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Posted by Horse on May 26, 2015, at 20:10:35
In reply to Re: not doing so well, posted by Lamdage22 on May 26, 2015, at 13:37:30
I'm curious why you think having mental illness is worse in US than DE. I mean, I think I agree that the U.S. healthcare ststem fails the average citizen....
Posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 4:13:46
In reply to Lou's warning-wholetruth » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2015, at 7:57:52
Still practicing medicine, Lou?
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 27, 2015, at 6:38:45
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » Lou Pilder, posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 4:13:46
> Still practicing medicine, Lou?
F,
What you wrote about me here could induce hostile and disagreeable feelings and opinions about me and decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held. For to post anything that could lead readers to think that I am being charged by you of practicing medicine, is a false charge against me and I do not want to be blamed or stigmatized as a result of what you have posted about me with impunity here. And worse, since I am trying to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, a subset of readers could be led to their deaths IMHO by having the respect ,regard and confidence in which I am held decreased by what you have posted about me here in that they could disregard the warning that I have given here that your post about me is linked to. This warning could save lives IMHHHHO, for what is contained in the warning are facts, facts that could mark the difference IMHO between one being a live person or a corpse.
You see, I am abiding by the prohibitions here directed to me by Mr. Hsiung. Prohibitions that IMHO stop me from saving lives and stop me from preventing life-ruining conditions and addictions, stop me from showing the historical relationship between psychiatry and mass-murder, stop me from presenting the Jewish perspective as revealed to me which is against the Jew, against Judaism, which fits the definition of what anti-Semitism entails.
You can post here about me with impunity, but the blood of those that have been killed by the drugs here or induced the person to kill themselves, will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by Toph on May 27, 2015, at 9:40:51
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » Lou Pilder, posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 4:13:46
It has been written that the poster is a woman who likes to ride beasts wearing pointed leather footwear. She associates with outlaw artists who promote natural herbs. She has been known to imbibe of distilled spirits that can lead to addiction and suicide. She exudes country cool as it has been revealed to her.
Posted by Phil on May 27, 2015, at 9:59:48
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » fayeroe, posted by Toph on May 27, 2015, at 9:40:51
And she's very cool.
Posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 14:32:10
In reply to Lou's reply-thairblud » fayeroe, posted by Lou Pilder on May 27, 2015, at 6:38:45
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 27, 2015, at 14:36:04
In reply to Re: not doing so well, posted by Horse on May 26, 2015, at 20:10:35
> I'm curious why you think having mental illness is worse in US than DE. I mean, I think I agree that the U.S. healthcare ststem fails the average citizen....
Well. We have institutions here for rehabilitation (from mental illness) that "americans dream of". Thats actually what american psychiatrists said when they visited.
And its all paid for.
You get money monthly. You can go to rehabilitation. You can get assistance for living all at the expense of the state or the health insurance.
If you dont have money, you dont have to pay.
I dont think that america will give you this much support.
Posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 14:40:01
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » fayeroe, posted by Toph on May 27, 2015, at 9:40:51
"People are saying that time will take care of people like me
That I'm livin' too fast and they say I can't last too much longer
But little they see that their thoughts of me is my saviour
And little they know that the beat oughta go just a little faster
So pick up the tempo just a little and take it on home
The singer ain't singin' and the drummer's been draggin' too long
Time will take care of itself so just leave time alone
And pick up the tempo just a little and take it on home"
WNHow are you? Miss you.
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 27, 2015, at 14:44:29
In reply to Re: not doing so well, posted by Lamdage22 on May 27, 2015, at 14:36:04
These rehabilitation places are not like hospital... at all.
You can actually lead a pretty normal life in there.
I have seen my fellow patients when i was in the US.
I didnt have the impression that they had a whole lot of social support. They try to compensate with more meds which doesnt work!
Posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 14:45:31
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » fayeroe, posted by Toph on May 27, 2015, at 9:40:51
Message "Lou's warning-the whole truth" is a song for you. I forgot the procedure. I didn't put your name in subject line.
Posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 15:14:47
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » Toph, posted by Phil on May 27, 2015, at 9:59:48
So are you.....
Posted by 10derheart on May 27, 2015, at 23:49:33
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth » fayeroe, posted by Toph on May 27, 2015, at 9:40:51
Posted by 10derheart on May 27, 2015, at 23:54:38
In reply to Face Palm.. (nm), posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 14:32:10
Hi there, P. Hope you are well - or even "well enough" does it some days...at least for me.
Welcome to the dead zone.
Removeth thy palm from thy face. It is not worth it. Some things change, and some things never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever change, and are the same.
As you already observed.
Posted by alexandra_k on May 28, 2015, at 2:20:23
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » fayeroe, posted by 10derheart on May 27, 2015, at 23:54:38
have things changed for anyone since obamba care?
i'm doing this paper in health systems at the moment... and having a very hard time of things...
i sort of think that people cherry pick their data to push whatever political agenda they've already decided upon...
they redefine health in various ways (i think we define it broadly perhaps to conceal the fact that we don't actually have a traditional health system (with, you know, doctors and stuff) at all...)
and they get all hung up on 'intermediate performance measures' of 'efficiency' and 'quality' and stuff... that seem very far removed from anything of any actual significance.
i suspect it is 'i can show you how to save several million dollars and improve quality if you give me a mere one million all to myself...' and then they proceed to improve quality by redefining it such that we now have some ahahahahaha laughing to the bank. spending more money on people redefining things here and there than we are spending on the front line of healthcare (we have 'shown' that there isn't benefit to paying them - but there is benefit to your paying us to redefine quality such that giving us money helps it!)
and i'm just... dubious. really.so...
my personal experience... was that i got best health care in aussie. but took me a while to get there... and i also feel i was pretty lucky to find the particular clinician i did. but then, aspects of the system there made it possible for me to see him (the public health system contributed towards him seeing me and he contributed some by lowering the standard copay significantly).
the US... i don't suppose i was there long enough...?? but things seemed okay... but i was in north carolina... and you can't generalise too much between states... similarly for aussie, i think...
here...
well... sucks to be poor ANYWHERE i think. just... sucks to be poor.
being a student is a buffer on being poor. i think. takes out the significant majority of the environmental sting. for me, anyway. i suppose i am lucky.
but then...
i did get dx with autistic spectrum here... and that seems to fit. but then... it seems to fit me here, if that makes sense. perhaps i'd be different in a different environment... i think things have been better for me lately... i got good compression gear from disability. i got disability. i have a great GP now (who isn't keen to medicate me and who isn't keen to... freak out when i freak out (if that makes sense)... and a nurse who i click with to have catch up coffee with which helps me a great deal, actually... and ACC has finally come through on my physical injuries... sort of... we will see...
i might be getting a foot reconstruction. will involve about 4 joints needing to be realigned or something... i want to look into it more before anythhing major is done... but the metal will be coming out. quite a lot of it.. i will look into bone plugs and make sure i ask about that because i think the bone has healed up by pulling away from the metal (apparently the screw that was meant to fuse hasn't successfully done that at all)... so.... anyway... not sure how much i trust the health system over here (or anywhere). i don't suppose it is wise to trust it at all.
Posted by fayeroe on May 29, 2015, at 0:59:04
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » fayeroe, posted by 10derheart on May 27, 2015, at 23:54:38
> Hi there, P. Hope you are well - or even "well enough" does it some days...at least for me.
>
> Welcome to the dead zone.
>
> Removeth thy palm from thy face. It is not worth it. Some things change, and some things never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever change, and are the same. And only two people can change it. It would never get everyone back but at least the people here could have relief and joy.
>
> As you already observed.You really, really made me smile and then it turned into a sad smile. So much was here and now it's gone.
It could be changed, but we both know it has as much chance as a snowball in hell. I miss it. P
Posted by Horse on June 2, 2015, at 17:30:29
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » 10derheart, posted by fayeroe on May 29, 2015, at 0:59:04
Yeah, sad smile. I miss the good times here, too.
Posted by fayeroe on June 21, 2015, at 14:35:07
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » fayeroe, posted by 10derheart on May 27, 2015, at 23:54:38
> Hi there, P. Hope you are well - or even "well enough" does it some days...at least for me.
>
> Welcome to the dead zone.
>
> Removeth thy palm from thy face. It is not worth it. Some things change, and some things never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever change, and are the same.
>
> As you already observed.It is so sad that the inevitable has happened. I really miss you guys.
PB was a safe place at one time, as you know.
Posted by fayeroe on June 21, 2015, at 14:40:49
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » fayeroe, posted by Horse on June 2, 2015, at 17:30:29
We had some really good times. We bonded and shared our laugh and our miseries.
My biggest regret is newcomers have to be put off by the nonsense that has been allowed to consume the site. I saw it coming but didn't think it would be this bad.
Posted by fayeroe on June 21, 2015, at 14:43:07
In reply to Re: Face Palm.., posted by alexandra_k on May 28, 2015, at 2:20:23
It is good to see you and I hope your health issues are taken care of.
Posted by Toph on June 22, 2015, at 8:53:19
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-the whole truth, posted by fayeroe on May 27, 2015, at 14:40:01
>
> How are you? Miss you.
>Not so great Pat. Retirement hasn't been all that it is cracked up to be. I miss the identity and stimulation of work. Not that I could have tolerated another case assignment. I am drinking more than I should which makes me crabbier than my normally crabby self. I have what is probably age or medication-related memory loss which makes me afraid to seek out some sort of employment. On a more positive note, I have enjoyed tutoring reading to local 3rd graders. And I just got back from Nebraska where I helped my pregnant daughter and her husband fix up their new house. I miss the days of coming home from a hard day's work and having a cocktail with my cyber friends. Hope all is well with you.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 23, 2015, at 6:01:54
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » Horse, posted by fayeroe on June 21, 2015, at 14:40:49
> We had some really good times. We bonded and shared our laugh and our miseries.
>
> My biggest regret is newcomers have to be put off by the nonsense that has been allowed to consume the site. I saw it coming but didn't think it would be this bad.Friends,
Be not deceived. For Mr. Hsiung is allowing what is posted here that I am responding to, to be considered by him to be supportive, for Mr. Hsiung states that being supportive takes precedence here and what is not acted on by him and his deputies of record is not against his rules. But what is contained here that I am responding to is part of the manifesto of hate. Hate so great that you could be deceived to think that a psychiatrist is fomenting the passions of hatred so that his community will be improved, for he states that whatever he does, or doesn't do, will be good in his thinking for his community as a whole.
It does not take a mastermind to think that I could be the subject person in the post that I am responding to. And what is posted could arouse hatred toward me and stigmatize me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held to induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me. And worse, the harm that could come to me from the hate being seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung, could be transferred to others by readers here that could use others as targets for hate including committing mass-murder. This is because it is a powerful influence for vulnerable readers to see that a psychiatrist is allowing hate to be seen as supportive to those that are drugged with mind-altering chemicals. And what could it profit Mr. Hsiung for hate to be seen as supportive by him? The answer, my friends, is that the embers of the flames of hate from here could land to start a forest fire of hate all over the world where the internet carries the perpetual flame of hate from here as seen by hate being allowed to be seen as supportive here. But it is much worse than that. For the poster writes,[...nonsense that has been allowed to consume the site...]. By not specifying what the nonsense is, readers could think that what I post is the nonsense. And the poster combines with that,[...My biggest regret is newcomers have to be put off by the nonsense that consumes the site...]. This could be my attempt here to stop Mr. Hsiung and any deputy of record form allowing hatred toward the Jews and anti-Semitic propaganda to be allowed to be seen as supportive by him. And to attempt to have him delete the swastika posted by him here. For the symbols of hatred toward the Jews could be carried to places where other symbols of racial hatred are allowed to be displayed. Then the transfer of hatred toward the Jews as could be seen here could have others that are targets of hate where symbols of racial hatred are displayed be victims of mass-murder. This is what could happen to vulnerable readers here, you could be influenced by a psychiatrist and his posters being allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda with impunity and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for his community as a whole. And if it could be good for his community as a whole to fly the swastika by him here, vulnerable readers could think that in real world life, the hatred of the symbols could be good for their community that they reside in also.
Mothers, don't let your children grow up to be hate-mongers. Take this hate and shove it and it won't work here anymore.
Lou
Posted by SLS on June 23, 2015, at 7:55:40
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » Horse, posted by fayeroe on June 21, 2015, at 14:40:49
> We had some really good times. We bonded and shared our laugh and our miseries.
>
> My biggest regret is newcomers have to be put off by the nonsense that has been allowed to consume the site. I saw it coming but didn't think it would be this bad.I'm sad, but accepting.
- Scott
Posted by alexandra_k on June 25, 2015, at 22:11:03
In reply to Re: Face Palm.. » alexandra_k, posted by fayeroe on June 21, 2015, at 14:43:07
> It is good to see you and I hope your health issues are taken care of.
Hi. Good to see you, too. I am mostly doing okay. Yeah.
HOw are you?
Posted by alexandra_k on June 25, 2015, at 22:11:55
In reply to Lou's warning-jnypaychk » fayeroe, posted by Lou Pilder on June 23, 2015, at 6:01:54
>Take this hate and shove it and it won't work here anymore.
:-)
Posted by pontormo on October 7, 2015, at 13:52:30
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-jnypaychk » Lou Pilder, posted by alexandra_k on June 25, 2015, at 22:11:55
Nothing like an abrupt shift in rhetoric to bring a smile to one's face-- all the abstraction in the world doesn't stand up to a few simple words--
This is the end of the thread.
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