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Posted by Simcha on September 14, 2003, at 20:42:53
Blessings all...
I was prescribed a cough syrup with codeine when I had bronchitis this past spring. I loved the stuff. I never had it before. It gave me a warm cozy feeling that helped me sleep. The gp gave me a big honkin' bottle of the stuff.
After the bronchitis I vowed not to use it for anything else but a cough. Well, that lasted for about a month. Occasionally, when I had a stressful day, I took the syrup. Now it's gone. I nursed the bottle for 5 months.
Then I discovered how to get dihydrocodeine (1.5 times as strong as codeine) on the web. I ordered it and some Valium. When it arrived I discovered that dihydrocodeine was far superior. It made me content and happy when I took it. I felt no withdrawal during the week when I did not take it.
Generally I'm able to use only on weekends. I have not had any dihydrocodeine though for about a month.
I've tossed around the idea of getting more. I'm reading on here that many people get terribly addicted to the stuff. I'm not feeling like I have to have more. I just like to use it occasionally. I find it far superior to any other drug I've ever tried (beyond my meds, of course.)
Well, this post may not be popular. I can't say that I'll never use this stuff again. I'm waiting for next month where I will have some money to see if I want to order more.
Blessings,
Simcha
Posted by galkeepinon on September 15, 2003, at 0:03:46
In reply to Codeine and Dihydrocodeine, posted by Simcha on September 14, 2003, at 20:42:53
Hi Simcha!
Hun, I'm worried about you now. By no means am I trying to be a mother here. I just want you to know that I hope you take care of yourself with this issue. I did the same thing with Vicodin and if I had some or got my hands on some, I would probably go back to taking it *once in a while* probably every day.
These feelings we get from these types of drugs are indeed a high in my opinion, and makes me wonder anyway why do we need psych meds for depression~hey I'll just take Vicodin or some codeine cough-syrup, and all is good.
I know it was posted here a few days back about *really* needing the stuff when you do and you have become immune to it because of this *self medicating* so it may not help when you do really need it. I know there are reasons for doing it, heck there were for me when I was abusing Vicodin. Tylenol 3 this past April.
About the online thing....I have never ordered these types of meds online before, but I came close. Please, please be careful. Post, talk, whatever you have to do to take care of YOU.
I know the feelings all to well that these drugs give us are outstanding (for some anyway) including myself, but I would hate to see you head down a bad road.
And, about your post being popular~~That makes no difference whatsoever. I saw it and wanted to reply to you. I hope that you can use this forum to talk about your feelings instead of thinking about going online again for this stuff.
I just care and blessings and (((hugs))) to you!!!!!!!
> Blessings all...
>
> I was prescribed a cough syrup with codeine when I had bronchitis this past spring. I loved the stuff. I never had it before. It gave me a warm cozy feeling that helped me sleep. The gp gave me a big honkin' bottle of the stuff.
>
> After the bronchitis I vowed not to use it for anything else but a cough. Well, that lasted for about a month. Occasionally, when I had a stressful day, I took the syrup. Now it's gone. I nursed the bottle for 5 months.
>
> Then I discovered how to get dihydrocodeine (1.5 times as strong as codeine) on the web. I ordered it and some Valium. When it arrived I discovered that dihydrocodeine was far superior. It made me content and happy when I took it. I felt no withdrawal during the week when I did not take it.
>
> Generally I'm able to use only on weekends. I have not had any dihydrocodeine though for about a month.
>
> I've tossed around the idea of getting more. I'm reading on here that many people get terribly addicted to the stuff. I'm not feeling like I have to have more. I just like to use it occasionally. I find it far superior to any other drug I've ever tried (beyond my meds, of course.)
>
> Well, this post may not be popular. I can't say that I'll never use this stuff again. I'm waiting for next month where I will have some money to see if I want to order more.
>
> Blessings,
> Simcha
Posted by Simcha on September 15, 2003, at 0:17:41
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine » Simcha, posted by galkeepinon on September 15, 2003, at 0:03:46
Galkeepinon,
Thanks for your post.
I recognize that I have an addictive personality. I'm an addict. I am addicted to food, sex, and nicotine. I posted this here to get more information on what I was doing and to come clean. Opiates are not my first drug of choice. Sex actually is my first drug of choice.
I have not been doing sex so drugs seem attractive now. I have a therapist who I can talk to about the sex stuff. I have not brought up this side of myself to him. I do know that I need to be very careful with opiates. I have none in the house now and that is a good thing.
Maybe in the future I will request that this doctor not give me any narcotics. It is a great feeling. I do know that if I were terminal and in pain I would take the opiates.
I'm physically very healthy and there is no real reason for me to use opiates other than that they make me feel good. You are probably right that I should not experiment anymore with opiates. I've read here how people get bitten by the opiate snake. Once bitten, it's hard to resist. I'd have to say that right now I have no problem really staying away. It might be wise to leave it at that. I can see how I could become a regular user. The high is just too good.
Well, thanks for the post and I'll keep reading here for more information on this. I will continue to get support from all of you around this. I'll let you all know what I'm up to.
Blessings,
Simcha
Posted by shar on September 15, 2003, at 0:21:35
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine » Simcha, posted by galkeepinon on September 15, 2003, at 0:03:46
> About the online thing....I have never ordered these types of meds online before, but I came close. Please, please be careful. Post, talk, whatever you have to do to take care of YOU.
.........There are some groups that monitor online pharmacies, online consultations, telephone consultations, and overseas pharmacies that one can join to get good (or at least up-to-date) information. Presumably not run by, tho' probably monitored by, the DEA.
I am a member of two, and compare the pharmacies they recommend using and staying away from. Of course, I'm not saying I've ever ordered anything online........
But it can be a helpful way to not get ripped off.
Shar
Posted by galkeepinon on September 15, 2003, at 1:07:33
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine » galkeepinon, posted by Simcha on September 15, 2003, at 0:17:41
OK~thanks for sharing this info:-)
I understand. I'm addicted to food and smokes.
Glad to hear that you have no opiates in the house~I don't either and yep~that's a GOOD thing.
I did request to my PCP not to give me narcs~she noted it in my chart, but we all know we can and will find them if we want. So it is with me anyway.............
I think I did get bit by the opiate snake! no doubt! One day at a time.
Take care!
> Galkeepinon,
>
> Thanks for your post.
>
> I recognize that I have an addictive personality. I'm an addict. I am addicted to food, sex, and nicotine. I posted this here to get more information on what I was doing and to come clean. Opiates are not my first drug of choice. Sex actually is my first drug of choice.
>
> I have not been doing sex so drugs seem attractive now. I have a therapist who I can talk to about the sex stuff. I have not brought up this side of myself to him. I do know that I need to be very careful with opiates. I have none in the house now and that is a good thing.
>
> Maybe in the future I will request that this doctor not give me any narcotics. It is a great feeling. I do know that if I were terminal and in pain I would take the opiates.
>
> I'm physically very healthy and there is no real reason for me to use opiates other than that they make me feel good. You are probably right that I should not experiment anymore with opiates. I've read here how people get bitten by the opiate snake. Once bitten, it's hard to resist. I'd have to say that right now I have no problem really staying away. It might be wise to leave it at that. I can see how I could become a regular user. The high is just too good.
>
> Well, thanks for the post and I'll keep reading here for more information on this. I will continue to get support from all of you around this. I'll let you all know what I'm up to.
>
> Blessings,
> Simcha
Posted by Simcha on September 15, 2003, at 20:30:39
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine, posted by shar on September 15, 2003, at 0:21:35
Shar,
I'm a member of such a group. Yes, I'm a careful consumer. I'm careful when I pick anything that I buy. The trouble is that I can get carried away with anything that makes me feel good. If it makes me feel good certainly 100 times the amount would make me feel even better. This is the way it was with sex, food, and nicotine. I don't want to end up this way with opiates.
Thanks for your advice,
Simcha> .........There are some groups that monitor online pharmacies, online consultations, telephone consultations, and overseas pharmacies that one can join to get good (or at least up-to-date) information. Presumably not run by, tho' probably monitored by, the DEA.
>
> I am a member of two, and compare the pharmacies they recommend using and staying away from. Of course, I'm not saying I've ever ordered anything online........
>
> But it can be a helpful way to not get ripped off.
>
> Shar
Posted by stjames on September 16, 2003, at 18:00:47
In reply to Codeine and Dihydrocodeine, posted by Simcha on September 14, 2003, at 20:42:53
> Then I discovered how to get dihydrocodeine (1.5 times as strong as codeine) on the web.
If you do not have a script, as this is a scheduled med you could be looking a legal issues.
Posted by Simcha on September 16, 2003, at 19:20:57
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine, posted by stjames on September 16, 2003, at 18:00:47
St. James,
Yeah, I've thought about that. That's another reason not to order it again.
> > Then I discovered how to get dihydrocodeine (1.5 times as strong as codeine) on the web.
>
> If you do not have a script, as this is a scheduled med you could be looking a legal issues.
Posted by Caleb462 on September 18, 2003, at 22:31:30
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine » Simcha, posted by galkeepinon on September 15, 2003, at 0:03:46
I was also fine using opiates/opioids only on weekends for quite a while... but in the last 3 months, the longest I've gone without an opioid in my system is one measly week.. In the last couple of weeks... the longest I've gone is about 1 day. I'm by no means physically addicted, but psychologically, I suppose I am. Make no mistake, these drugs ARE addictive. They feel wonderful, of course - and that's why so many folks get hooked. Some people are able to use occasionaly, yes... but once you get a liking for the stuff.. well, it can be quite easy to fall into addiction. Nobody plans to be addicted, most current or former addicts started off as occasional users, and believed they had everything in control - but one morning they wake up and find themselves in withdrawl.
Posted by Simcha on September 19, 2003, at 18:41:17
In reply to Re: Codeine and Dihydrocodeine, posted by Caleb462 on September 18, 2003, at 22:31:30
Caleb,
Thanks so much for your post. This is why I'm not ordering more one day at a time. I have several programs that I attend and I have a great therapist. I get support and I know that drugs are not the way to go. Thanks for having the courage to share your story.
> I was also fine using opiates/opioids only on weekends for quite a while... but in the last 3 months, the longest I've gone without an opioid in my system is one measly week.. In the last couple of weeks... the longest I've gone is about 1 day. I'm by no means physically addicted, but psychologically, I suppose I am. Make no mistake, these drugs ARE addictive. They feel wonderful, of course - and that's why so many folks get hooked. Some people are able to use occasionaly, yes... but once you get a liking for the stuff.. well, it can be quite easy to fall into addiction. Nobody plans to be addicted, most current or former addicts started off as occasional users, and believed they had everything in control - but one morning they wake up and find themselves in withdrawl.
Posted by platinumbride on October 1, 2003, at 9:37:50
In reply to Codeine and Dihydrocodeine, posted by Simcha on September 14, 2003, at 20:42:53
Hi Simch,
Now THAT is kinda what I meant when I posted about the neurontin and the klonopin :(
But you seem to have it more under control.
PlatinumBride
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