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Posted by floatingbridge on June 3, 2011, at 9:23:25
I think I need a babble break. I write too much. I try too hard. I have a lot of work to do. Maybe I'll have a good vacation. That's possible. I'm going to try being quiet. My babblemail is still on. I might write to threads I'm still subscribed to, but most likely will not check the board.
To everyone that is also trying--I will be
remembering you.You all be well.
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Posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2011, at 11:01:04
In reply to hey, posted by floatingbridge on June 3, 2011, at 9:23:25
FB hey did you know you truly are a loved person on babble? Tell about the vacation plans for when there and how long and if your Son is looking forward to it. Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 0:06:55
In reply to Re: hey » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2011, at 11:01:04
Thanks for the kind words, Phillipa. I guess I'll just scale back and avoid extremes. Yesterday and today were really rough.
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Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 0:19:52
In reply to Re: hey » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 0:06:55
Today also? Hawaii tomorrow still? Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 0:33:06
In reply to Re: hey » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 0:19:52
Sunday. I've been in bed just about all day, getting up to feed my kid and when he needed me. Wish me big luck. I haven't flown for years.
Tomorrow is packing. Fatigue is one way to shed alot of perfectionist baggage.
However, my husband is still a devote perfectionist....
Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 0:49:07
In reply to Re: hey » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 0:33:06
Just babbled you!!!! Love Phillipa
Posted by sigismund on June 4, 2011, at 1:36:03
In reply to Re: hey » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 0:33:06
Gabapentin for airrports?
You bloody well need something.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 2:21:14
In reply to Re: hey, posted by sigismund on June 4, 2011, at 1:36:03
sigi, I was just switched to Valium. Getting the switch was an ordeal that I take a great part of the responsibility for.
However, I've taken my limit, 15mg. I'm awake. As a matter of fact, I'm anxious.
I am a little scared. I don't have anything else, and I panic at night.
It's just after twelve here. Mind you, I am writing on a phone, not exactly sleep hygiene. The reason I have my phone is that I almost called his emergency number. At this hour. I have never done such a thing. The emsam patch has been off.
This has to be alright, right?
I have enough to take more. He was that kind. But I follow his instructions. But if I get desperate....
Maybe if I get through tonight, I can call his number in the morning. I really dislike this.
O.K. I'm signing off.
Posted by sigismund on June 4, 2011, at 10:54:37
In reply to Re: hey » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 2:21:14
Well it can't be night *now*, because it is 1.30am here.
Valium has a stable plateau, unlike Xanax, so it is good for reducing insofar as anything is. But it's not great for sleep.
I never have trouble GETTING to sleep. I was asleep by 8pm, straight after dinner. What was really great was I slept 4 hours straight, rather than 2. It may have been the trytophan I took just before dinner that gave me such a long sleep.
When I wake I look at the clock......the later it is, the better. But really, I feel really revved up. So I take some TCM herbs, and then some zizyphus in a different form, and then some graviola. I'm not taking more benzos and it is too late for gabapentin and I don't want to take it anyway. I am going to ask my shrink for some temazepam for the early hours, just 10mg.
So that's how I deal with it, or don't.
Since you have a kid, you need to be in passable shape in the morning. Temazepam is not a bad drug. I can understand your doc wanting to have just one benzo.....but Valium is not great for sleep. We have temazepam in 10mg tabs. That's not much and would not really jack up my or your habit. You could postpone any morning benzo after getting some sleep the night before.
The options are just so poor. It's either benzos or something inhumane. I couldn't bear Remeron/mirtazepine. Amitriptylline(sp?)I took once in a 25mg dose. Never tried Seroquel. Trazodone we don't have. I could order it. Wouldn't mind a spot of priapism, but the reviews on askapatient are not encouraging. Zyprexa? (Thorazine?) This is a chronic problem. I dunno.
(On the subject of Thorazine, Lou Reed was given ECT to get rid of homosexual impulses. This explains the lines 'All of the drugs that we took, it really was lots of fun, but when they shoot me up with Thorazine and crystal smoke, you talk like the son of a gun'. Or something like that. Roy Harper was given ECT as a young man too. Bloody western paradigm.)
In 1974 I mentioned to my shrink (some things never change) that I had an exam coming up and wouldn't sleep. He gave me 2 Mandrax (Quaaludes) to take the night before. I took them and could hardly make it to bed. They were so much better. Better than bloody Valium for sleep, anyway
Posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 12:28:49
In reply to Re: hey » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on June 4, 2011, at 10:54:37
It's 10:10 and I made it through another night. I read a bit more, put headphones on and listened to the Jackie Gleason orchestra.
My pdoc is really stunned right now. The Valium is just stop gap because xanax just cr*pp*d out. Hopefully we'll be working better together. He does not like to send me off with new meds for
more than a week.I think, maybe, he's reassessing my condition as primarily an anxiety
disorder, though I originally presented as brilliantly depressed and bpnos. (My treatment hasn't really caught up with my signature dx.)When I was a kid, we would have these discussions about whether we would rather be shot, stabbed, hung. (I held out for freezing. Second best, drowning.) I ask my self seriously anxiety or depression? Which would be preferable. Both at the same time is like death.
Once in a seminar, seriously, there was a big discussion over a poem "in cold hell/in thicket." The topic whirled off beyond the professor's control. Which hell would be worse? I said to the professor, would you rather be shot, stabbed or hung? He laughed and let the seminar have it's way awhile longer.
Posted by sigismund on June 4, 2011, at 14:35:58
In reply to Re: hey, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 12:28:49
>would you rather be shot, stabbed or hung?
I'd rather be shot than be tazered, as long as the shot didn't hit any bone I guess.
I think the word 'depression' is out of control. My mother was depressed so they said. It looked to me like she was tormented, or agitated or distressed. Very much so. So they said (and this is where things spill out of control) 'Well, that is a sign of the depression'. I'd need to be a philosopher to say what is wrong with that. Anyway, the drugs don't work most of the time, so I suppose you can say....nothing much works, best to practice self reliance and good habits at least. Maybe that is why some people cheer up when they get the diagnosis for cancer? Apart from the narcotics, I mean. 'Well, that is a sign of life' and the cancer looks like it will take care of that.
Try to approach the airport with the greatest detachment.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 14:58:08
In reply to Re: hey, posted by sigismund on June 4, 2011, at 14:35:58
> >would you rather be shot, stabbed or hung?
>
> I'd rather be shot than be tazered, as long as the shot didn't hit any bone I guess.
>Tazers weren't among the options then. A good deal of creative thought has gone
into weaponry since then.> I think the word 'depression' is out of control. My mother was depressed so they said. It looked to me like she was tormented, or agitated or distressed. Very much so. So they said (and this is where things spill out of control) 'Well,
that is a sign of the depression'. I'd need to be a philosopher to say what is wrong
with that. Anyway, the drugs don't work most of the time, so I suppose you can say....nothing much works, best to practice self reliance and good habits at
least.Yes. The music hehelped. My husband is going to help make our livingroom more comfortable and 'safe' for me at night. I am sorry about your mum.
>Maybe that is why some people cheer
up when they get the diagnosis for cancer? Apart from the narcotics, I mean. 'Well, that is a sign of life' and the cancer looks like it will take care of that.
>
Oh dear. I don't know why, but that made me laugh. Alot.> Try to approach the airport with the greatest detachment.
Thank you.
Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 19:45:15
In reply to Re: hey » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 14:58:08
FB all packed? It's not the flying it will be fine. It's the leaving of the comfort zone. Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 20:11:19
In reply to Re: hey » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 19:45:15
Sigh. I guess you know.
Packing right now. Just plopped down on pile of possible clothes. I'm multi-tasking because I'm repacking my closet that I tore apart some weeks ago.
Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 21:36:52
In reply to Re: hey » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 4, 2011, at 20:11:19
That sounds like maybe some energy, could be looking forward to trip now? Do you have to get up early? Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 5, 2011, at 0:16:40
In reply to Re: hey » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2011, at 21:36:52
Gawd. We leave the house at 5:30 a.m. I'm not thinking about it. I'm packed. I get dressed. We get a ride to the airport.
It will be surreal. That's o.k. i wake early these days anyways.
Remind me that I wrote this: I'm excited and it will be fun.
Aloha!
(You might imagine how sheepish I feel for the drama. Sorry. Thanks for hanging in there with me.)
Posted by Phillipa on June 5, 2011, at 19:44:32
In reply to Re: hey » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 5, 2011, at 0:16:40
And you made it and looks like a success to me. Enjoy!!! Phillipa
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