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Posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
From a guy that enjoys 20 hour naps, I didn't sleep a wink last night..till 130 today. Maybe 10 hours this week.When I woke up 45 min. ago, I had no idea where I was, who I was...nothing.
I've decided this form of mania is like very clean, pure cocaine.
Not all wired
You just ain't tired.Bipolar is wicked. : )
That's the news from the hottest place this side of death valley.
Posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2009, at 19:36:38
In reply to no sleep, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
Sleep is on it's way. Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on July 31, 2009, at 20:23:51
In reply to no sleep, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
Must be weird to go without sleep for so long. I get like that very rarely, usually when I am highly anxious, but never for as long as you have Phil. That is crazy making, quite literally I'm afraid!
I hope you get some rest soon.
Posted by Sigismund on July 31, 2009, at 21:39:10
In reply to no sleep, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
>I've decided this form of mania is like very clean, pure cocaine.
You probably need your sleep, so I shouldn't be envious, although it comes so easily to me and it's one of the things I do well, apart from run myself down.
The apartments downtown are selling for 2 million each. I'd love to go down to the open day and feel easily superior to everyone else and contemptuous of the decor. I'll have a go, nevertheless.
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 21:40:24
In reply to Re: no sleep, posted by Deneb on July 31, 2009, at 20:23:51
Me too! In fact, I'm going to tell the unicorns and gypsies in my kitchen they have to leave soon..I need sleep.
I'm going to take 2 Benadryl soon. Two of those will usually put me out.
Why I didn't think of that last night is a mystery.
I think I was just wrapped up doing whatever.Just like with snorting meth 30 years ago, the clock seems like it's running 5X too fast. Thus meth freaks staying up for days. Awful drug.
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 21:53:05
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Sigismund on July 31, 2009, at 21:39:10
I used to sleep weeks away. I would wake up in the morning drink 3 cups of coffee while playing on the computer. When I finished my coffee, I'd go back to bed and sleep till about one. I mean I still do that all the time.
It has been so long I can't remember when I stayed up all night and even then, rarely did it.
That's what is so bizarre about this disorder. I thought it was controlled then wham, virtually no sleep for a week???? And my body isn't wired but I can write all night on this forum and others.
It makes me think, what's around the bend?
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 1, 2009, at 0:46:09
In reply to no sleep, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
Phil...
You should SERIOUSLY consider a 5 or so mg dose of Haldol 2-3x daily for a few weeks. Maybe even 25-50 mg of Largactil...majority of dose at bedtime. (No, NOT Lamictal..lol) These states aren't good at all, to be in.
Best,
Jay
Posted by Phil on August 1, 2009, at 2:23:50
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 1, 2009, at 0:46:09
Thanks Jay..Don't know why I've waited but will call on call pdoc tomorrow. It's 220 and I'm still going. Totally f#cked.
I haven't had this before and all I can think is what else this disease will have in store for me.
Posted by Dinah on August 1, 2009, at 5:34:20
In reply to Re: no sleep » Sigismund, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 21:53:05
It sounds more like the Pristiq.
Wellbutrin and Effexor were like poison to me. I know they help a lot of people, but they really were very bad for me. Now, I refuse any meds that describe themselves as acting on NE.
But once I was off and my system shook it off, I went back to what passes for normal for me.
Posted by Phil on August 1, 2009, at 6:57:35
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Dinah on August 1, 2009, at 5:34:20
I've been off Pristiq for around a week. There's no doubt. I'm full blown manic right now. I took one of those 7 question tests. If you had 3 you were manic. I had 6!!!
There are other reasons I know but I have things to do, not now, right now. lol
Posted by Dinah on August 1, 2009, at 9:19:49
In reply to Re: I wish you were right » Dinah, posted by Phil on August 1, 2009, at 6:57:35
Well, in my case, the Wellbutrin and Effexor triggered hypomania. Badly. Sleep deprivation does a milder version.
But off it, I don't have the experience.
It didn't stop as soon as I stopped the meds.
Is there anything your pdoc can give you to stop this episode?
Posted by Kath on August 1, 2009, at 11:40:18
In reply to no sleep, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
Hi Phil - this mite seem like a stupid idea - way too simplistic.
When I can't sleep, I make a mug of warm milk & honey & take a couple of calcium/magnesium pills with it.
It seems to work, but who knows, maybe it's because I usually lie there for a couple of hours before I get the gumption to get out of bed to make the warm milk! Maybe by then I'm ready to go to sleep. But seriously, it seems to work.
luv, Kath
Posted by Phil on August 1, 2009, at 13:01:31
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Kath on August 1, 2009, at 11:40:18
Kath, When one full blown manic, anything like that if trying to stop a locomotive with a fly swatter.
Not a bad idea to supplement drug but mania calls for big guns RIGHT NOW. : }
Posted by Phil on August 1, 2009, at 13:05:12
In reply to Re: I wish you were right » Phil, posted by Dinah on August 1, 2009, at 9:19:49
Switched meds around dropped lexapro, up lithium divided dose am pm.
Added 15mg Zyprexa. 5am 10 pm. It will knock out a charging elephant RIGHT NOW.
Posted by Justherself54 on August 1, 2009, at 15:50:13
In reply to no sleep, posted by Phil on July 31, 2009, at 17:07:09
>>Not all wired
>>You just ain't tired.Great saying! So true when you're in a mania. I'm glad you're knocking yourself out. Disturbed sleep is the first sign for me that things are going to go haywire.
Posted by Phillipa on August 1, 2009, at 20:16:28
In reply to Re: no sleep, posted by Justherself54 on August 1, 2009, at 15:50:13
Phil if I was working and your nurse right now you'd have an IM of ativan and some IM haldol. Even that would take a few days to work. Glad you took the zyprexa though. Good luck. Love Phillipa ps wellbutrin sent me to the hospital the pdoc thought I was hypomanic.
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 0:49:29
In reply to Re: no sleep, posted by Justherself54 on August 1, 2009, at 15:50:13
Zyprexa will b*tch slap mania now.
15mg.
Must go back to work Monday after 1.75 months unpaid psych leave.
Not sure I'll be awake by Monday.
Posted by Phillipa on August 2, 2009, at 0:53:20
In reply to Re: no sleep » Justherself54, posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 0:49:29
Phil so you slept that so great!!!!! Night that zyprexa did the trick. Phillipa
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 7:13:18
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Phillipa on August 2, 2009, at 0:53:20
10mg of that stuff and one better be close to their bed.
I sleep upstairs her and I could barely make it up.
Posted by Kath on August 2, 2009, at 10:22:24
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phillipa, posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 7:13:18
Mania sounds totally exhausting!!!
Glad you got the sledgehammer that you needed.
:-)hugs, Kath
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 16:30:07
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Kath on August 2, 2009, at 10:22:24
Kath
What's so weird is it's 'not' exhausting'. At least while you're in it.
Even though I have Zyprexa now I'm still not all that tired.
I wish I had a switch to turn it on and off. I just wouldn't turn it on for more than one day.
Posted by Phillipa on August 2, 2009, at 18:57:47
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phillipa, posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 7:13:18
Phil wow that zyprexa sure must be strong. Wasn't out when I worked. Wonder what they now use in the hospital? I'm curious though why do a lot of manics refuse to take meds to come down? I know my deceased Father in law loved it. Would last about two weeks then he crashed and sat staring in a chair all day. I just have a hard time trying to feel how it feels. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 21:27:24
In reply to Re: no sleep » Phil, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 1, 2009, at 0:46:09
You were extremely helpful. I don't know if I'd have called my doc if not for your post.
Thank you!!
p
Posted by Justherself54 on August 3, 2009, at 0:02:36
In reply to Re: no sleep » Jay_Bravest_Face, posted by Phil on August 2, 2009, at 21:27:24
I'd love to be able to rock myself to sleep, except I can't find big enough rocks.
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