a year to maintain the effects. One week out of five is not an insignificant compromise, but it's the only thing I can think of. The last thing I need is to end up like de Quincy; at the height of his laudanum addiction, he was chugging down enough opium daily to kill several people. If you've never read CONFESSIONS, esp. the "Pains of Opium" section, you ought to.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 7, 2003, at 16:53:04
In reply to Re: Update on the holiday, posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 14:12:48
i have never read it, but now you have my interest peaked, so i will. when i mentioned significant withdrawl i guess i meant clessic physical withdrawl, as in severe body aches, vomiting,weakness , headache..etc...anxiety is one too but it is minor, and as you say could be compounded by your depressive symptoms. i will say one thing though..most people who become dependant on opiates lack one glowing feature; they never look down the road. YOU do. that sets you far apart from the huddled masses just looking for a lift today. you are looking for a life tomorrow....kudos on that.
Posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 18:15:30
In reply to Re: Update on the holiday, posted by krazybirdlady on December 7, 2003, at 16:53:04
CONFESSIONS OF AN ENGLISH OPIUM-EATER:
De Quincy was a fascinating charater of the early 19th century. Despite the great pains it brought him, he never denounced opium, never became a crusader against it; for him, it was like dabbling with food of the gods--something so strong that mere mortals couldn't bear it. He begins with glowing passages like this:
"Here was a panacea for all human woes; here was the secret of happiness, about which philosophers had disputed for so many ages, at once discovered: happiness might now be bought for a penny, and carried in the waistcoat pocket; portable ecstacies might be had corked up in a pint bottle, and peace of mind could be sent down in gallons by the mail-coach."
But he also presents the other side, in a rather disconnected narrative that forms the second half of the book. He shows the dangers of becoming too complacent with opium, too careless of its power.
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 7, 2003, at 22:31:33
In reply to Re: just one work of caution about nausea, posted by bsj on December 6, 2003, at 14:25:08
> take empty bottles xxx.
>
> krazybirdlady> If male, the best place to hide things is xxx.
>
> stjames> I've been considering hiding the stuff in several different ways--xxx. I'll declare one bottle at customs.
>
> bsjThis site should not be used to facilitate any illegal activities:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#illegal
Thanks,
Bob
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Posted by krazybirdlady on December 8, 2003, at 12:55:18
In reply to Re: illegal activities » krazybirdlady » stjames » bsj, posted by Dr. Bob on December 7, 2003, at 22:31:33
so sorry...
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 8, 2003, at 13:02:49
In reply to Re: Update on the holiday, posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 18:15:30
> CONFESSIONS OF AN ENGLISH OPIUM-EATER:
>
> http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/socl/socialconcerns/ConfessionsofanEnglishOpium-Eater/toc.html
>
> De Quincy was a fascinating charater of the early 19th century. Despite the great pains it brought him, he never denounced opium, never became a crusader against it; for him, it was like dabbling with food of the gods--something so strong that mere mortals couldn't bear it. He begins with glowing passages like this:
>
> "Here was a panacea for all human woes; here was the secret of happiness, about which philosophers had disputed for so many ages, at once discovered: happiness might now be bought for a penny, and carried in the waistcoat pocket; portable ecstacies might be had corked up in a pint bottle, and peace of mind could be sent down in gallons by the mail-coach."
>
> But he also presents the other side, in a rather disconnected narrative that forms the second half of the book. He shows the dangers of becoming too complacent with opium, too careless of its power.have bookmarked it as it seems a highly interesting read. thank-you
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